Ze Mario 638 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 counter attacking ... can it be a permanent style for a team? especially for one which is full of superstars and, therefore, can not be considered an underdog in most situations? .. I mean, what happens to such a team when it can't afford to sit back?I don't know if it is even a THING, like tiki-taka, high-pressing or long-ball. For me its more of a specific quality in a situation...and people say it will be Chelsea's identity next season... I don't get it, some body helpPS: for me, a team should be able to keep its identity in most situations in a game. Say, if we've couple of good free-kick takers and a considerable amount of our goals comes through them, we can not claim free-kick taking as our style/identity be cause it is too event driven Dortmund (especially when they had kagawa), Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid. And each of them have solution to face teams with tight defense. Dortmund have Lewandoski, Atletico Madrid have Diego Costa, Real Madrid have Many (or Money), while chelsea number9 is a professional supermodel.Yeah, counter attacking is one of many football style of play. Counter attacking style doesnt mean its only about how we counter attack. But how to defense tight, making opponent frustrate, while we positioned some players ready to advance forward to opponent's side using their gaps Redondo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Is that the new phrase you've given to the people you "called out" earlier?Regardless. None of us are saying that a top striker won't make a difference, of course they will. If we had one this year we probably would've won the league but it would've papered over the cracks of an incomplete system. A top striker is vital but if you seriously think that it'll magically improve the fact that we're still too slow in transition from defence to attack, that we don't stretch the pitch enough, that we don't support our most creative player with off the ball movement and overlaps from players around and behind him (specifically a good attacking left back) Even Atletico Madrid who have a very similar system to us implement two naturally attacking fullbacks (Filipe & Juanfran). I still maintain a left back and a creative CM are as vital as getting a striker - that is if we want to have a complete system and team that Mourinho can fully utilise in different situations.I fully agree with this. Especially a new CM is required. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Dortmund (especially when they had kagawa), Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid. And each of them have solution to face teams with tight defense. Dortmund have Lewandoski, Atletico Madrid have Diego Costa, Real Madrid have Many (or Money), while chelsea number9 is a professional supermodel.Yeah, counter attacking is one of many football style of play. Counter attacking style doesnt mean its only about how we counter attack. But how to defense tight, making opponent frustrate, while we positioned some players ready to advance forward to opponent's side using their gapsbut, what happens when teams decide not to attack at all?because, if I'm not mistaken, for an effective counter attacking to happen the opponent needs to make the mistake of putting too much of his resources on the offense, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Mario 638 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 but, what happens when teams decide not to attack at all?because, if I'm not mistaken, for an effective counter attacking to happen the opponent needs to make the mistake of putting too much of his resources on the offense, right?right. thats why i posted other team have their striker whom can create something from nothing. Or CAM who easily give a through pass or the ability of long shoot. We have eden to unlock that kind of teams. He always draws attention from opponents player to create a gap for his team mates. It is our striker and the other AM who cant maximize those chance.For a team which identified by having a counter attacking play, ofc its not necessary to implement that style in all matches. We have different opponent, we shall have different strategy. Its called flexibility. Like Atletico Madrid when they faced us at their home. Atletico known as counter attacking team, yet they played possession football against us. But the world still know them as deadly team with their counter atk strategy Redondo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 In most cases, especially if we get even stronger in the summer, teams will come to defend against Chelsea and almost all of them will be more than happy to get a draw. Therefore, Jose's should come up with a game plan which is less dependent on the hope of the other team making a mistake. Ze Mario 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I should've said slow transition from defence to attack with regards to our main problem this season: against teams that sit deep against us, which is what that whole post was in conjunction to. I thought that was pretty obvious but never mind.100% .. it is lack of pace in the counter attacks ... really only Willian breaks fast with the ball from defence ... too many start to break then turn and pass backand all momentum is destroyed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Mario 638 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 In most cases, especially if we get even stronger in the summer, teams will come to defend against Chelsea and almost all of them will be more than happy to get a draw. Therefore, Jose's should come up with a game plan which is less dependent on the hope of the other team making a mistake.he will surely do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimmas 131 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 We ONLY need quality striker and then our game will massively improve ??Really ?I REALLY REALLY hope mou doesnt so clueless like thatWe really need improve our attack as a teamour collective play, player movement, our attacking player decision in final thirdIf we fail to improve that aspect next season. This team again just one dimensional, and will look shit and really clueless how to break well and organized defence beside much reliant to Eden Hazardmainly because we already have one of the best left-backs in the league already (a point that goes amiss with alarming regularity on here).oh god, its not about having azpilicueta, actually who play really good mostly only about helping defence with his determination, full commitment But what we talking here, to help team attack much more better than what we saw this season, when we face opposition who give us ball possesion, waiting and sit backthe problem about fullback is because mourinho dont allowed them to join attack, in many games rarely making overlaping run and playing our best fullback in the wrong side, make him more harder to threat opposition defender, i said by making azpi first choice left back, even could be very good when comes to defend, but is like killing or atleast really wastefull his attacking traits he posses, which could be very useful for us actually laura90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Jose needs to buy more than just a striker. Cole, Frank, Luiz, Mikel are just about gone & he needs to replace them. Chelsea will be involved in every imaginable competition next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAdibi! 106 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Jose needs to buy more than just a striker.Cole, Frank, Luiz, Mikel are just about gone & he needs to replace them. Chelsea will be involved in every imaginable competition next season.I think we will see a domination in the premier league. Not sure about other competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Dan, Jose is ready to dominate with double Deckers, I read. Lol. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAdibi! 106 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Double deckers or F1 cars, we will see domination next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Oh yeah, even cars? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAdibi! 106 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Wouldn't mind a few helicopters if we could get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Bunker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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