The Mourinho Thread

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Mourinho fan boys wont accept he had a worse season that Benitez who not only had a terrible squad, but did not spend 100 million and was constantly under pressure from the fans. Playing style wise we have even regressed. Dont tell me Benitez did not win game becasue he won against Man Utd, Arsenal, Drew at Liverpool, Tottenham who had Bale, won the europa league with an injured Hazard and no bench cover, played on the counter just as Mou seems to play and overall his football was much better on the eye compared to this rubbish Mourinho has had us endure all season. I honestly wish we still had Carlo, he was not a drama queen, played good football and promoted the youth players too.

[Term-X 7,891]

[Mourinho fan boys] x1,000

[Styles 9,790]

I think it's gotten to the point where a lot of the reactions to the criticisms of Mourinho are just as knee-jerk as some of the criticisms itself. I admit that a few of the posts I've read on here slating Mourinho have been over the top, but at the same time there're some that have been legitimate criticisms. The problem I'm seeing here is that regardless of whether there're unreasonable or valid, any criticism of Mourinho is being met with angry accusations of being a glory hunter. This is exactly the same thing some members did in the beginning of the season when a few were saying that Oscar doesn't give us enough creativity and shouldn't be played in the number 10 position ahead of Mata. It was the same kind of reaction.......... "mata fanboy", "plastic fan" "support the club not the player".

It's normal to respond angrily to unpopular opinions (I'm not excused from that myself) but to start making accusations and calling lionsden or whoever, a plastic supporter just because they dare to hold a contrasting opinion from the normative thinking, crosses the line of reason.

I don't agree with everything Lionsden or MrExcalibur have said but I just think it's ridiculous that they're being treated with so little civility by a few on here when really, they haven't said anything so outrageous to warrant that kind of treatment. It's not like they've said "Mourinho will be the death of Chelsea. Sack him now". What they've said is that Mourinho has certain flaws that they don't like and they've been brave enough to verbalize them rather than follow the flock.

Imo I think what we've seen in the champions league this season isn't really the "death of tika taka" but what can happen when a coach isn't flexible and when a coach prescribes too rigidly to one type of system.

Mourinho needs to evolve as a coach and he needs to evolve his tactics. If saying so makes me a shit supporter, then ya'll can kiss my ass.

Well said.

[quickpassnmove 924]

Agreed. Investments are needed and investments in plural indeed. We all pretty much know where we need to strenghten, and it is fair, IMO to criticize our team for not playing better football despite the money previously invested. Fair enough. But to claim Mourinho has a team that can play expansive football AND win is a stretch. I agree that we probably need 3-4 new players to compete for the title, let us hope we do get those!

I would not and was not suggesting that Jose and CFC were ready to play more "expansive" football this season--and win enough. fullback and center midfield were inadequate from August last year--let alone the striker problem. But I will keep repeating the need for more quality in center midfield than just one new player this summer and the need to play quicker passes to pull and penetrate the opponent. Chelsea have LOST this ability and have shown it far too infrequently for years. It's going to be ugly if CFC go into the next season playing slow possession and get destroyed by a quick-passing, rejuvenated ManUtd squad. I don't want the Blues to be stuck for another 10 years with the label of billionaire club that cannot play above 3rd gear, unable to scare an opponent with attack speed and combination play.

[The only place to be 11,313]

See what I mean? Saying anything remotely negative about Mourinho now equals to slating the club to some. Fan-fucking-tastic.

Measured criticism is fine but repeating the same old shit week in and week out is dull as fuck. This season hasn't been perfect but some people change like the wind, going from last Sunday's jubilation to shitting on the team this week. Some people simply don't know the meaning of the word support and now this 'victimisation' thing you're trying to hide behind is even more tiresome.

Exactly. Saying anything negative about Mourinho is like committing a crime on this forum...

Oh waaaahhhh.....

No it's not. Measured criticism is fine but some people aren't capable of that. Some people want everything now rather than having anything remotely approaching patience.

They even regurgitate the same shit about us parking the bus that rival fans use. It's pathetic.

Lol you still deny you're not patronising? even you criticise, maybe not Mourinho but Luiz? Ramires? Oscar?

I'v admitted I can be patronising. I've also criticised Mourinho, but admitted I was wrong as well. He's building something in his first season here.

Luiz and Ramires have been here long enough for me to have a fair idea of who they are and what they are capable of. I've actually defended players like Schurrle, Matic and Salah because they're new to this club and I understand that they need time. I've criticised Oscar for his poor form but I've also said he was our most important player at the start of the season, and he deserves patience.

So if you want to criticise me, at least get your facts right.

[Peppen 934]

I would not and was not suggesting that Jose and CFC were ready to play more "expansive" football this season--and win enough. fullback and center midfield were inadequate from August last year--let alone the striker problem. But I will keep repeating the need for more quality in center midfield than just one new player this summer and the need to play quicker passes to pull and penetrate the opponent. Chelsea have LOST this ability and have shown it far too infrequently for years. It's going to be ugly if CFC go into the next season playing slow possession and get destroyed by a quick-passing, rejuvenated ManUtd squad. I don't want the Blues to be stuck for another 10 years with the label of billionaire club that cannot play above 3rd gear, unable to scare an opponent with attack speed and combination play.

I know you have not been suggesting that we are ready, but other posters have. I was merely referring to those

[dee25 1,044]

[Mourinho fan boys] x1,000

Forgive us. Clearly we should only be criticizing Mourinho on his choice of attire. My bad!

New topic: is Jose losing to Guardiola in the fashion stakes??

Better?

[bushman 2,043]

Since everyone has the right to express his opinion here, why anyone should question it?

Those who do not like it, I have a simple solution. Do not read or respond to it.

Every day for the past month or so, we read about Jose´s antics & some of you do not want to address it? Lol.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Since everyone has the right to express his opinion here, why anyone should question it?

Those who do not like it, I have a simple solution. Do not read or respond to it.

Every day for the past month or so, we read about Jose´s antics & some of you do not want to address it? Lol.

You are such a hypocrite.

[bushman 2,043]

You are such a hypocrite.

Shut up!

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Shut up!

That's it? You've become a parody of yourself. One minute you're throwing around racist stereotypes at people you don't know, people with different viewpoints on certain issues, the other minute you're accusing other members of the exact same thing you just did wrong. But whatever swings your boat I guess.

[Term-X 7,891]

Forgive us. Clearly we should only be criticizing Mourinho on his choice of attire. My bad!

New topic: is Jose losing to Guardiola in the fashion stakes??

Better?

Yep. The guy who invented controversial on TalkChelsea is a blind Mourinho worshipper who thinks he's god.

[didierforever 7,349]

some people think jose is "useless", someone even called him a "twat". people have said that we cant win anything with him and that he simply is not the right manager ( ).

on the other hand TOPTB thinks we will win the league come next year. i am with him. he is only asking them to put their money where their mouth has been all this long time. dont think there is anything wrong with a wager. i am in with TOPTB. i feel we will win the league, what about the people who constantly slag jose!!!

[bushman 2,043]

That's it? You've become a parody of yourself. One minute you're throwing around racist stereotypes at people you don't know, people with different viewpoints on certain issues, the other minute you're accusing other members of the exact same thing you just did wrong. But whatever swings your boat I guess.

Read up clown!

Your postings are nothing, but an attack on Jose. No matter what he does, farts or whatever you criticized.

I even feel, you should be banned, for stupidity.

[Ze Mario 638]

I think it's gotten to the point where a lot of the reactions to the criticisms of Mourinho are just as knee-jerk as some of the criticisms itself. I admit that a few of the posts I've read on here slating Mourinho have been over the top, but at the same time there're some that have been legitimate criticisms. The problem I'm seeing here is that regardless of whether there're unreasonable or valid, any criticism of Mourinho is being met with angry accusations of being a glory hunter. This is exactly the same thing some members did in the beginning of the season when a few were saying that Oscar doesn't give us enough creativity and shouldn't be played in the number 10 position ahead of Mata. It was the same kind of reaction.......... "mata fanboy", "plastic fan" "support the club not the player".

It's normal to respond angrily to unpopular opinions (I'm not excused from that myself) but to start making accusations and calling lionsden or whoever, a plastic supporter just because they dare to hold a contrasting opinion from the normative thinking, crosses the line of reason.

I don't agree with everything Lionsden or MrExcalibur have said but I just think it's ridiculous that they're being treated with so little civility by a few on here when really, they haven't said anything so outrageous to warrant that kind of treatment. It's not like they've said "Mourinho will be the death of Chelsea. Sack him now". What they've said is that Mourinho has certain flaws that they don't like and they've been brave enough to verbalize them rather than follow the flock.

Imo I think what we've seen in the champions league this season isn't really the "death of tika taka" but what can happen when a coach isn't flexible and when a coach prescribes too rigidly to one type of system.

Mourinho needs to evolve as a coach and he needs to evolve his tactics. If saying so makes me a shit supporter, then ya'll can kiss my ass.

And what if there's some people who like rafa football better than jose? Even to the point they want rafa back or don carlo back. Isnt that the same thing as they want mou sacked? I personally dont give a damn about them whom said mou's PC was total shite, he played shite football, or the other shite things he did for his beloved club (according to these "fans").

I bet a lot if these people will shut up if there is result even jose's tactic was shitte (result = trophy. according to these fans). Manure fans said they play shite football when SAF won their last PL title. Even when Man Shitty won their PL title, some Manure fans said maybe its time for SAF to retire.

And i bet a lot too, these people, if we successfully play beautiful football like they wanted, and we still end up trophyless, they still want new manager to bring another "beautiful" football (even god dont know what their definition of "beautiful" football).

So the only thing what matters for them, are trophies. And what do we call these fans who cared only for trophies? Plastic.

And lot of us want stability, foundation, long term plans (I believe all football fans want these), then we should stick and support our manager. Its okay to call the team shit, or call the manager shit if indeed their performance is disaster. Criticizing them is one way supporting the team. But please just dont be hypocrite. One day after the bad game, you call mou shite. The other day after the amazing game, you celebrate with the other and shamelessly said "Im happy mourinho proved me wrong". One day you post on "Is Chelsea the most hated club" say "Yes and im proud of it", and on other thread you say this club is embarrassment.

And call mou twat? There's a limit when you criticize your own manager. Even if i call forum members twat or cunt i'll definitely get banned.

Mou just had 1 bad season with chelsea, but the knee jerk here like Arsenal fans moaning about wenger for 8 trophyless years.