The Mourinho Thread

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

  On 21/10/2015 at 19:45, Amels said:

No. I call people who think that the current squad shouldn't be changed just because they "like" certain players blinded as Mourinho. If Guardiola came (which I don't think he will, but just for the sake of the argument) I'd be more comfortable in him choosing his players than in Mourinho doing anything significant with the current ones. If we can strengthen the squad why should anyone be "untouchable"? That's my only point.

So, are you a "Guardiola worshipper"?

Can you see the point i'm trying to make?

[Essien19 1,415]

  On 21/10/2015 at 19:16, Jason said:

Find that to be a bit of a nonsense, no disrespect. You're judging some of the players there by their current abilities and making assumptions that Guardiola will just toss them aside. For all we know, he might take those players in his stride and actually help them to get even better - technically, tactically, mentally etc.

That's your right and not a bad thing, otherwise we all would be "yes-man".

Yes, i have made assumptions, perhaps they are wrong, turning on the discussion isn't a bad thing.

Maybe Guardiola changes with his approach, who knows, but against Arsenal Bayern Munich made over 600 passes,

Arsenal around 200?

For such amounts, you need technical ability and with all due respect, can't see Zouma, Matic and maybe Azpilicueta doing it.

Yes, players can improve, but technically? I doubt it, sorry.

Guardiola benched Martinez, for him he isn't a midfielder anymore, now he has to play as a central back.

Yaya Toure had problems too, not everyone can adapt to that task.

I don't watch that much national competitions, but during the world cup 2014 Azpilicueta looked in my point of view really poor.

Not as bad as Lukaku for Belgian, but he wasn't up for participating in that style of play, he is better without the ball.

Klinsmann famously said that every day he will make most of his players better, that backfired pretty bad.

Making the players consistently better is difficult, i'm just cautious with such demands...

Mourinho is also trying to make his players better, last season he accomplished it, but now, he has got big problems.

In the long run he will get back, another assumptions by me, sorry.^^

I hope that you are right, but you have to come up with good counter arguments, otherwise we have to wait and see.

[bethos1 802]

  On 21/10/2015 at 16:13, Essien19 said:

It's only fair to make demands, when you are in the driver's seat....who decides who comes and goes?!

I don't think Jose Mourinho has the final say.

After the transfer of Papy Mourinho stated that he didn't know the player, it seems to me that Baba wasn't his idea too, i think that says it all.

That was one of the reasons why he parted ways with Chelsea 2007 (ask Robben, he didn't want him to get sold) and is one of the reasons why Guardiola is most likely to leave Bayern at the end of the season (i'm just the coach, can't make transfers and the club knows how i will decide)

...

Do you think Mourinho enjoys this kind of shit that's going down here?!

Is he really so convinced of himself, that an academic and proven winner let his judgement clouds by emotions?

Is he asking himself every day in front of the mirror; how can i be the villain again?!

Surely most of the stuff he tells the media is utter garbage and he knows it too, a man who is able to say things like

(envy is the biggest tribute shadows can do to a man) in a foreign language for him isn't plain stupid!

Maybe it's time for a little trip...

I often eat an fried egg with spinach and vegetables, for getting that done i don't need new fancy ingredients, i don't have to run to the supermarket therefore i save time and most importantly i don't need a new playbook, sorry i mean cookbook.

Simply, the effort keeps within limits but the result is the same; 3 points, sorry i mean fat belly.

Theoretical assumption: i don't have a job and my girlfriend demands a spectacular meal because their family is going to be in town,

but she only gives me little pocket money, but i have to be a good boy and make the most of it, otherwise a cruel punishment is coming...

Should i stick by the stuff which i know or should i go guns blazing and risk it all?

Keeping in mind, that some of the ingredients can't keep up with the taste of the unaffordable ones if a take choice number 2.

Everyone is entitled to have a different opinion about that, for example my father would stick to the first, because he doesn't like to take risks which look like a suicide mission.

My mother seeks the risk, boring is not enough, even if the job would be done and now everything is in shambles because of number 2, lol.

The prices for some ingredients happen for a reason, without some basic quality, only a magician could make it work.

Who is in possession of a magic ward?!

I don't have a problem with Guardiola but instead of making Hojbjerg, Kimmich, Gaudinio great, he often chooses to use Alonso and so on.

Who did he harvested in about ~3 years?! I don't see any new ingredients from their home garden...

Klopp is one of the best coaches in business, but apart from flashes (using championship players like Kirch against Real Madrid, no disrespect meant) without class he can't do it consistently.

Long story short: Give Mourinho guys like Alaba, Stones, Varane (the list goes on) and the form will begin to take shape,

otherwise there will be times where it won't be pretty.

I can only speak for myself, but i like the differences in the style of play and the definition "proper football" is not catholic.^^

It's a specialty from Wenger to justify his constant failure by stating he is still playing proper attacking football for most of the time,

but not during the decisive moments.

No harm meant.

I'm not saying it's all Mourinho's fault but with the team that we have we should be able to play better than we have been playing and I'm not only talking about this season. And with proper football I don't mean play like Arsenal or like Bayern, etc... Is it too much to ask of Mourinho to keep us playing like we did in the first half of last season? The way we have been playing since January is imo not acceptable, sure winning is more important but come on we should expect more from our squad.

[Stats 7,084]

I still can't help my self to stop my anger at Mourinho for letting KDB go. What sort of ludicrous decision that has turned to be. I remember all the Belgians on here such as Stingray and others who were saying when he came back to us from his loan spell at Werder Bremen that he was going to be a star for us. And he let him go ffs. So fucking deluded, especially when you consider the fact that the man he put faith in as his no.10 at the time, he seems to have lost trust in him now :rant:

[couris 232]

Maureen has managed to make Mata, KDB, Hazard, Oscar look like shit. Legend Maureen.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

  On 21/10/2015 at 20:53, couris said:

Maureen has managed to make Mata, KDB, Hazard, Oscar look like shit. Legend Maureen.

KDB is embarrassing him badly atm. Imagine the egg on his face if he scores against us this season.

[Clockwork 1,794]

  On 21/10/2015 at 21:07, Gilvorak said:

KDB is embarrassing him badly atm. Imagine the egg on his face if he scores against us this season.

You think Mou will survive until end of the season?

[Shaan 263]

  On 21/10/2015 at 20:53, couris said:

Maureen has managed to make Mata, KDB, Hazard, Oscar look like shit. Legend Maureen.

dont forget salah,schrulle, cuadrada.. and most likely pedro :ph34r2:

[Essien19 1,415]

  On 21/10/2015 at 20:11, bethos1 said:

I'm not saying it's all Mourinho's fault but with the team that we have we should be able to play better than we have been playing and I'm not only talking about this season. And with proper football I don't mean play like Arsenal or like Bayern, etc... Is it too much to ask of Mourinho to keep us playing like we did in the first half of last season? The way we have been playing since January is imo not acceptable, sure winning is more important but come on we should expect more from our squad.

We got battered by Spurs last year, maybe that was the turning point for the tactics last season, if i remember correctly.

Overall the play of style wasn't pretty but even the second leg against PSG, we almost made progress, lost it because of defending.

Is it the right way?!

I prefer a different style, way too reactive, "whoever has the ball is going to make a mistake", having around ~30% of the ball is debatable.

We have experienced a bad start to the campaign, the next game we kick-start the season, that's a vicious circle, absolutely deadly.

Difficult task, but better times will come.

[DDA 9,771]

Is Jose single handedly destroying us with each transfer window..

We were meant to be building for the future.

Jose only cares about his own success not the clubs.

This is where Jose differs to Sir Alex Ferguson.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

  On 21/10/2015 at 22:32, DDA said:

Is Jose single handedly destroying us with each transfer window..

We were meant to be building for the future.

Jose only cares about his own success not the clubs.

This is where Jose differs to Sir Alex Ferguson.

Yes, buying Zouma, giving chances to RLC, buying Matic, buying Diego, buying Willian has destroyed us

Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. Take your fucking blinkers off and look around you.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

The "sold our future for a league title" has to be one of the funniest i've ever read
I ain't even mad. The drama levels are on a high level.

[Rmpr 8,977]

  On 21/10/2015 at 22:32, DDA said:

Is Jose single handedly destroying us with each transfer window..

We were meant to be building for the future.

Jose only cares about his own success not the clubs.

This is where Jose differs to Sir Alex Ferguson.

Dude, dont you think you are overreacting just a bit?

[Essien19 1,415]

  On 21/10/2015 at 22:32, DDA said:

Is Jose single handedly destroying us with each transfer window..

We were meant to be building for the future.

Jose only cares about his own success not the clubs.

This is where Jose differs to Sir Alex Ferguson.

Before Jose we played some fancy stuff, but without structure.

Some games "mazacar" run riot, other games they kept quiet and we lost.

Despite of his behaviour, Frank Lampard is an absolute legend for me and no one can deny his ability to lead the team to glory.

Apart from Lampard we lacked leadership in midfield, Mourinho solved that problem quickly by advising to get Matic and Fabregas.

Instead of Cech we have Courtois, Azpilicueta is one of his soldiers, Zouma gets more and more playing time, Matic and Fabregas are having problems, but that happens, they made us Champions,

Mourinho made Hazard player of the year and one of the best in the world, Willian is playing some great stuff during the calendar year, Costa is a warrior who knows how to put it in, Loftus-Cheek has no experience, but Jose gives 19 year old boy chances,

let that sink in!

So how is he destroying the club?!

Luiz 50 mio., Mata ~40 mio., Lukaku ~30 mio., "Sherley" no loss, de Bruyne should be here, but he was/is an arrogant prick,

you can't work with everyone, i know that feeling, it's utter shit, but i am no better: "who is without sin cast the first stone"

(have fun boys)....

Without Jose we won one championship with these world-class players, Jose brought back the winning spirit and we are current Champions, but the mood here is depressing, in the first moment i think about ungratefulness, but now i know it better, it's Joses fault, he set the bar that high, it's like Messi, when he isn't scoring >90 goals during a calendar year some people criticize him,

he is that good.

Mourinho isn't allowed a handful bad games, let alone a whole season...

What is the "specialist in failure" thinking about that?!

I think he is laughting all the way to the bank, because keeping up to these standards is nearly impossible, lol.

Jose puts himself out there and fights for the club and the supporters, he always shows passion and he truly wants to be here.

He has earned so much money, he could go everythere but he still chooses to be with us, simply one of us, true legend of the club.

He really wants to build a dynasty here, but you have to let him do that.

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 21/10/2015 at 18:42, Amels said:

Brilliant. Seems like Mourinho's love affair with sticking with the same ol' players has rubbed off on his fans and worshippers, too.

Who's your favroite person to ever represent Chelsea? Can be a player or a manager.

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 21/10/2015 at 22:32, DDA said:

Is Jose single handedly destroying us with each transfer window..

We were meant to be building for the future.

Jose only cares about his own success not the clubs.

This is where Jose differs to Sir Alex Ferguson.

As shown by the superb team Fergie left his successor with

[Essien19 1,415]

  On 21/10/2015 at 23:45, Tomo said:

As shown by the superb team Fergie left his successor with

He wanted that last Championship pretty bad to go out with a bang.

Therefore he bought Van Persie, nearly 30 and injury prone as fuck.

He got rid of Pogba, like Mourinho he can't stand some type of players, that's life, shit happens.

Some people here would call that destroying the club in the long term.

For me Ferguson has always been an arrogant prick who enjoyed being the man.

He is a winner and 100% committed to the club, similar as Mourinho.

[the wes 7,212]

John Terry, 34, believes the club have "the best manager in the world" in Mourinho despite their difficult start to the season under the Portuguese. (Sky Sports)