The Mourinho Thread

[Footballover 222]

This year I realised one important thing - we will never conquer the world with Jose Mourinho. In order to be the best there is we have do be a dominant side, we can't rely on Jose's counter attacking / defensive tactics and modern football will agree with me. Ten years ago teams just didn't know how to handle it, nowdays it seems we don't know either.

In this second Mourinho spell all I hoped for is that he will be able to transform us to this kind of team, a team that plays a fluent, attacking and entertaining football, a team that dominates each opposition and a team that its home is no less than a fortress. It really looked like we were going the right way at first, 2013/14 was a rebuilding season and we progressed as the season went. We reached our peak in the middle of 2014/15 and in this point I thought we were on the right track to the very top of world football... But the critics were right, the speculations aboud Mou's second and third seasons turned out to be true and who knows, maybe he could of changed things if he had been given the time, but I don't think any club in any situation similar to ours would have kept him. Nothing can justify our situation and even if the manager is not completely at fault, it is absolutely clear that he is no martyr.

Maybe all of this is for the best, maybe we can finally let go of the Jose Mourinho cloud that hung over this club for the past decade. Every manager that came here tried to justify the fact that Mourinho was sacked in 2007, maybe his second coming and PL trophy are a closure for him in the history of this club.

I can't be happy with letting him go, he is a legend in this club and always will be remembered as such. I wish him all the best in the future and hope he knows how much the Chelsea fans love him. I won't celebrate it and I won't cry, what needed to be done is done now, c'est la vie, Jose Mourinho - the special one.

[Fernando 6,453]

Roman Abramovich had to sack Jose Mourinho, says Jamie Carragher

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10102776/roman-abramovich-had-to-sack-jose-mourinho-says-jamie-carragher

Pretty much what I believe as well. No other option here but to sack the manager then sack the entire team.

No one who runs a modern club would do otherwise.

[bellion 170]

The guy has invested a ton of money and seems willing to do more and for that I am grateful.

But if you think he's a lifelong fan like us then you're deluding yourself. If you're looking for a lifelong fan who put their money into the club they supported then look at the names of our stands....here's a clue, he's name wasn't East, West or Shed.

Roman has done amazing things for this club, and he seems to enjoy owning the club but I think we have to be realistic.

If being one of us means being a lifelong fan, Mourinho wouldn't qualify either.

In fact, it's Roman who has been at the club longer than Mourinho.

Using personal biasness to determine who is a real fan and who isn't smacks of the very delusion and lack of realism that you are pointing out.

[Special Juan 27,422]

SSN reporting Hiddink is in a hotel in talks with officials.....

[Stats 7,053]

Form is temporary Class is permanent.

The way some of our fans treat our legend with no respect like this proof that We may deserve no Class.

And anyone that think he wasn't our legend was totally should disgrace yourself.

The way some fans treat Hazard is disgusting as well. Hazard's performances have been poor but this is a player who was heads and shoulders above everyone in the league last season and rightfully so, won the POTY award and several other individuals honours too from club and non-club related matters. The 'form is temporary, class is permanent' concept should be really applied to Hazard. Instead of people supporting him and hoping he gets back to his best, which I hope he does, I have seen several people say if he and co start performing, it shows that they have no class etc, were not playing for Jose. I would like to see people get behind Hazard. Because it has been a difficult few months for him so far after an amazing season and some of the comments I have seen on Hazard has been disgusting.

I think people need to realise that if we are going to progress this season and beyond that, keeping Hazard will actually be pivotal.

As for anyone stating Jose was not a legend, I think you came to that idea on your own. I have not seen one person say that on here. I think he is a legend and I appreciate what he has done for us and he will always remain a true Chelsea legend but was it right for him to go? I say yes. I think everyone else who wanted Mourinho to go is in the same camp. We all know he is a Chelsea legend but now the decision has been made to move on which I beleive is the right one.

[Special Juan 27,422]

Hiddink arriving at the airport.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3365554/Chelsea-captain-John-Terry-posts-emotional-Thank-doesn-t-message-Jose-Mourinho-stars-look-glum-arrive-training.html

[Ossie the King 634]

If being one of us means being a lifelong fan, Mourinho wouldn't qualify either.

In fact, it's Roman who has been at the club longer than Mourinho.

Using personal biasness to determine who is a real fan and who isn't smacks of the very delusion and lack of realism that you are pointing out.

Mourinho developed a relationship with the fans which is why we sung his name relentlessly. His personality both reverberated and informed the existing personality of the Chelsea support. Roman simply hasn't done that, nor has he made any attempts to engage with the fans. In fact the one time he needed to do that in 2011, he tried to steamroller the very fans who SAVED this club 30 years ago.

That stuff actually matters on a personal level, whether you accept it or not.

The way some fans treat Hazard is disgusting as well. Hazard's performances have been poor but this is a player who was heads and shoulders above everyone in the league last season and rightfully so, won the POTY award and several other individuals honours too from club and non-club related matters. The 'form is temporary, class is permanent' concept should be really applied to Hazard. Instead of people supporting him and hoping he gets back to his best, which I hope he does, I have seen several people say if he and co start performing, it shows that they have no class etc, were not playing for Jose. I would like to see people get behind Hazard. Because it has been a difficult few months for him so far after an amazing season and some of the comments I have seen on Hazard has been disgusting.

How about we apply that concept to both parties? And to Matic, Cesc, Costa et al?

I think people need to realise that if we are going to progress this season and beyond that, keeping Hazard will actually be pivotal.

As for anyone stating Jose was not a legend, I think you came to that idea on your own. I have not seen one person say that on here. I think he is a legend and I appreciate what he has done for us and he will always remain a true Chelsea legend but was it right for him to go? I say yes. I think everyone else who wanted Mourinho to go is in the same camp. We all know he is a Chelsea legend but now the decision has been made to move on which I beleive is the right one.

That camp obviously has to believe that because they've ultimately got what they want but I think there's a hardcore of support who feel betrayed. They put their voices firmly behind Jose every matchday (and I've seen them catch some stick on here for that which is laughable) and the club have disregarded that.

I think betrayal is perhaps the best word for the way a lot of fans are feeling and there's a gradual realisation that the club that they once had has disappeared. The problem is that a lot of those fans are also amongst the CPO and there will be a reaction when the club comes to them.

Out of interest, if you're a CPO member what is your feeling on the matter?

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

The way some fans treat Hazard is disgusting as well. Hazard's performances have been poor but this is a player who was heads and shoulders above everyone in the league last season and rightfully so, won the POTY award and several other individuals honours too from club and non-club related matters. The 'form is temporary, class is permanent' concept should be really applied to Hazard. Instead of people supporting him and hoping he gets back to his best, which I hope he does, I have seen several people say if he and co start performing, it shows that they have no class etc, were not playing for Jose. I would like to see people get behind Hazard. Because it has been a difficult few months for him so far after an amazing season and some of the comments I have seen on Hazard has been disgusting.

I think people need to realise that if we are going to progress this season and beyond that, keeping Hazard will actually be pivotal.

As for anyone stating Jose was not a legend, I think you came to that idea on your own. I have not seen one person say that on here. I think he is a legend and I appreciate what he has done for us and he will always remain a true Chelsea legend but was it right for him to go? I say yes. I think everyone else who wanted Mourinho to go is in the same camp. We all know he is a Chelsea legend but now the decision has been made to move on which I beleive is the right one.

Then why do you not treat Jose the same way? He won the league last season and in his career he has won every major trophy. You can literally apply your exact post to Jose Mourinho who fans on here have been treating like shit all season.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

The way some fans treat Hazard is disgusting as well. Hazard's performances have been poor but this is a player who was heads and shoulders above everyone in the league last season and rightfully so, won the POTY award and several other individuals honours too from club and non-club related matters. The 'form is temporary, class is permanent' concept should be really applied to Hazard. Instead of people supporting him and hoping he gets back to his best, which I hope he does, I have seen several people say if he and co start performing, it shows that they have no class etc, were not playing for Jose. I would like to see people get behind Hazard. Because it has been a difficult few months for him so far after an amazing season and some of the comments I have seen on Hazard has been disgusting.

I think people need to realise that if we are going to progress this season and beyond that, keeping Hazard will actually be pivotal.

As for anyone stating Jose was not a legend, I think you came to that idea on your own. I have not seen one person say that on here. I think he is a legend and I appreciate what he has done for us and he will always remain a true Chelsea legend but was it right for him to go? I say yes. I think everyone else who wanted Mourinho to go is in the same camp. We all know he is a Chelsea legend but now the decision has been made to move on which I beleive is the right one.

Then why do you not treat Jose the same way? He won the league last season and in his career he has won every major trophy. You can literally apply your exact post to Jose Mourinho who fans on here have been treating like shit all season.

Stats, I like you... But checkmate

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Jose Mourinho will make Chelsea regret sacking him, says agent Jorge Mendes (Sun) #CFC #MUFC

Rob Beasley: "Man United, he would love it. Imagine Mourinho walking out in front of the Stretford End, giving them the pump fists." [bBC]

[the wes 7,212]

Jose Mourinho will make Chelsea regret sacking him, says agent Jorge Mendes (Sun) #CFC #MUFC

Rob Beasley: "Man United, he would love it. Imagine Mourinho walking out in front of the Stretford End, giving them the pump fists." [bBC]

the bookies fancy mourinho to be the next utd manager

[LDN Blue 7,903]

As a desperate fan, I know there will be no Third Coming. You parked the bus and burnt your boats. You gave Chelsea more trophies than we dreamt of and then we woke into a nightmare: placed sixteenth with our manager blaming Leicester's ball-boys. So take some time off now, Jose. See your family and get your priorities straight. And if one day you regret what happened, rest assured that there's a father in west London who got to spend precious afternoons with his young daughter because she wanted to be taken to Chelsea and watch your magic and madness unfold on the green in front of her.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35129915

Moving.

[Jase 43,479]

New poll...

[Pizy 18,368]

Jose Mourinho will make Chelsea regret sacking him, says agent Jorge Mendes (Sun) #CFC #MUFC

Rob Beasley: "Man United, he would love it. Imagine Mourinho walking out in front of the Stretford End, giving them the pump fists." [bBC]

*sigh*

Would completely kill me.

[Ossie the King 634]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35129915

Moving.

Just to add the except above the one you posted:

I believe it was a terrible mistake for the club not to view this season as a write-off and start to rebuild a new squad around you. Somebody once said to me, "The problem is that Chelsea doesn't have a Beckham," in other words a single figure who symbolises the team. But we did. It was you. As Lynette tells her ex-husband Tom in a moving scene in Desperate Housewives, it was always you.

Now I disagree with the Beckham bit because the symbol of United was Ferguson, possibly Giggs or Scholes, but Jose was a symbol of Chelsea. When we needed someone to look to, it was him. When opposition fans needed to slag us off, he took the majority of the shit.

It's hard to express how reassuring it was to be in the stands and turn to see Jose in the dugout. He was the focal point, he was the name we sung and he was the person we looked to and supported. Not what do we do? Look to the middle tier of the West Stand?

Do we look to the pitch to see Didier or Frank? Only JT remains and he's been hung out to dry by the players around him at times and even some of those fans who write him off.

We've decided to let go of the biggest personality at this club, one of the biggest icons this club has ever had and we've got FUCK ALL to replace it with, and nary a plan to find a new one. But that pales into insignificance because TV ratings for our matches in Djibouti might drop a couple of points.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Mourinho's next club? I'm sticking my neck out and going with Valencia.

[Fernando 6,453]

Well now that's he gone I have to say my favorite moment under the second stint of Mourinho is this: