thekid9 418 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Schurrle and Willian were both signed by Mourinho and they have both been arguably our 2 best players this season with the exception of Ramires maybe. So I would say he is already doing that.Personally, I still think his second term here will be a success. Today for example, people are complaining about us losing to one of the worst sides in the league but the truth is we dominated 85% of the game and actually played good looking football. So clearly, there are a few KEY aspects that need to be fixed, but once that's done I think we'll be looking good.Remember the most defining aspect of a Mourinho team is its strong defense. And yet Chelsea has one of the worst defenses in the PL. Just from that, you know this is still not a Mourinho team.Luiz , Ivan , Cahill all play every game for their country....they should be world class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I dont like or agree with Mourinho since his stint with Madrid...However, a blind man can see this team isnt his kind of team....... yet.With the amount of young talent he has available, he really needs to start looking at his options and moving forward if he doesnt think they are his kind of players......He really needs to bring in mourinho type players and sell the rest..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hey guys, calm down, we're in transition. lionsden and Mouri_Matic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid9 418 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hey guys, calm down, we're in transition. that line is starting to wear a little thing Mouri_Matic and Styles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 that line is starting to wear a little thing No we have babies like Hazrad, Oscar and Schurrle in the team. We're in transition and will be a good team by 2020. Keep the faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hey guys, calm down, we're in transition. That line could work for anything really.Disappointed Americans - Mr president, why did you make a promise you couldn't deliver to the people regarding the healthcare planObama- "We are in transition people, try to be patient" The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid9 418 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 No we have babies like Hazrad, Oscar and Schurrle in the team. We're in transition and will be a good team by 2020. Keep the faith in 2020 football will cease to exist due to Demba BA self combusting after scoring a goal and ending the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 That line could work for anything really.Disappointed Americans - Mr president, why did you make a promise you couldn't deliver to the people regarding the healthcare planObama- "We are in transition people, try to be patient"When my manager asks me why I haven't produced work at the end of the week I'm going to tell him I'm in transition. lionsden and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Madmax 9,219 Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 17, 2013 This guy is a fucking fraud. Not only are we playing shit, we're regressing game after game. Half the season gone and I can count the number of decent performances on the fingers of one hand. The players make the same mistakes every single game - which begs the question, what do you coach them for and about, fucker?Also, his press releases are tedious as fuck. Stop using the t word and stop trying to pass off grossly incompetent performances all over the pitch as being due to lacking a killer instinct. Notice how he's gone all quiet on his "preparation methods" once we started shipping in those set piece goals from the Sunderland game? Yet he was more than happy to harp about how he had sussed West Ham's style of play after we beat them.Oh and play Mata. Get over yourself you idiot. Amblève., Reddish-Blue, Vybz Kartel and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 In all honesty guys don't be so naive he HAS to come and say that rubbish . He can't come out and say "...Please somebody come and take Ba and Etoo away they are competing for worst striker of the year" He doesn't have anyone else to put on he didn't inherit a team with the likes of RVP, we have crap, worse and awful as our three stooges. I feel for him there isn't a lot he can do, we need to buy a striker or we are going nowhere and Jose is on the bus home. GodZola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 This guy is a fucking fraud. Not only are we playing shit, we're regressing game after game. Half the season gone and I can count the number of decent performances on the fingers of one hand. The players make the same mistakes every single game - which begs the question, what do you coach them for and about, fucker?Also, his press releases are tedious as fuck. Stop using the t word and stop trying to pass off grossly incompetent performances all over the pitch as being due to lacking a killer instinct. Notice how he's gone all quiet on his "preparation methods" once we started shipping in those set piece goals from the Sunderland game? Yet he was more than happy to harp about how he had sussed West Ham's style of play after we'd done it.Oh and play Mata. Get over yourself you idiot.You didn't pick the best of times to come back to this site, did you Jai? It's all havoc again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Roman, the January bills are incoming. And I doubt they'll have any lube, they're going in dry. Mouri_Matic and The_Flash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 This guy is a fucking fraud The players make the same mistakes every single game The players make the same mistakes The players make the The playersExactly. It's not Mourinho's fault if Eto'o suddenly decides to play shit and it's certainly not Mourinho's fault for Luiz not preventing that 2nd goal. People on here show sympathy for AVB after him getting sacked because 'he had so many new players to work with' and so that was too difficult to produce results with - and Mourinho? Does that not apply to him then? Does he not get time to adjust? GodZola and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DDA 9,941 Posted December 18, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 18, 2013 Exactly. It's not Mourinho's fault if Eto'o suddenly decides to play shit and it's certainly not Mourinho's fault for Luiz not preventing that 2nd goal. People on here show sympathy for AVB after him getting sacked because 'he had so many new players to work with' and so that was too difficult to produce results with - and Mourinho? Does that not reply to him then? Does he not get time to adjust?You should know by now that Chelsea has some of the most snotty nosed brats in footballing history. They beg for Mourinho's returm then call him a fraud because he isn't having instant success. Pathetic. I don't blame them entirely for adopting this kind of attitude though. I put it down to the way football has become in general with the money and heavy sacking involved.Remember when Benitez came out in press comfrences and didn't protect the players at all... and people were in uproar. Then when ajose comes out and protects them he's making excuses and is an apparent fraud. Barbara, The only place to be, The Mak and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 He has destroyed the confidence of the 3 behind the striker, Last season Mata 20 goals, Hazard 12, Oscar 10, Moses 11, Lampard 15, Even Marin chipped in with 1. His fucking obsession with letting them do extra work has reduced our productivity up front. Even Torres was up to 10 goals by this time last year. Mourinho has been a failure since his return I do not see any improvement from what Rafa had last season ecxpet Luiz has regressed due to lack of confidence, our defence has started coceding more than we used to. We no longer score from set pieces like we did last year if I am not mistaken no other team scored more headed goals than CFC last season. We are 2nd because the league is much weaker this year and there is no one really capitalising at the top since everyone has a weakness. Same old story the midfield is crappy tell me a new story. Since AVB was here we all knew we needed proper midfielders like Modric and Cabaye. I still do not get the logic of spending 30 mill on Willian he is good but that department was already good enough for our team we could hv invested that 30 mill into a fucking midfielder and striker. Mourinho had been bad and I hope he improves soon for the sake of the match going paying fans thekid9 and lionsden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekid9 418 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 He has destroyed the confidence of the 3 behind the striker, Last season Mata 20 goals, Hazard 12, Oscar 10, Moses 11, Lampard 15, Even Marin chipped in with 1. His fucking obsession with letting them do extra work has reduced our productivity up front. Even Torres was up to 10 goals by this time last year. Mourinho has been a failure since his return I do not see any improvement from what Rafa had last season ecxpet Luiz has regressed due to lack of confidence, our defence has started coceding more than we used to. We no longer score from set pieces like we did last year if I am not mistaken no other team scored more headed goals than CFC last season. We are 2nd because the league is much weaker this year and there is no one really capitalising at the top since everyone has a weakness. Same old story the midfield is crappy tell me a new story. Since AVB was here we all knew we needed proper midfielders like Modric and Cabaye. I still do not get the logic of spending 30 mill on Willian he is good but that department was already good enough for our team we could hv invested that 30 mill into a fucking midfielder and striker. Mourinho had been bad and I hope he improves soon for the sake of the match going paying fansCouldn't have put it better myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted December 18, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 18, 2013 He has destroyed the confidence of the 3 behind the striker, Last season Mata 20 goals, Hazard 12, Oscar 10, Moses 11, Lampard 15, Even Marin chipped in with 1. His fucking obsession with letting them do extra work has reduced our productivity up front. Even Torres was up to 10 goals by this time last year. Mourinho has been a failure since his return I do not see any improvement from what Rafa had last season ecxpet Luiz has regressed due to lack of confidence, our defence has started coceding more than we used to. We no longer score from set pieces like we did last year if I am not mistaken no other team scored more headed goals than CFC last season. We are 2nd because the league is much weaker this year and there is no one really capitalising at the top since everyone has a weakness. Same old story the midfield is crappy tell me a new story. Since AVB was here we all knew we needed proper midfielders like Modric and Cabaye. I still do not get the logic of spending 30 mill on Willian he is good but that department was already good enough for our team we could hv invested that 30 mill into a fucking midfielder and striker. Mourinho had been bad and I hope he improves soon for the sake of the match going paying fansRibery and Robben do 'extra work' and it's one of the main reason's Bayern are as good as they are.Barca became as good as they are due to their work off the ball instead off on it, Southampton are overachieving miles ahead of their station for exactly the same reason.Sometimes it is exaggerated how much, but balance is important in a team, do you know what's stopping City being as good as anyone? Pellegrini doesn't make his attacking midfielders work off the ball, yes they will get some fancy stats and a few 5-0 beating's, but in this day in age, to be a dominant force in football, mainly players have to be good at both aspects of the game. It's funny because despite us being quite average and them amazing at times we are still above them with harder fixtures (City have all the top 7 away still to come bar Chelsea).I mean i keep reading how Azpilicueta should play ahead of Ivanovic because he is better going forward (same with Bertrand/Cole), yet the same people shoot down any suggestion of the AM's having to be good off the ball saying, it's completely contradictory and rather hypocritical. Mart, darrus, kellzfresh and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Ribery and Robben do 'extra work' and it's one of the main reason's Bayern are as good as they are.Barca became as good as they are due to their work off the ball instead off on it, Southampton are overachieving miles ahead of their station for exactly the same reason.Sometimes it is exaggerated how much, but balance is important in a team, do you know what's stopping City being as good as anyone? Pellegrini doesn't make his attacking midfielders work off the ball, yes they will get some fancy stats and a few 5-0 beating's, but in this day in age, to be a dominant force in football, mainly players have to be good at both aspects of the game. It's funny because despite us being quite average and them amazing at times we are still above them with harder fixtures.I mean i keep reading how Azpilicueta should play ahead of Ivanovic because he is better going forward (same with Bertrand/Cole), yet the same people shoot down any suggestion of the AM's having to be good off the ball saying, it's completely contradictory and rather hypocritical.When I say extra work I do not mean that they should not help defensively, they should help press up higher up the field but he is asking too much from them which is affecting their productivity up front hence we are struggling for goals and assits. Mata almost played like a 2nd striker last season and was always there in the pen box with Torres this year it seems like there is only one person in the box surrounded by 20 defenders because the 3 would hv been tracking back rather than doing their actual job of creating and scoring goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 When I say extra work I do not mean that they should not help defensively, they should help press up higher up the field but he is asking too much from them which is affecting their productivity up front hence we are struggling for goals and assits. Mata almost played like a 2nd striker last season and was always there in the pen box with Torres this year it seems like there is only one person in the box surrounded by 20 defenders because the 3 would hv been tracking back rather than doing their actual job of creating and scoring goals When i see Bayern, Ribery and Robben are always busting a gut to get back when they don't have the ball, protecting Rafinha/Lahm's and Alaba's backside, while the fullback's return the favour to the R+R and offer overlapping support on the attack.The trick to being a great team these days is defending and attacking as a team, the days of defender's doing their job and attackers doing their's are well and truly over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 When i see Bayern, Ribery and Robben are always busting a gut to get back when they don't have the ball, protecting Rafinha/Lahm's and Alaba's backside, while the fullback's return the favour to the R+R and offer overlapping support on the attack.The trick to being a great team these days is defending and attacking as a team, the days of defender's doing their job and attackers doing their's are well and truly over.We seem to be doing niether at the moment like I said last season our 3 behind the striker scored over 40 goals between then whilst the defenders also chipped in with quite a few. In terms of defending I think its more to do with lack of a midfield general to protect the defence and link defence and attack. Lamps is past it now ramires is not the answer he is a box to box mid and mikel I wont even begin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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