The Mourinho Thread

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Or maybe just a sheer natural central midfielder? He's shown all the qualities to be a perfect midfielder for the future, (Number 8 esq) and a 4-2-3-1 isn't going to help him develop into a position that is natural for him.

4-3-3 is what we should be looking for.

with you.....my only issue is that is he the one or is he ready to have a system and team built around him?

England u21 think he is special and I hope Mourinho thinks so too....but of course we have others fighting to be the same. Mourinho ( if he stays) will have to make a tough choice with RLC by the end of the season. Lets hope its one where he can be the future of Chelsea and possibly future captain

[Pacquiao 1,834]

I don't think so. Not if that youth player has potential. RLC is gold, he won't be ignored especially when our first team players are below average. Mourinho has favourites, the interim does not. That's why Fabregas is an untouchable regardless even if he sits on the pitch like a lemon.

"Trophy winning side..." We are NOT a trophy winning side now. We are a relegation side. He has to change it up! And no, criticising the players to the media isn't the best way. Blaming on everything but himself isn't the best way.

This is the perfect time to integrate youth because we aren't winning, and he's not even doing that properly. Plays RLC for 50 minutes, and he is never seen again until like 10 matches later.

And about stellar signings, that all depends. If we are keeping Mourinho, certainly because he doesn't trust the youth enough. Anybody else that isnt Mourinho, personally it has be a world-class player and not a potential one for me to start singing (and that's if we are not replacing an already good youth player).

how do you know we wont win a trophy this season? youre not god, you cant predict the future

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

with you.....my only issue is that is he the one or is he ready to have a system and team built around him?

England u21 think he is special and I hope Mourinho thinks so too....but of course we have others fighting to be the same. Mourinho ( if he stays) will have to make a tough choice with RLC by the end of the season. Lets hope its one where he can be the future of Chelsea and possibly future captain

A partnership with Neves (should we pursue) would set up for a spectacular future spine for the team. Two Ruben's

[Pacquiao 1,834]

I said "NOW" as in, currently. No way we'll be winning trophies in this current form. It's not possible. Nice try though on turning this back on me.

so how do you know that? last time i checked in 2012 we were also in horrible form in the PL and won the FA Cup and CL, Youre not god, you cant predict the furture

[Rhino's Skin 972]

so how do you know that? last time i checked in 2012 we were also in horrible form in the PL and won the FA Cup and CL, Youre not god, you cant predict the furture

i wouldnt waste your time and effort with this one because facts don't mean anything but speculation and looking into a crystal ball is the way forward

[Pacquiao 1,834]

But in 2012, we had warriors and characters. This season, we are spineless and gutless most of these games. And in 2012, we never been in a horrible form as bad as THIS. Stop comparing to 2012.

Yes I'm not God, and I can't predict the future but history shows that a team that has been in this worse form hasn't gone on to win anything. If we somehow win anything by the end of this season, that's because our form must have improved. We can't even string 2 straight PL wins/2 straight CL wins together.

Wigan won the FA Cup and got Relegated the same season...

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Good article :

http://www.squawka.com/news/jose-mourinho-chelsea-self-preservation-society/501912

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

They won it because they got consecutive wins for that competition. You are only going to win trophies if you get consecutive wins in that same competition.

But you don't know if we're going to get consecutive wins in the FA cup

This is football for a reason.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

But in 2012, we had warriors and characters. This season, we are clueless, spineless and gutless most of these games. .

hate to introduce facts with your posts as I know you struggle with them, but

JT, Cahill, Ivanovich, Ramires, Mikel all played big parts in 2012...yup warriors back then and still here....add to the mix players like Costa and Willian who are not exactly gutless and spineless.

just saying like

[Rhino's Skin 972]

...and if you have paid attention to what I said, if we do somehow, that's because our form must have improved. Our current form will not win us trophies, we can't win consecutively in a competition yet.

but we can win 3 games on the trot regardless of competition

[Rhino's Skin 972]

I guess you think humans are like robots. Okay.

"my hovercraft is full of eels"

actually I think footballers are time warped across the interstellar world of many galaxys to confuse and trick brains like yours into saying the most ridiculous things.

Thank gawd Mourinho is our Doctor Who and can hopefully make sense of them.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Really, everyone should read that fair and balanced Squawka article I posted by Greg Johnson. Mourinho fans will have serious problems refuting that. Bang on the money on most of his points.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I guess you think humans are like robots. Okay.

So because he came up with a decent response you just slate his opinion instead....

There is no reason for someone to lose their character because they are a few years older. This team should have won the last 3 games comfortably, played like it even, but we've been denied and we'll have to live with it for now. We will start winning very soon, I'm certain of it.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

I guess you didn't understand what I meant by that comment. Nonetheless, speak for yourself.

actually it was tongue in cheek as I thought yours was.

Didnt think the robot comment was serious to be honest

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I only came up with that answer because he was also slaying me saying things like I'm struggling with facts. But obviously you didn't see that because you are siding with him and Mourinho. So yeah.

And yes they do lose their ability when they get older. Maybe they still have their character in their minds, but their bodies won't make them go that far like it used to.

Mikel is 28, Rambo is 28, JT still has it, and Cahill is in his prime. And we have the French incredible Hulk, Costa, Willian, and Dave who give absolutely everything they can irrespective of the context the match is in.

I did read the facts jibe just now. Sorry, wasn't aware of that.

[Tomo 21,754]

Making a youth argument for keeping Mourinho?

That is hilarious

No one is saying Jose is the best in the world in that regard but people go over the top at how "bad" he is.

If Pellegrini gave Patrick Roberts 3 starts and regularly include him in the 18 at this stage like Mou has done for RLC, the same people slating Mou would be in the English football thread prasing Pellegrini to high heaven for slowly introducing a gem.

If any other manager threw on a 17 year old in a title decider like Mou did, constant praise.

He was the one who integrated Mikel, Varane and Zouma, yes they cost but price tag didn't make AVB play Lukaku or Fergie play Zaha. He also played Hugh despite having Terry, Gallas and Carvalho, if Pel played a young CB semi regularly with Kompany, Mangala and Otemendi available he would again get constant praise.

He could have done better regarding youth in his career for sure, but people widely exaggerate it.

[Tomo 21,754]

But in 2012, we had warriors and characters. This season, we are clueless, spineless and gutless most of these games. And in 2012, we never been in a horrible form as bad as THIS. Stop comparing to 2012.

Yes I'm not God, and I can't predict the future but history shows that a team that has been in this worse form hasn't gone on to win anything. If we somehow win anything by the end of this season, that's because our form must have improved. We can't even string 2 straight PL wins/2 straight CL wins together.

Yes we were, after beating City in December we won 4 games in 15 in the league, in 10/11 we won 4 in 14 which included a 1 in 9 run in that spell, 12/13 we went SEVEN games without a league win and only 2 wins in 12 in all comps, one of which was after extra time vs United ressies, so if we count 90 minutes we only won once in 12, and to extend further that was a last minute winner.

The only difference now is the run is happening at the start so it's showing in the table, but those runs mentioned were just as catastrophic and damaging as this one, and that was with all the old guard in (bar Drogba on 12/13).

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Regardless of where you stand on Mourinho, the 'stability' argument is a very weak one. The man almost personifies volatility and instability!

[Tomo 21,754]

Anyway back to Jose Mourinho.

My brain says he should remain until the end of the season, unless 1) by miracle we actually turn it around or 2) this current form continues for months then boom, sack.

But honestly, my heart says he must go now. But not for the reasons most of you are thinking. Now before you go all "MOURINHO HATER!" on me, I am really not a hater of Mourinho. At his best, he is a genius. But he has lost it so far this season.

He needs a year off football. When his head is right, maybe we can get him back but it definitely looks like he needs a year off football. Mourinho is a human just like us, we don't know what's going on in his personal life. There is one problem that we all know though, it's his father's illness. And we all know, the media and the FA isn't helping him one bit, in fact they may make it worse for Mourinho. The stress of Chelsea losing, "what if I get the sack?", the Eva incident and the negative media is building inside of him. That has to explain why he is so negative at the moment. He is not handling the pressure well.

Mourinho needs to sit back, reflect and sort out all his problems. Come back to football refreshed. I'm again, not a hater of Mourinho, in fact this shows that I actually care for Jose Mourinho.

Two seasons ago, he came back to the PL as "the happy one". Now, he is "the moaning one" in many people's eyes. Where is the happy one? I want the happy one back!

People want what's best for the club, and while some think Mourinho is the best for the club and some think not, how about what's best for Jose Mourinho for a change?

"Love" is nothing in football now people say. I agree with them to some extent, but before Mourinho's second spell, we saw some hints that Mourinho still cared for Chelsea. That's love right there. And I'll always respect him for it. Yes I did express my anger towards Jose before calling him childish and all, but that was before I opened my eyes - he was childish mind you, but I didn't see the real reason why. If there is a way, someway for him to take a year off football and him coming back to us as manager, I'll take it.

Tbh that doesn't sound a bad idea in theory, but can you imagine that idea being put to Jose to take a year or two off and come back in summer 2017? Not to mention the fact that the 'stand in' could (unlikely but possible) revolutionise the club like Jose himself did in the mid 00's, how could we let him go.

It would take an expert negotiator for him to potentially even consider it for a second.

[stroey 2,525]

Jamie Carragher has had his say on Jose Mourinho's position at Chelsea, insisting he is "too good" and shouldn't be sacked

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10047240/jamie-carragher-on-why-he-would-not-sack-jose-mourinho-at-chelsea