The Mourinho Thread

[Laylabelle 9,351]

That and LVG hasn't gone anywhere yet lol.

[Muzchap 8,966]

while salivating at 10%.

This is the real problem in football - it's bigger than anything else.

Agents are absolute wankers and it's getting worse, they don't care about their clients or the club, they just want their commission and if that means dripping poison into the players ear, so be it.

I can easily imagine calls like "Well you definitely deserve to be playing, it's scandalous that you are not blah blah"

"I have heard that Everton really like you and would give you 100% game time, what they are doing there is really special blah blah"

So the manager is pretty fucked, every team selection will lead to a call with the dropped player's agent etc,

This is why 'loyalty' is now a misnomer in football

Yes, Jose could and probably should have handled Lukaku better, but for me the agents have a lot to answer for...

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Mourinho looking like he'll be back at madrid.

[Tomo 21,733]

Wrong, De Bruyne was only given a handful of games even after he showed promise in the pre season friendlies. Mata was our two time player of the year but benched and sold because he didn't fit Jose's opinion of a #10. You both seem to be fans that can see no wrong in Jose even after he left our club 1 point from relegation. I can maybe understand this because your both Portuguese and want to support Jose as your countryman.

Also calling another Chelsea fan mentally retarded is quite weak. I would personally never call another fan that. Why dont you show some more class next time mate and Im sure the mods will give you a warning. But looks like you will cheer for Jose no matter what so once he gets appointed as Man Utd's new manager I will be glad you go and support the man and not our club.

Mata has lost form in early 2013 and hasn't been anywhere near the same since.

KDB fair enough, but Mata has shown nothing to suggest selling him was a mistake, infact last season he only got 4 assists, Oscar and Willian have got critisised for low numbers but for a supposed creative genius to only get 4 assists in a season is awful.

[Jase 43,479]

Mata has lost form in early 2013 and hasn't been anywhere near the same since.

KDB fair enough, but Mata has shown nothing to suggest selling him was a mistake, infact last season he only got 4 assists, Oscar and Willian have got critisised for low numbers but for a supposed creative genius to only get 4 assists in a season is awful.

When it comes to talking about Mata at United, people like to ignore the fact that he hasn't played in his best position and that he's always being used wide, under Moyes and Van Gaal. Oscar - in the No.10 position, his best position - hasn't even come anywhere close to matching Mata's performances, goals and assists when he played in that same role for us.

[Tomo 21,733]

When it comes to talking about Mata at United, people like to ignore the fact that he hasn't played in his best position and that he's always being used wide, under Moyes and Van Gaal. Oscar - in the No.10 position, his best position - hasn't even come anywhere close to matching Mata's performances, goals and assists when he played in that same role for us.

He was number ten in second half of 12/13 when he started to go off the boil.

Also, out of position is an excuse to a point, but not for how much he's gone off the boil. Anelka, Modric, Azpilicueta, David Silva, Bale, prime Ivanovic, were played out of their best positions and did well.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

Don't know what had till its gone and all that jazz player wise.

[yipo 56]

lol mourinho back to rm will rape by barcelona again, better go mu or other easier league

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

lol mourinho back to rm will rape by barcelona again, better go mu or other easier league

I need a translator for this

[Jase 43,479]

He was number ten in second half of 12/13 when he started to go off the boil.

Yes but you're talking as if players don't lose their form.

Also, out of position is an excuse to a point, but not for how much he's gone off the boil. Anelka, Modric, Azpilicueta, David Silva, Bale, prime Ivanovic, were played out of their best positions and did well.

I take your point but different players have different adaptability. Not everyone can excel in different positions (don't think I would use Modric, Silva, Bale as examples) and for every player you mentioned above, you could probably name a few who works better in a certain position than others.

[Tomo 21,733]

Yes but you're talking as if players don't lose their form.

I take your point but different players have different adaptability. Not everyone can excel in different positions (don't think I would use Modric, Silva, Bale as examples) and for every player you mentioned above, you could probably name a few who works better in a certain position than others.

I noticed it especially because I went away for 2 months between the Reading game and Saints game and watched all games inbetween in one go pretty much (full games) and one of the things I noticed was how much he dropped off, it probably had a fair bit to do with burnout in his defense but he was every bit as poor in that period as Cesc has been this season.

An on the second point fair enough, however his flaws were still obvious even in his prime for us, but one thing that was widely known as Matas strongest point was his final ball and assists, even out of position under AVB he was still assisting, and with 4 last season, Oscar and Willian get slated for having similar low numbers in a season

The main point of what I responded to Parky tho was the fact he criticised Jose for letting Mata go, it might have been painful on a personal level letting him go especially there, but on a footballing level for me it defiantly wasn't a mistake and £37m was a steal for us.

On a side not it wouldhave been intersting if Mata went before KDB, Salah came in and played a lot of games as the 5th attacking midfielder, so De Bruyne might have got a fair bit of game time too, so maybe he would have stayed if Mata went first.

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I need a translator for this

I think it's probably worse that I can actually read it just fine!

[stroey 2,525]

"Today we had a lot of bad luck. First, [Nemanja] Matic's penalty was a result of bad luck, with the ball hitting his hand; Watford's second goal took a deflection and got in and I missed the penalty by the end of game. I think we didn't deserve to draw, we deserved to win but that's how football is."

Regarding José Mourinho's sacking, Oscar revealed a few interesting things, including hints at what may have been actual discord inside the dressing room between "some" players and the manager. But for him, it's time for the players to move on.

"When the results don't come it's quite difficult. A lot of players start to get changed in the line-ups and some of them don't like this situation, but now the moment is gone. We have to keep our heads up, move on and get the results that we need."

-Oscar; source: ESPN Brasil

Willian also offered his thoughts on José Mourinho's dismissal, saying that the players should only focus on playing football and adapt to Hiddink's way of work after Mou's departure.

"These decisions are made by the board; we as players must only think about playing football and adapt to the oncoming manager. So we are adapting to Guus Hiddink's work [at the moment]."

"[Mourinho] never looked to bring in any issues from the outside to the dressing room. He never was that kind of manager. Unfortunately things weren't happening the way we were looking to."

-Willian; source: ESPN Brasil

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/12/27/10669128/oscar-willian-reaction-chelsea-watford-mourinho

[Laylabelle 9,351]

Just seen on BBCJose Man United scarfs being sold...they seem convinced..not sure why anyone buy one unless was actually announced.Weird

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[Laylabelle 9,351]

If he goes there fair enough but if not what would you do with it?!

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

I wouldn't really resent him if he goes to United, same as i don't resent Big Pete going to Arsenal.