The Mourinho Thread

[cosmicway 1,333]

Was it invasion of the pitch then ?

Like that Spaniard Jimmy Jump who was chasing Figo in the Greece-Portugal euro final ?
So the system is a) Mourinho says to the physios "invade" or Mourinho says to the physios "don't invade".

Even so, the poor rascals did n't have time to confer with him or he with them. When Jose starts jumping in disapproval, Eva has reached the centre circle. As for "appreciation" we all know that the players of the team who want to hurry it up don't feign injury - so if someone goes down it's got to be for real.

I did n't like the reaction either. The war was not won by soldiers reacting to the commands of comrade Stalin.
So what might be better than a mutual apology ?
We are in danger of going to City and losing 25-0 but if peace is reestablished we might as well reverse that.

[the wes 7,212]

the media are get on the same way about hazard kicking a ball boy ffs they are bunch of drama queens ffs

[11Drogba 2,000]

She just gave Mourinho an excuse. Mourinho can sell the best player of the previous two seasons to a rival if he wants to. I don't think she had any future at the club even if she did not post something to facebook.

I think the worrying thing is it is his third season and he started throwing hissy fits again.

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Okay I know tensions are high at the moment, but lol what?!

How can one of the most successful managers of this century be referred to as narcissistic and toxic? Sure, it remains to be seen how long he will stay with us [despite his claims he'll be here for a prolonged period of time], but that by in no means makes him a toxic. He's not like Fergie, for example, who leaves an aging bone-dry squad to the next coming manager. He lays down foundations for a manager to build upon if anything.

Yea, his approach to the game is unorthodox at the best of times. But so was Clough.

Most CEOs and leaders are narcissistic and in a few instances sociopathic. To lead you have to have a high opinion of yourself and illustrate to those that follow that your confidence cannot be shaken.

Look at some of worst people in history that were able to captivate large following they all were narcisstic and in some cases megalomaniacs. (I.e Hitler Stalin, Koresh, Manson etc. All dispicable human beings yet they were able to have many followers because they held unflappable conviction and people as a whole will follow these people in a flock mentality.

Clearly I'm not equating Mourinho to them but rather illustrating how much a dominant figure he is after all look how many people think he is above criticism and will label anyone who criticizes him as not a true Chelsea fan.

As for toxicity Mourinho has never stayed anywhere for a long not because he can't but because he burns bridges and makes enemies because he's blunt and doesn't give an F. He's too much Sonny and not enough Michael Corleone.

I'm not an Eva devotee or other such nonsense. I just don't understand airing out dirty laundry or scapegoating while refusing to take responsibility.

[Parky 739]

So this sets a dangerous precedent for any future Chelsea first team medical staff during games.

*If a Chelsea player is down or injured you must first seek approval from the first team manager before assisting the player even if the game referee is waving you on for medical assistance.

*If you break this club policy you will be called out and shamed by the manager on live broadcast while also being demoted from your position and benched. This policy stands even if it is in breach of your medical code of conduct and thr extensive training you have undertaken.

I respect Jose and our club but clear they have got this one completely wrong and it looks like the shit has hit the fan and may backfire on their faces.

[CMS 382]

This is not a game for sissy and wussies, where your parents come running into the field because you got tripped. Even American youth soccer players have more mojo than what she's trying to create at Chelsea. Get real guys. Hazard was the most fouled guy in the league and he was hardly protected by the refs, but he still played. Those guys were out of shape and were sucking air since the pre-season. They need to play through it to get their second wind back. That's the only way to do it. How many times did you see the other teams physios running into the soccer field like it was some amateur youth football Sunday event?

I would have liked to see that during my days. My dad would have whopped your ass and sent you back in the field to go defend yourself. I remember the ref even asking me in a snide remark, during one game, if I was going to sit there and be bullied all game long. He just couldn't take it anymore and keep protecting me. Patrick Viera would have fuvked you up by now.

Grow some balls and stop all these whining. This is man's game. Go try that ish in the Championships, or with Italian defenders in Italy and see what happens. Even American players have grown more balls than some of our pampered whinny little biatches. Get over it. JM is the coach. If that's what he wants on his staff. Deal with it.

She is becoming a distraction, and she needs to stay in the background and do her job. Since when do we have to watch a Doctor run into the field of play every five minutes to enjoy our Chelsea team. I'm so sick of this and our people buying into this DM charade. I guess some people have short memories, where we were getting two coaches per season. Nonsense. We need to rebuild this team and build a dynasty. We still need players and get everyone in shape and we are worried that won't see Eva on TV screens on the weekend.

Either support Chelsea or go support some purse carriers. Enough already. Damn!

Eva is ok and not all that beauty wise. I like her and she's also my FB friend, but this nonsense needs to stop. She's a doctor, then be a fucking doctor. The last time I saw my doc, who is also a gaddamn cutie, it was in a small tiny room and not on Youtube.

[1chelsea 864]

This is not a game for sissy and wussies, where your parents come running into the field because you got tripped. Even American youth soccer players have more mojo than what she's trying to create at Chelsea. Get real guys. Hazard was the most fouled guy in the league and he was hardly protected by the refs, but he still played. Those guys were out of shape and were sucking air since the pre-season. They need to play through it to get their second wind back. That's the only way to do it. How many times did you see the other teams physios running into the soccer field like it was some amateur youth football Sunday event?

I would have liked to see that during my days. My dad would have whopped your ass and sent you back in the field to go defend yourself. I remember the ref even asking me in a snide remark, during one game, if I was going to sit there and be bullied all game long. He just couldn't take it anymore and keep protecting me. Patrick Viera would have fuvked you up by now.

Grow some balls and stop all these whining. This is man's game. Go try that ish in the Championships, or with Italian defenders in Italy and see what happens. Even American players have grown more balls than some of our pampered whinny little biatches. Get over it. JM is the coach. If that's what he wants on his staff. Deal with it.

She is becoming a distraction, and she needs to stay in the background and do her job. Since when do we have to watch a Doctor run into the field of play ever five minutes to enjoy our Chelsea team. I'm so sick of this and our people buying into this DM charade. I guess some people have short memories, where we were getting two coaches per season. Nonsense. We need to rebuild this team and build a dynasty. We still need players and get everyone in shape and we are worried that won't see Eva on TV screens on the weekend.

Either support Chelsea or go support some purse carriers. Enough already. Damn!

Eva is ok and not all that beauty wise. I like her and she's also my FB friend, but this nonsense needs to stop. She's a doctor, then be a fucking doctor. The last time I saw my doc, who is also a gaddamn cutie, it was in a small tiny room and not on Youtube.

Live to like that again. "She is becoming a distraction, and she needs to stay in the background and do her job. Since when do we have to watch a Doctor run into the field of play ever five minutes to enjoy our Chelsea team. I'm so sick of this and our people buying into this DM charade. I guess some people have short memories, where we were getting two coaches per season. Nonsense. We need to rebuild this team and build a dynasty. We still need players and get everyone in shape and we are worried that won't see Eva on TV screens on the weekend." Wet dreamers go kill yours

[11Drogba 2,000]

Dude, give up. They don't know how the grownups world works. They're probably filling their all FB pages now with all their cute feelings and if/when they get a job in a slightly big company they'll probably throw a tantrum when they read the social media policy... Don't try to explain economy or electricity Putin's physics to a child, they don't have the tools to understand it...

Not related at all. This is a football club where everyone has his/her own fans, no relation to the big companies and their employees you talk about. She did her job and thanked for the support after being criticized in front of cameras for doing her job.

Grownups do not throw hissy fits and blame others when they don't win btw.

[Polo7 3,496]

Not related at all. This is a football club where everyone has his/her own fans, no relation to the big companies and their employees you talk about. She did her job and thanked for the support after being criticized in front of cameras for doing her job.

Grownups do not throw hissy fits and blame others when they don't win btw.

Are you a grown up? Because it sounds like you are having a hissy fit. Just saying....

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I disagree with many points, but since you're tired, let's agree to disagree then.

Yeah there was no point carrying on with the discussion as I was asleep by 10pm last night But the world would be a boring place if we all agreed on everything.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

Not related at all. This is a football club where everyone has his/her own fans, no relation to the big companies and their employees you talk about. She did her job and thanked for the support after being criticized in front of cameras for doing her job.

Grownups do not throw hissy fits and blame others when they don't win btw.

Grown ups do however attempt to isolate the input from the outcome in order to consider what helped you win and what didn't. I'm not saying anything you don't know when I observe that, win, loose, or draw, in commerce, sport, or whatever, it is necessary to assess individual contributions and judge whether that person/machine/system contributed positively or otherwise; whether or not future chances of success will be enhanced by similar performance levels. Read your own posts and you'll see that this is exactly how you judge Chelsea's displays and you are sensible to do so.

Making such judgements is a continual process. If managers are as sensible as you, they won't allow winning or losing to distract them from it. If something needs fixing then you fix it. Indeed we've all heard Jose being strongly critical of his teams in victory, and we've also heard of him doing so during half time even when they are leading. It's not about hissy fits. Any person in a management role is not only entitled to critically assess the of members of her/his team, it's her/his responsibility to do so. Having said all of that however...

I do not agree with Jose this time. It seems to me that he has behaved badly but I don't see that it is wise for me to attempt to substitute my judgement for his. Especially since my own ideas are almost certainly based on incomplete information. Trusting someone is being prepared to back their judgement even when it differs from yours. I trust Jose.

[11Drogba 2,000]

Grown ups do however attempt to isolate the input from the outcome in order to consider what helped you win and what didn't. I'm not saying anything you don't know when I observe that, win, loose, or draw, in commerce, sport, or whatever, it is necessary to assess individual contributions and judge whether that person/machine/system contributed positively or otherwise; whether or not future chances of success will be enhanced by similar performance levels. Read your own posts and you'll see that this is exactly how you judge Chelsea's displays and you are sensible to do so.

Making such judgements is a continual process. If managers are as sensible as you, they won't allow winning or losing to distract them from it. If something needs fixing then you fix it. Indeed we've all heard Jose being strongly critical of his teams in victory, and we've also heard of him doing so during half time even when they are leading. It's not about hissy fits. Any person in a management role is not only entitled to critically assess the of members of her/his team, it's her/his responsibility to do so. Having said all of that however...

I do not agree with Jose this time. It seems to me that he has behaved badly but I don't see that it is wise for me to attempt to substitute my judgement for his. Especially since my own ideas are almost certainly based on incomplete information. Trusting someone is being prepared to back their judgement even when it differs from yours. I trust Jose.

Do you think he would give the same reaction if we were winning and have beaten Arsenal? I wish he was different this time but it is the third season and his tantrums started again.

P.S. I am not going to respond to belieber type of weirdos, so stop quoting me.

[1chelsea 864]

All you wet dreamers trying to back Eva and don't want see reasons due to your thoughts when the time comes you will learn a thing or two. She can't be the Golden F F

[Spike 12,049]

I don't have an opinion on this because I don't care enough to.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

the season is only a week old, cant wait till Jose gets going properly.

Bottom line...Football is a circus - a big show for the masses run by corporates.It's corrupt.It's full of liars and cheats. It's full of hypocrites and back stabbers. It's not real life

Sit back and enjoy the show but don't take anything other than what happens on the pitch seriously. We all have bigger problems in our real lives.

Exactly. We were all bored to death during the off season. Nice to see some drama once again. Oh I love Chelsea...

[The Skipper 20,609]

For me Jose is in the wrong here, yeah Eva has stoked the flames with her FB post but Jose did not have to publicly criticise the medical team especially when it's their job to do exactly that.

Apart from the FB post Eva hasn't done anything wrong but Jose has unnecessarily blown everything out of proportion and now every single back page will be dominated by this absolute non story. Disappointed at both of them, but more so at Jose.

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

The physio has always been a popular figure at Chelsea with the fans. In Eva's case because lets be honest she's a fine looking woman. But in the 80's and early 90's our physio was a bloke called Norman Medhurst who looked like Freddie Mercury and the Shed would sing '' Norman give us a wave'' and he always would. He was a real cult figure at Chelsea and from what i've heard from people who've met him a top bloke.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

Do you think he would give the same reaction if we were winning and have beaten Arsenal? I wish he was different this time but it is the third season and his tantrums started again.

P.S. I am not going to respond to belieber type of weirdos, so stop quoting me.

What is belieber?

It would not be reasonable for either of us to ask others to stop quoting our posts. When we post, we make an opinion available to the TC audience. Others may want that same audience to see a counter, or sometimes supporting, argument. Quotes are just as much a way of addressing the point(s) being made as they are a way of addressing the poster.

I do not know if Jose would have reacted in the same way had we had better results in this or preceding games. I can only say that I hope not since, to repeat, it seems to me that he has behaved badly. What I hope most though is that whenever he sees a problem, he will attempt to address it and that is what he seems to be doing. As to whether his judgement is correct or not, it's his decision to make so if he says there's a problem, then there is a problem.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Put yourself in her shoes for a moment: she was ultimately criticised for doing her job. Let's cut everything else out and just focus on that for a moment. Now, is a thank you to people showing her support a crime?

In any company, she would be fired for even less stupid things than that. If a nurse in the hospital undermines the authority of one of the head doctors she will face the consequences according to the contract agreement.

Vangaal said Valdés wasn't training hard enough, Valdés went to twitter to post pictures of him training with the under 18 team to prove he was wrong, then vangaal signs Romero the following week as retribution. But its not Mourinho or Chelsea(the most hated club in the world) so it won't sell in the papers.....

[ZOS 580]

the media are get on the same way about hazard kicking a ball boy ffs they are bunch of drama queens ffs

then why does Jose give them a reason all the fucking time? I'm tiered of this drama queen. Why can't he just get on with his job like other managers?