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And the European argument is null and void. The strongest the league, the less likely of teams from that league doing well in the European. Isn't that obvious such as 1+1=2?

You must be joking right?

The best leagues in the world must be from Ukrain, Portugal, Russia...those leagues are so strong that the teams can't even reach UCL semi-finals. You do know one thing or two about null and void argument.

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You must be joking right?

The bets leagues in the world must be from Ukrain, Portugal, Russia...those leagues are so strong that the teams can't even reach UCL semi-finals. You do know one thing or two about null and void argument.

I think she was referring strictly to the best five leagues in Europe.

The chances for Chelsea to get United/City/Arsenal/Liverpool/Spurs in between a Champions League tie are bigger than Madrid to draw Barcelona or Atletico.

You can also have something like Arsenal on Saturday, Borussia on Wednesday, United on Saturday and Borussia on Tuesday. While Madrid will never get such fixtures. Spanish federation and other leagues also allow their teams to postpone games, a thing that the FA never does. They only allow you to move the game by a day, at the very best.

So yes, there is a bigger chance for other leagues to have more teams in the final stages of the European competitions given their level of competitiveness and schedule.

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There is a difference between saying the EPL clubs are the strongest in the world, and saying the EPL, as a league, is the strongest.

If you look at the Spanish league (with the notable exception this year), it's a two horse race. This is not a strong league, this is a weak league with two strong teams,

What I mean by this is, put our league's two strongest sides (City and Chelsea) against La Liga's (Real Madrid and Barcelona) and we certainly wouldn't have a chance. But put our third strongest side (Liverpool) against theirs, then our fourth strongest (Arsenal, M. United, Tottenham, Everton), against theirs, etc. etc. and eventually you will reach the conclusion that, as a league, the EPL is much much stronger.

Well, I'm not sure top 5 PLl clubs from last season are that superior when compared to La Liga ones. Is Chelsea better than Real Madrid? Is Liverpool better than Barcelona? (Suarez left one and joined the other one for a reason). Perhaps Arsenal is better than Sevilla, Spurs better than Valencia, but form me Internazionale and Fiorentina are also better than those teams, but are Arsenal, Spurs, Valencia, Sevilla and Fiorentina that make a league the strongest one?

Perhaos PL is as strong as La Liga and Bundesliga, but not THE strongest as claimed by many. About the two horse argument, as I said before, "with the notable exception this year", PL has always bees a two horse race. Sometimes you just change the name of the horses, but since 2004 United have been one of the horses every single season, with the exception of 2003, 2004 and 2014. The rest of the seasons were United/Liverpool, United/Chelsea, United/City, and no to mention the one horse race we had in 2005, 2006, 2013.

The talk about 4 or 6 teams fighting for the trophy started in last 4 years, and as I said before, its not a coincidence that PL looked more competitive when Liverpool, Chelsea, United and Arsenal couldn't rebuild teams that were once world beaters. Years ago a decisive match between Real Madrid or Bayern and a PL giant had a predictable outcome. To be honest its not a surprise anymore if a team like PSG, Atletico de Madrid or Borussia Dortmund manage to beat Chelsea. Someone happened in the last 4 or 5 years, and for many reasons PL is not the strongest anymore.

If Mourinho manage to build another world beater team, that scenario might change again, because I do believe Mourinhos tactic combined with Roman's money was the reason PL was once the strongest league in the world.

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Well, I'm not sure top 5 PLl clubs from last season are that superior when compared to La Liga ones. Is Chelsea better than Real Madrid? Is Liverpool better than Barcelona? (Suarez left one and joined the other one for a reason). Perhaps Arsenal is better than Sevilla, Spurs better than Valencia, but form me Internazionale and Fiorentina are also better than those teams, but are Arsenal, Spurs, Valencia, Sevilla and Fiorentina that make a league the strongest one?

Perhaos PL is as strong as La Liga and Bundesliga, but not THE strongest as claimed by many. About the two horse argument, as I said before, "with the notable exception this year", PL has always bees a two horse race. Sometimes you just change the name of the horses, but since 2004 United have been one of the horses every single season, with the exception of 2003, 2004 and 2014. The rest of the seasons were United/Liverpool, United/Chelsea, United/City, and no to mention the one horse race we had in 2005, 2006, 2013.

The talk about 4 or 6 teams fighting for the trophy started in last 4 years, and as I said before, its not a coincidence that PL looked more competitive when Liverpool, Chelsea, United and Arsenal couldn't rebuild teams that were once world beaters. Years ago a decisive match between Real Madrid or Bayern and a PL giant had a predictable outcome. To be honest its not a surprise anymore if a team like PSG, Atletico de Madrid or Borussia Dortmund manage to beat Chelsea. Someone happened in the last 4 or 5 years, and for many reasons PL is not the strongest anymore.

If Mourinho manage to build another world beater team, that scenario might change again, because I do believe Mourinhos tactic combined with Roman's money was the reason PL was once the strongest league in the world.

Of course not, but teams like Chelsea, United and Arsenal face tougher and similar-level opposition on a more regular basis in the league, when say compared to Madrid, Bayern or Barcelona. Plus you have the crazy fixture pile-up.

That's why squads of PL teams tend to be quite worn out when you reach the knockout rounds of the CL competition.

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Jose Mourinho didn't try to sign Luke Shaw because his £120,000-a-week wage would have unsettled Chelsea squad

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2706095/Jose-Mourinho-didnt-try-sign-Luke-Shaw-120-000-week-wage-unsettled-Chelsea.html

mind games genius.

At least we were trying.
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