The Mourinho Thread

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

We want changes?!

Then We must to be patient. Not like with AVB.

[Styles 9,790]

In a wide-ranging critique of his Chelsea side, Mourinho said he was unhappy with their recent style and said the players must adapt to his demands. "I don't like the way Chelsea were playing the last couple of years; the club doesn't like it and we want to change," he said. "We want to play a different style. The past is history – even my past. I'm here like I've just arrived."

If that's the case why didn't he make bigger personnel changes in the summer? How are we going to play differently if many areas have remained largely unchanged? Our central midfield should have been revamped if he is serious about playing a different style.

[Cosmin 2,484]

Funny how all of these people (the media, other teams' fans) suddenly decided to start worrying about Chelsea, about Mata, about us, the fans. And by suddenly I mean when Mourinho got appointed. From the very first day they said that Mata and Luiz aren't liked by Jose because they aren't good defensively. From the very first day! And the most frustrating thing is that now they even say that we were playing much better and offensive football in the last years, when we won the UCL and Europa League. They are the very same people who were complaining about how Chelsea was destroying football, how we were all about defensive and non-spectacular football. Unbelievable.

[Tomo 21,751]

the main reason for that happening is that we dint have a good striker who could take the load off our attacking mids and we dint have a world class DM. and we still dont have any of those 2.

Maybe last season, but finishing 6th in 2012 went much deeper than just not having a forward and a DM.

[Tomo 21,751]

1. Our team had a beautiful thing going on with the Mazacar trio. Mourinho came and instantly fucked up the only part of the team that should have been left untouched.

How exactly? the trio may look nice on the eye, but there is far too much imbalance when those play together.

[Jack Uzzi 54]

Crazy to say say these things about Mata in public.

Not sure what Mourinho is heading for. Why not keep what was good last seasons and build on making use of the depth the squad now has? Maybe he'll need to look for DM, central forward but for the time being there is enough quality to play in different shapes. Imo it is ridiculous to claim Chelsea lost the last two games because he is thinking of the next four years.

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Unlike Liverpool and spurs etc we can't build a team and wait a few seasons for it to come good. We are expected to win things straight away especially now Jose is back. Liverpool and other teams are lucky,they can rebuild and drop off the radar for a while

[Sidzeret 2,257]

the main reason for that happening is that we dint have a good striker who could take the load off our attacking mids and we dint have a world class DM. and we still dont have any of those 2.

We had Didier at 2012

[NishC300 1,865]

I must confess I'm rather confused.

I fail to understand what people mean by Mata doesn't perform in the big games. Last season, he destroyed Manchester United (the 'Champions') in every game he played, I'm sorry but doesn't Chelsea-United count as a big game for you. He performed superbly against Arsenal in both fixtures and had a brilliant game vs Spurs. He scored a brilliant goal to get us 3 points at Carrow Road. Scored against Everton last season and was good in the home fixture vs Shaktar. He consistently performed incredibly. If Mata is that bad people, then why are other teams dying to get their hands on him?

This work rate thing is being taken against Mata a lot, it's as though it's the only important thing. Moreover, I'm also wondering why we spent 30 mil on a #10 when we already have one like Mata. Willian doesn't possess the greatest work rate from what I know (I might be wrong so please correct me). So when this playmaker you people regard as unworthy of starting for Chelsea purely cos of work rate (i.e Mata) is bad, then why Willian? Have you not seen that Mata is the most intelligent player in the league (ofc it's Ozil now) and has brilliant passing vision. He can drift in beautiful long balls which I must say nobody in our team is currently capable of doing.

So then the question is why did we waste these 30 mil on Willian when we have Mata? Should we not have brought in a winger (as Ballack pointed on Sky that we have too many of the same players). True, you could argue that these days there aren't too many genuine wingers these days, but for 30 mil I guess we could find someone who provides width.If Arsenal managed to get Ozil of RM, would it have been possible for us to get Di Maria, which would possibly have resulted in RM not selling Ozil to Arsenal?

Then I hear the other thing, that these days it is the job of the full backs to provide the width for a team and not the wingers. Then the questions is why do we have Ivanovic and Cole playing at full back if it is their job to provide width? Surely we should have bought an attacking-minded full back (or maybe even let Wallace stay?). So if the full backs are supposed to provide the width then why aren't we using Azpilicueta and Bertrand since they are technically superior and have more pace. IMO Mata is still useful for us and now this Willian signing is starting to feel rather confusing to me.

Very tricky. This really is a weird dilemma.

[zolayes 14,489]

Unlike Liverpool and spurs etc we can't build a team and wait a few seasons for it to come good. We are expected to win things straight away especially now Jose is back. Liverpool and other teams are lucky,they can rebuild and drop off the radar for a while

there has been talk of transition for over 6 years now ,,,each time the crunch has come the plan has been dropped ..

how many more times and how many more managers before Roman has the patience to see it through.

[didierforever 7,349]

Maybe last season, but finishing 6th in 2012 went much deeper than just not having a forward and a DM.

6th was an exagerration. we could have come 4th or atleast 5th easily if we put in a fight. but by the end of it we had given up. i mean the kind of team that started arsenal away (after barca first leg) and liverpool away (after winning FA cup) should be a clear indication. we were relying more on our CL performance to get us a CL spot than the league itself. so i really feel that 2011-12 does not give a fair estimation.

[Leif 6,006]

I'd be lying if i said we look better under Mourinho than we did under Benitez. It's horrible to be saying that but it's true.

Hazard looked better, Mata actually played and was probably amongst the top 5, definitely top 10, players in Europe last season, Mou is playing Lampard far too much as almost everyone on here agrees, he's completely limited Ramires and what annoys me perhaps most is that he hasn't given a fair fucking chance to Azpilicueta or Bertrand and continues to persist with Ivanovic at right back!

Something's clearly not right in his head so far. He must be trying something new behind the scenes and clearly failing. We actually have less cohesiveness, consistency & goal threat compared to last season.

Rushed and probably still fueled by the emotions of the Basel loss, I just had to get that out before the Fulham game to (hopefully) avoid the onslaught of "KNEE JERK REACTION!!!!" posts.

I'm not calling for his head already, but I'm buying none of that 'we're in a transition' bullshit as an excuse for Mourinho being a very poor manager since his arrival. You don't stay in transition for 4 or 5 years. We have an average age of 28 or some shit at the moment, that needs to fucking mature? He doesn't get special treatment for past success here. He even said himself to judge him off what he does this time. 5 games in a row without a win at this club just cannot be accepted.

Edit: One more thing - What the fuck is with his awful substitutes? Benitez made subs at the oddest times based on conclusions before the match had even started, but at least for the most part he brought the right players on, something Mourinho has done perhaps once since he got here. Can't believe this mess we're in so far. Wish Lucien Favre would get a look-in one day.

[didierforever 7,349]

We had Didier at 2012

avb did not start him in the start of the season. and when he did, DD got KO by the norwich keeper, then got a red against qpr, then a month for afcon and during the end, he was basically for CL, FA cup matches rather than the league. also even DD was pretty poor for a league match in2011-12. he showed no fire, no enthusiasm, and simply was not the DD of old or the DD that we saw in CL and FA cup games.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

the main reason for that happening is that we dint have a good striker who could take the load off our attacking mids and we dint have a world class DM. and we still dont have any of those 2.

The lack of a world class DM is something that still perturbs me, yes. But I doubt getting a new one is entirely down to Mourinho.

As far as a striker goes, look...Neither Ba, Torres and now Eto'o have been getting the best of service. Face it, its not because all 3 strikers degraded in quality after coming here...Our system just does NOT provide good service for strikers...and I think that's something Mourinho should change if he can.

[didierforever 7,349]

The lack of a world class DM is something that still perturbs me, yes. But I doubt getting a new one is entirely down to Mourinho.

As far as a striker goes, look...Neither Ba, Torres and now Eto'o have been getting the best of service. Face it, its not because all 3 strikers degraded in quality after coming here...Our system just does NOT provide good service for strikers...and I think that's something Mourinho should change if he can.

did u see rvp's goal against leverkusen. it was something out of nothing. absolutely nothing. a shit cross that was played behind him and full pace but ended in the back of the net. thats the class of striker u want when u r 1-1 at home on matchday1 in CL. and at the end of the season, that is what makes the difference.

etoo has got service. everton game-he should have bagged a hat-trick. the basel game , i accept that the whole team was shit but that is when a WC striker shows his quality.