The Mourinho Thread

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Mourinho is responsible for this whole circus.

Losing his shit because our medical staff were doing their job.

Publicly criticizing the medical staff. He could have just deflected the question but no he had to go and make it into the shitstorm it has now become.

I don't really see much wrong with Eva's post. She thanked people for their support on the matter. Not exactly like she told Jose to f*** off.

Some of the arguments are ridiculous.

"People wouldn't care about this if she wasn't a hot/popular women" : Such bs. I can honestly say that i would feel the exact same way about this if our club physio was a fat, bald guy.

All the feminists can also crawl back under the rock they came from as Jose would have reacted the exact same way if it were a guy. Gender played no part in this circus.

This is about right or wrong not man or women.

"Jose is the best manager ever while Eva is just a physio. she's replaceable, he's not." : Utter crap this. This isn't about who's more replaceable or who has more power.

Again, this is about right or wrong.

"She shouldn't posted that tweet on facebook (or twitter or whatever)" : Well guess what, when you publicly criticize a person they might not like it, like at all.

It's the same thing when your boss tears you a new asshole in front of your colleagues or if your parent berate you in front of your friends.

Nobody likes getting criticized but getting criticized in public just adds a whole new layer of embarrassement to the mix.

All this s*** should have just been kept and dealt with in-house.

[Stingray 9,441]

No but the corporate business Chelsea FC is.

From the academy (sic), to the megastore, it is all about maximsing profit and efficiency. People here now are in moral turmoil, and the dilemma for the manginas is clouded by the fact the 'victim' has tits and a minge.

Not for me. The ultra-corporatism is a true issue in the club i love. I do not want to go this road. No super exell management. I want feels and a long term project.

[Fulham Broadway 17,311]

Not for me. The ultra-corporatism is a true issue in the club i love. I do not want to go this road. No super exell management. I want feels and a long term project.

Well people better get used to it being a business with football attached. Aint gonna change anytime soon with all the TV revenue.

The only alternative for people is to support their local grass roots clubs where they live.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

She wants a public apology and considering suing Jose

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3195658/Jose-Mourinho-stands-firm-Chelsea-won-t-reinstate-Eva-Carneiro.html

Really hope this is not true, as it would be one of ugliest mess of our season so early in. Jose starting cold war again :/

[Amblève. 4,995]

This whole Carneiro thing is so stupid, pointless, and unnecessary.

[HD3D 1,038]

Of course the media are it, they love it, but for one second think about this.....A player is down and needs attention, the medical staff rise from their position and dart on the field, following that they are completely chastised for doing their job, in public and in front of a world wide audience. Who is at fault here?

The manager's argument is that the player never needed nor asked for medical attention in the first place.

[gr123 167]

The manager's argument is that the player never needed nor asked for medical attention in the first place.

In which case why wasn't Hazard given shit for his actions? The ref twice waved in the medical staff, what we're they supposed to do?

Don't get me wrong, I love Mourinho for obvious reasons but at times he's a knob and an embarrassment. Would be nice to see a season without a PR disaster for the club, couldn't even manage a day.

[iseah100 5,612]

He said nothing sexist. She needs to chill.

[ice-boy 165]

8 news for this "row" fucking 8. stupid DM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/index.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-medical-staffs-treatment-appalling-6242129

Mourinho continues to have the backing of Chelsea hierarchy.

It is believed the controversy at Stamford Bridge last weekend was the far from the first time that Mourinho has been unhappy about his medical team.

Chelsea have yet to confirm who will take the places of Carneiro and Fearn on the team bench for Sunday’s game at Manchester City.

But it is understood the club will confirm this week that they were unhappy withCarneiro’s decision to acknowledge the support she had received over the row on Facebook.

[nullabletype 987]

That's really ignorant from Martin Samuel. Yes, players do go down late on in matches because they are knackered but just because that's the case most of the time, it doesn't mean players don't pick up injury from such situations. How can he, Mourinho or anyone else be sure that Hazard didn't get an injury, especially when he's the player who gets kicked most of the time? If Hazard had actually picked up an injury but wasn't treated at the time and something happened to him later, then what - we would be pointing fingers at others, no? It's just like I said yesterday, Mourinho wouldn't have made a fuss about this if we were winning the match when Hazard called for medical attention but because we weren't, he decided he needed something (or someone in this case) to divert the attention away from the result and performance.

You're correct, José probably wouldn't have complained if we were winning. I believe that's the entire point...

He said, which is what the piece by Martin Samuel acknowledges, that he wants the medical staff to have awareness of the game. Having awareness would be not coming on to the pitch after an innocuous incident when he needs all hands on deck. The piece points out, I think correctly, that José doesn't require a medical degree to tell a horrendous challenge from a light one. That's a fairly straight forward footballing decision. There's no point acting like every challenge should be treated equally by medical staff when we know they don't come on for every issue. I mean 9 times out 10 we can usually differentiate for ourselves sitting at home watching it. So no, he wouldn't complain if we were winning, because he'd want the medical staff to come on and run the clock down, and he expects them to understand this.

[Barbara 15,149]

Or maybe she actually was just thanking fans for their support? She has a huge following and the positive support she got must have been overwhelming. You have no idea as to her intentions, so please stop pretending like you do.

And the club like most companies in the world have social media guidelines. Yes, it was passive aggressive and not something your employers expect from you (doing your laundry publicly through social media) . This circus has been caused because of her reaction. Had she said nothing the media would have already let it go. But she had to say that, the club and not Mourinho, took a decision and the bad PR continues.

Mourinho WAS wrong to talk about it. But a lot of lies has been said on this thread for people to have yet another reason to criticize him beyond what happened. He NEVER blamed the performance and dropped points on that. He was asked a straight question and he answered. The videos of his reactions show how pissed he was the EXACT moment they got into the pitch, before the free kick, before any potential consequences and the end of the match. That was his true reaction not deflection...

He should have avoided answering the question, as he does when he wants. That's his one mistake here. He didn't blame her, he didn't deflect anything, during the actual post match press he acknowledged some things, he admitted the bad result. If he wanted excuses he would have mentioned the red card, which did cost us. Unlike many here he has a working brain, if he wants to find excuses, he'd given a buyable one, not some half arsed insignificant episode.

Then the media and most people here transformed it into a circus. People criticize DM journalists, but they should have a reality check because they write even worse shit here and would do as bad if they worked there.

Also, Mourinho's power in the club isn't what people make it out to be. He personally probably doesn't give two fucks about what she said, but in all honesty in the world, how many other docs and phisios in the last 12 months made it to the media in a negative way as Chelsea's? Maybe the power to be got tired of her actions in the pitch making the headlines every few months. The social media teenager behavior must have been the last straw, but let's blame it all on Mourinho and decide that he's been the person that took her job requirements away because that's what managers do, right?

She doesn't even report straight (or in any form) to him. She's a Chelsea FC employee and while Mourinho could tell his superiors to go get another one because she's not up to his expectations, it's still a club decision, not his. This is not like his assistants, but I'll overlook some comments because I'm positive many here has never even stepped on a real life company, let alone a world wide one like Chelsea. They're obviously talking about things they don't remotely have a clue about.

[ice-boy 165]

95% of TC members

[Amblève. 4,995]

The good news, I guess, is at least nobody's talking about our performance vs Swansea. Mission accomplished, Jose.

[the wes 7,212]

why dont we ask eva to be are next manager ffs i wish people would back off and leave mourinho alone

[Kish9 50]

So Mourinho can publicly embarrass his medical team infront of the whole world but people are having an issue with Eva thanking people for support and good messages? If a manager at work from a different department had a go at me infront of everyone just because i was doing my job, why would it be an issue if i thanked people for sending me their support?

Some people on this forum cant see past trophies, makes me womder if they know right from wrong no matter what status Jose or Eva have in the club.

[Kish9 50]

The good news, I guess, is at least nobody's talking about our performance vs Swansea. Mission accomplished, Jose.

I would rather everyone criticise the players for a week than the club be tainted for a very long time.

[Jase 43,479]

The good news, I guess, is at least nobody's talking about our performance vs Swansea. Mission accomplished, Jose.

Never mind that, nobody is talking about what happened elsewhere in the Premier League last weekend, such as Arsenal's (hilarious) defeat for instance. Everything has been on Eva/Physios/Mourinho since Monday!

[the wes 7,212]

instead worrying about eva we should be thinking about the city game

[Jase 43,479]

instead worrying about eva we should be thinking about the city game

Part of Mourinho's master plan, no one is talking about our form heading into the game...

[Pizy 18,897]

If we lose to City hopefully José farts in Pellegrino's face and we'll have another nice controversy to distract us from the result.