The Mourinho Thread

[Tautvix 1,321]

So it's not Cesc...

Hazard?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34708509

LOL...

Every player will say it's not him... Nobody will say in public it's me who said I'd rather lose than win for this coach...

[nowhereman 7]

EXCLUSIVE: Jose Mourinho will be sacked if Chelsea fans turn against him

CHELSEA'S fans are keeping Jose Mourinho in his job - for now.

Billionaire owner Roman Abramovich knows his under-fire manager still has the supporters behind him.

That has helped convince him to stick with the 52-year-old despite the champions' woeful form which has seen them pick up just 11 points from 10 Premier League games this season.

But if fans begin to turn against Mourinho following another poor display, against Dynamo Kiev in the Champions League tomorrow, it could spark his axing.

There was even more woe for Mourinho today when he was hit with a stadium ban by the FA and left facing legal action from former team doctor Eva Carneiro.

But he has been told that as long as he keeps the fans on side his job is safe.

A source close to Abramovich said last night: "Roman's well aware the supporters are still behind Jose and if he was to sack him it would a very unpopular decision with most of them.

"Honestly nobody knows what he will do and how long he will let this go on.

"But if the fans start to turn against Jose it will make it a whole lot easier for him to get rid of him."

Supporters sang Mourinho's name throughout Saturday's 3-1 home defeat by Liverpool and there were no boos at the final whistle, despite a third loss in seven days.

Yesterday Starsport revealed how Abramovich was anguishing over how long he can let the Chelsea crisis go on before he dumps Mourinho.

Mourinho's problems mounted today with his ban and a £40,000 fine after being sent off last month at West Ham for using abusive language towards referee Jon Moss.

He will be banned for Saturday's trip to Stoke.

Earlier in the day it was revealed he is to be the subject of an individual legal claim from Carneiro.

That comes in addition to the action she is bringing against the club for constructive dismissal.

Legal papers are set to be served this week.

It means Mourinho will have to appear in person at an employment tribunal unless the case is settled first.

Under employment law, an individual can be personally liable for damages if victimisation or discrimination can be proved.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/473478/Chelsea-Jose-Mourinho-Eva-Carneiro-Roman-Abramovich

If Mourinho's worshippers are really the main reason why he hasn't been sacked as suggested by the article, I now want him to stay more than ever just to see how long it will take for even them to get fed up with his antics/football. And no, I don't believe he can change himself and turn things around.

[ZOS 580]

the first step to solving a problem is admitting there is one. It is not due to a mere lack of good luck we're where we are. That's the single most troubling thing about our situation. People are blinded by their affection for Jose to see there is actually an error to be corrected in his approach as a manager.

[Miki-Liki 405]

They know when Mourinho is gone Chelsea will become half the force they once were

Are you even serious? Really mate?

Incredible, just incredible.

[Essien19 1,415]

I agree. But some thing has to change... whether it is the manager or his way of doing things, it's Jose's choice. He has to make a decision ASAP

Some decisions took a lot a lot of time, maybe Hazard, Fabregas and Ivanovic (before his injury) could have been benched earlier.

But now, he is more ruthless, Matic, Hazard, Fabregas they are all feeling the heat now,

their place has been put under the microscope.

In my point of the view, the overall style of play is evolving and getting better, yes, the setbacks aren't over yet, sometimes they hit us very hard. I prefer to look at the positive aspects and getting a draw against Newcastle after being 2 down or taking the lead against Pool isn't so bad.

Yes, the player's mentality hasn't been fully restored yet, but we're getting there.

Long story short:

Mourinho does make the necessary changes at least now, the team is getting better at scoring goals, yes, the organisation needs to get better quickly, but overall i can see clear signs of improvement.

What else could you expect?

More controll and a constant killing spree, but i cut Mourinho some slack, because we aren't talking about a machine, which you simply can turn on or off.

If we're that bad during boxing day, the outcome will be different, then we have to analyse the situation very carefully and maybe Mourinho should get the sack then.

But we aren't there yet, therefore i continue with my support and trust towards the players and Mourinho.

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

FABREGAS

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Can i categorically deny that I have been the leader of a plot against the manager. This word leader means nothing to me and it would also mean I would have to organise and talk to people and I don't like to do that. I prefer to sit back and contribute occasionally and after Christmas forget it man i'm already thinking about my Summer holidays.

Wow this typing is hard work I'm off a snooze Adios.

[Essien19 1,415]

Are you even serious? Really mate?

Incredible, just incredible.

I don't think that Mourinho has lost his way.

A bad spell is nothing good, that makes us turn against each other.

Maybe Mourinho can't turn it around, even if, he is (for me) still one of the best coaches in the world and his knowledge of football is incredible. When you take that away, it's difficult to replace, i know there exist other good coaches, but to find another one as good as Jose Mourinho isn't a simple job.

Ancelotti made us play good attacking football and winning some trophies, but only short-term.

Scolari (world cup champion) and Villas-Boas (Europa-League winner) weren't able to deliver anything.

Di Matteo won us two big trophies, but he couldn't rebuild and evolve, that's something Mourinho is better at,

but he is no god, sometimes he struggles too.

Sad, but if the time ever comes, i would like to get someone young like Villas-Boas, but less arrogant

(didn't use Drogba to prove a point, lol).

Maybe Thomas Tuchel can get the job done, he is tactically fantastic, fresh and gives good talents a chance, look at Weigl and guys like Mkhitaryan or Gundogan are back on track again.

Especially Mkhitaryan is now able to score goals, maybe he can do the same with Willian, who clearly has the abilities.

But that's for the future, today i pray that Jose Mourinho will turn it around.

[Styles 9,790]

I saw something online that suggested perhaps somebody from Mourinho's camp has put the quote about 'losing rather than win for Mourinho' out there.

I genuinely wouldn't put that beyond Mourinho / his camp.

[nullabletype 987]

LOL...

Every player will say it's not him... Nobody will say in public it's me who said I'd rather lose than win for this coach...

Well he could say... nothing. If he really was the person behind the supposed comments he could simply not comment. Also, it would hardly seem likely Cesc is leading a dressing room revolution while his wife is tweeting support for Mourinho.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/11/3/9662608/moupocalypse-now-ancelotti-makelele-dream-team-lippi-not-ready

Sign all past it Italian Managers now!!!!!!


Now we miss only the Trapattoni rumours.

I'm still betting on Arrigo Sacchi to make a comeback for us.

[bethos1 802]

Matter of taste. I personally love physical old-school football which involves defending. Can't imagine us playing with army of dwarfs doing tika-taka 80% possession. It's just silly. Defending is as beautiful art as is attacking, it just requires some insight knowledge and experience to recognize it. How come Atletico aren't boring? They're just as defensive counter-attacking team as we are and we're rumored to be looking at Simone? So in that sense you're right, its the mentality that's keeping us back. And it really doesn't matter who it is or why he is trying to sabotage our squad, our manager, it's unacceptable. Could you imagine this kind of behaviour in an office type of work environment, unthinkable. Whoever it is, has to be gone on the second transfer window opens.

That's fine but we don't have the players to play physical so why even try? If Mou can't adapt to these players he should just leave.

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

Press conference today at 12 30 I would like Jose to stop looking and sounding like a bitter, beaten, angry man. A nice calm boring presser, with little drama.

I would also like the club to come out with a statement re backing Jose to cool the raging media fire with regard to his impending sacking, - if only to stop the media running away with wild untruths, that do damage to the club.

I dont want it to be like last time when the next conference features Bruce Buck sat next to a fat sack of shit saying ''Avram will take us to the next level''. Jesus. We're better than that.

[stroey 2,525]

Roman Abramovich still believes in Jose Mourinho and WILL give him more time, says Andriy Shevchenko

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/roman-abramovich-still-believes-jose-6756931

Hope this is true

[stroey 2,525]

what's up with him? Suddenly so much support for Jose

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Roman Abramovich still believes in Jose Mourinho and WILL give him more time, says Andriy Shevchenko

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/roman-abramovich-still-believes-jose-6756931

Hope this is true

Give him more time and sack him in 2 months would only hurt us even more, what i would do is, send some kind of marriage counselor in the dressing room/give a earful to the players who aren't even trying. José seems unable to come out of this hole, so maybe some help from the outside is needed.

[stroey 2,525]

Give him more time and sack him in 2 months would only hurt us even more, what i would do is, send some kind of marriage counselor in the dressing room/give a earful to the players who aren't even trying. José seems unable to come out of this hole, so maybe some help from the outside is needed.

I agree, giving him 1-2 more months as ''deadline'' would hurt us and insult Jose even more. You either give him full support for a year or just let him go, this ''1 week/month to save your career'' thing is torture. Look at Klopp, he said it himself, he never felt pressure that he would be sacked, that's why he could turn the season around.

[Changingman_2000 876]

I don't want to appear sexist here, but Eva had a considerable fan base due to the fact that she is fucking stunning. Jose going off on one at her on the touchline could have been easily offset, by laughing it off post match and making a heartfelt apology. Sadly Jose and 'apology' don't go hand in hand. May be a small piece in the collapse, but his treatment of her was unbelievable.....and then he drags it on.

Some of our players clearly witnessed it and must have been thinking "what the fuck?"

[Essien19 1,415]

Roman Abramovich still believes in Jose Mourinho and WILL give him more time, says Andriy Shevchenko

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/roman-abramovich-still-believes-jose-6756931

Hope this is true

That's very good news, indeed, friend.

I think Shevchenko is a personal friend of Abramovich, finally his former purchase pays off.

Shevchenko showing his true colour, blue through and through.

The timing seems perfect!

Who knows it better than one of his former players?

I have seen Shevchenko at Stamford Bridge in recent times, i like the idea of him being an adviser to Abramovich.

Now bring the presser on, need to back our coach and send a statement to these fuckers from DailyFail and so on.

We protect and take care of our own (when they stay put).

Nowadays, that's the Chelsea way. :blue scalf:

[ZOS 580]

Some decisions took a lot a lot of time, maybe Hazard, Fabregas and Ivanovic (before his injury) could have been benched earlier.

But now, he is more ruthless, Matic, Hazard, Fabregas they are all feeling the heat now,

their place has been put under the microscope.

In my point of the view, the overall style of play is evolving and getting better, yes, the setbacks aren't over yet, sometimes they hit us very hard. I prefer to look at the positive aspects and getting a draw against Newcastle after being 2 down or taking the lead against Pool isn't so bad.

Yes, the player's mentality hasn't been fully restored yet, but we're getting there.

Long story short:

Mourinho does make the necessary changes at least now, the team is getting better at scoring goals, yes, the organisation needs to get better quickly, but overall i can see clear signs of improvement.

What else could you expect?

More controll and a constant killing spree, but i cut Mourinho some slack, because we aren't talking about a machine, which you simply can turn on or off.

If we're that bad during boxing day, the outcome will be different, then we have to analyse the situation very carefully and maybe Mourinho should get the sack then.

But we aren't there yet, therefore i continue with my support and trust towards the players and Mourinho.

OK, so you think there are improvements. Cool, we can opt to disagree and leave it at that. But for the sake of clarity, for I want to understand your POV, let's break things up a little finer here

1) Do you admit that Jose has erred (as has the board and the players)?

2) If so, what exactly did he do wrong in your view and what is he doing to amend it?

3) Don't you think it is an insult to Chelsea fan's intelligence blaming everything/anything but himself?

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

Wall to wall coverage in the media and not just the sport spages.

What do they say about all publicity is good publicity ?

Not bad for a little club founded in 2003 in Fulham