The Mourinho Thread

[Irakozium257 350]

Hi!

Sorry to not answer you before, I had not read your post so far. Apologies.

I also thought it was insurmountable the attack of the Spanish press sensationalism against Mourinho, but seeing the sensationalist / disgusting attitude of the British press against Jose sport, I start to wonder what is the worst press.

The case of Spain is more complex because Mourinho was the coach of Real Madrid againts Guardiola`s which was formed by the majority of players that formed the Spanish team that won the European Championship and the World Cup. So many journalist attacked Jose because he ended with the hegemony of Barcelona in Spain and I was the first coach who win Guardiola`s Barcelona and he sank to Spanish players like Xavi, Pique and Busquets. Therefore, journalists saw in Mourinho a danger to the Spanish team.

But there were more important factors and is related to xenophobia in Spain against the Portuguese. For historical reasons, the Spanish and Portuguese nationalist have always been at odds, and many journalists used Jose as an excuse to criticize Portugal.

In Spain there are many of us who takes this as a joke (myself for example not waste my time to attack Portuguese or defend Spaniard, simply I enjoy the live), but other people in Spain are obsessed with the history of Spain and xenophobia attacks.

Many Spanish journalists made impossible the life of Jose and his family in Spain. With a totally unacceptable daily persecution.

For example, the newspaper AS public the training schedules of the Jose`s son, just so people could go to insult and threaten Jose`s child. Even Jose had to hire security for his child. It was embarrassing. In addition, sports newspapers published photos of the daughter of Jose, but Jose asked to let her in peace

The Spanish sports press / journalist are miserable

In addition, the Spanish journalists accused Jose of violent coach, defensive coach, they said that their players were indoctrinated to attack rivals ... The same garbage that now say the journalist in England, but much more exaggerated because at any stadiums of Spain people screaming at him Jose 'Mourinho death" or "Jose Mourinho son of a bitc " all the time with a hatred, rather than athletic, personal hatred, as if people in football stadiums Jose knew personally. This in England is quite impossible to pass, perhaps may jeer Jose, but that personal persecution is impossible to see in England.

I think the English journalists are copying the strategy of Spanish journalists to attack Jose. This is because Jose is not a submissive coach. He does not accept having to kneel before the mighty football as do others like Pellegrino or the loser of Wenger.

Jose is a passionate guy who defends his team above all else, even ahead of himself.

In addition, the British journalists have seen the large amount of money that have earned by Spanish journalists present to Jose as the villain of the movie forever. In Spain everything bad was because of Mourinho, even the economic crisis.

In Spain recently has died a violent / radical fan near the stadium of Atletico Madrid in a battle between skinheads, and many journalists have said that this was the legacy of violence by Mourinho. SHAMEFUL

I think Jose has seen that the English press has begun to use the same strategy of the Spanish press, and I think Jose has decided to stop these attacks and dealing with the press before these attacks end up in a situation like him paranoid happened in Spain.

I have said that Jose is losing its ironic smile perhaps because he feels totally misunderstood. Jose is already a legend in the Premier League, and many fans will respect him as a legend, but journalists and FA still insist attack him.

I think he feels misunderstood and I think the best thing we can all do is to support him. Jose is one of us and we have to support him unconditionally.

I support unconditionally Jose, the great majority members of this forum also support him unconditionally Jose, and the great majority of the supporters of Chelsea Jose we support wholeheartedly.

We all do this because Jose defends us UNCONDITIONALLY

All together we will win this war against journalists and FA

Defend Jose is defend US

Because

Jose is one of US

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

Thank you very much for the reply. I didn't expect nor wanted you to go that much in depth with it, but I'm eternally grateful for it. I guess him being Portuguese and potentially dominating the best Spanish league was fuel to those miserable journalists' hatred against him. One last question, if you don't mind: Would you say that Cristiano sold his soul to the devil that is Madridismo at the time of Jose's feud with Casillas, so that there couldn't be any suspicion about him supporting his countryman?

[Irakozium257 350]

While, I can't really go as in-depth as the brilliant Supporter has done, I'm not Spanish and my understanding of the language is pretty rudimentary, there is a pretty good movie on Youtube that explains Mourinho's tumultuous relationship with the press in Spain. It's long, but it's pretty interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XEQX2lSbW0

Thank you very much, ma man. I'm not being superficial by saying that I'm gonna watch it with full curiosity! Cheers!!

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Thank you very much for the reply. I didn't expect nor wanted you to go that much in depth with it, but I'm eternally grateful for it. I guess him being Portuguese and potentially dominating the best Spanish league was fuel to those miserable journalists' hatred against him. One last question, if you don't mind: Would you say that Cristiano sold his soul to the devil that is Madridismo at the time of Jose's feud with Casillas, so that there couldn't be any suspicion about him supporting his countryman?

Hi friend!

For me, Cristiano Ronaldo had a horrible behavior with Jose in his the last year at Real Madrid. I would say Cristiano Ronaldo betrayed Jose incomprehensibly.

It's a long story. Ronaldo arrived at Real Madrid in 2009, a year before Jose, and Madridismo not want you to him. The Madridismo is a very demanding hobby (very disloyal in my opinion), especially with foreign players, and they spent the first year of Ronaldo at Real Madrid beeping him and not recognizing their statistics (before Ronaldo came to Spain it was impossible that a player would make more than 40 goals per year). In short, the Madridismo attacked Cristiano Ronaldo with contempt.

The atmosphere in Spain with Ronaldo was also quite rude. In all stadiums all rival fans shouted him "That portugues, that son of a bitch is".

However, when Jose arrived at Real Madrid he made Ronaldo the Real Madrid star. Without Mourinho probably Madridismo would never have accepted Cristiano Ronaldo.

Ronaldo had many confrontation with Casillas because the Casillas's girlfriend, a famous journalist in Spain, said: "Cristiano Ronaldo is pimp and arrogant". And even in Spain was commented that they almost stick by this comment.

Jose did everything to help Cristiano Ronaldo.

But finally Casillas and some Spanish players like Sergio Ramos, were united against Jose and campaigned with his friends journalists (many personal friends) against Jose. And in that moment so important for Jose, Cristiano Ronaldo preferred to betray Jose and get to support Casillas.

In Spain many people criticized the attitude of Cristiano Ronaldo and Pepe (Pepe in Spain was called Hyena and murderer until Jose defended him). They behaved like freeloaders to rather betray Jose to maintain its spectacular salary at Real Madrid. At the end many players were put against Jose and the team was unmanageable.

For me, Cristiano Ronaldo was a traitor. First I was faced with Casillas, after Jose defended Cristiano Ronaldo and betting everything for him and finally, when he intuited that Jose could leave Real Madrid, Cristiano Ronaldo preferred to betray Jose, saying all kinds of inappropriate comments about Jose, and Christian Ronaldo became friends with Casillas.

Jose had trouble at Real Madrid because Real Madrid is a team of stars, Drama queens. With many players who do not control their egos. It is a completely abnormal situation.

If a coach at Real Madrid asked summon the players of Real Madrid the day before a match in a hotel to make players not go to partys, the players of Real Madrid organized a riot against the coach. It is outrageous. Real Madrid players behave like childrens.

I will give you an example. Real Madrid has an agreement with Audi for which, apart from sport the logo of Audi in newsrooms and others, Real Madrid players have to take any official event of Real Madrid the Audi car. Instead, players staged a mutiny against Pellegrino and got that instead of taking cars Audi, they could bring their Ferraris and Lamborghini.

However, when Jose arrived at Real Madrid he said: "The player who does not take the car of the Audi brand to official events will be fined and will not let them in to the sports city of Real Madrid and Santiago Bernabeu with a car of another brand. "

Players heeded Jose and they used Audi since. Instead, now the players of Real Madrid lead back their Ferraris and Lamborghini. They manage the coaches at their own whim. And Jose never allow anybody to handle him.

The players of Real Madrid is ungovernable for any coach with a minimum of discipline. Not only Jose.

In summary. Ronaldo's attitude against Jose was disgusting. A filthy, own a small child treason because Cristiano Ronaldo is like a small child who cries constantly to be embraced by their daddies.

Many people say that Jose failure at Real Madrid and that is false. Before Real Madrid was a mediocre club and is now a TOP team. And that's thanks to Jose.

I remember when Ricardo Carvalho left the Real Madrid I said: "At Real Madrid players have childish behavior I had never experienced anything like it in my career Chelsea also had great players, but they behaved professionally, without egos and.. thinking about his companions and his team. Real Madrid is different, a team with stars with much ego. Jose no failure in the Real Madrid ".

To my Carvalho is an honest person, and what he said is very similar to what I think. Jose no failure at Real Madrid, Real Madrid is just a team with players who behave like wayward young children. And Cristiano Ronaldo is the most whimsical child in the world.

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

[hamad138 190]

Hi friend!

For me, Cristiano Ronaldo had a horrible behavior with Jose in his the last year at Real Madrid. I would say Cristiano Ronaldo betrayed Jose incomprehensibly.

It's a long story. Ronaldo arrived at Real Madrid in 2009, a year before Jose, and Madridismo not want you to him. The Madridismo is a very demanding hobby (very disloyal in my opinion), especially with foreign players, and they spent the first year of Ronaldo at Real Madrid beeping him and not recognizing their statistics (before Ronaldo came to Spain it was impossible that a player would make more than 40 goals per year). In short, the Madridismo attacked Cristiano Ronaldo with contempt.

The atmosphere in Spain with Ronaldo was also quite rude. In all stadiums all rival fans shouted him "That portugues, that son of a bitch is".

However, when Jose arrived at Real Madrid he made Ronaldo the Real Madrid star. Without Mourinho probably Madridismo would never have accepted Cristiano Ronaldo.

Ronaldo had many confrontation with Casillas because the Casillas's girlfriend, a famous journalist in Spain, said: "Cristiano Ronaldo is pimp and arrogant". And even in Spain was commented that they almost stick by this comment.

Jose did everything to help Cristiano Ronaldo.

But finally Casillas and some Spanish players like Sergio Ramos, were united against Jose and campaigned with his friends journalists (many personal friends) against Jose. And in that moment so important for Jose, Cristiano Ronaldo preferred to betray Jose and get to support Casillas.

In Spain many people criticized the attitude of Cristiano Ronaldo and Pepe (Pepe in Spain was called Hyena and murderer until Jose defended him). They behaved like freeloaders to rather betray Jose to maintain its spectacular salary at Real Madrid. At the end many players were put against Jose and the team was unmanageable.

For me, Cristiano Ronaldo was a traitor. First I was faced with Casillas, after Jose defended Cristiano Ronaldo and betting everything for him and finally, when he intuited that Jose could leave Real Madrid, Cristiano Ronaldo preferred to betray Jose, saying all kinds of inappropriate comments about Jose, and Christian Ronaldo became friends with Casillas.

Jose had trouble at Real Madrid because Real Madrid is a team of stars, Drama queens. With many players who do not control their egos. It is a completely abnormal situation.

If a coach at Real Madrid asked summon the players of Real Madrid the day before a match in a hotel to make players not go to partys, the players of Real Madrid organized a riot against the coach. It is outrageous. Real Madrid players behave like childrens.

I will give you an example. Real Madrid has an agreement with Audi for which, apart from sport the logo of Audi in newsrooms and others, Real Madrid players have to take any official event of Real Madrid the Audi car. Instead, players staged a mutiny against Pellegrino and got that instead of taking cars Audi, they could bring their Ferraris and Lamborghini.

However, when Jose arrived at Real Madrid he said: "The player who does not take the car of the Audi brand to official events will be fined and will not let them in to the sports city of Real Madrid and Santiago Bernabeu with a car of another brand. "

Players heeded Jose and they used Audi since. Instead, now the players of Real Madrid lead back their Ferraris and Lamborghini. They manage the coaches at their own whim. And Jose never allow anybody to handle him.

The players of Real Madrid is ungovernable for any coach with a minimum of discipline. Not only Jose.

In summary. Ronaldo's attitude against Jose was disgusting. A filthy, own a small child treason because Cristiano Ronaldo is like a small child who cries constantly to be embraced by their daddies.

Many people say that Jose failure at Real Madrid and that is false. Before Real Madrid was a mediocre club and is now a TOP team. And that's thanks to Jose.

I remember when Ricardo Carvalho left the Real Madrid I said: "At Real Madrid players have childish behavior I had never experienced anything like it in my career Chelsea also had great players, but they behaved professionally, without egos and.. thinking about his companions and his team. Real Madrid is different, a team with stars with much ego. Jose no failure in the Real Madrid ".

To my Carvalho is an honest person, and what he said is very similar to what I think. Jose no failure at Real Madrid, Real Madrid is just a team with players who behave like wayward young children. And Cristiano Ronaldo is the most whimsical child in the world.

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

Atleast Christiano is better human as messi, this dictator sacked the fking president and forced him to a new election in the summer because of his childish behauvior

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Atleast Christiano is better human as messi, this dictator sacked the fking president and forced him to a new election in the summer because of his childish behauvior

Hi.

Well, without any intention to offend you friend, that's not exactly so. Barcelona president has resigned because he has cheated to the tax department of Spain because he has not paid taxes for the signing of Neymar.

Barcelona said that Neymar had cost them only 25 million, but now the Spanish justice has shown that, at least, Barcelona had paid for Neymar 97 million. And yet this open research and Spanish journalists of Judicial Affairs say, including premiums the father of Neymar, that the total amount of the signing of Neymar could be 125 million.

In addition, Bartomeu (Barcelona president) has not been elected by the partners / owners of Barcelona. They had chosen Rosell (former president of Barcelona), but Rosell has also been accused of having defrauded to the tax department of Spain (this guy also can not go to Brazil because Brazilian justice would take him him in jail for cheating to the tax department of Brazil).

Barcelona president has resigned by corruption scandals. Even the former president of Bacelona before Rosell and Bartomeu, Joan Laporta, also has problems with Spanish justice (Rossel and Bartomeu have accused Joan Laporta to steal money from Barcelona).

Cristiano Ronaldo abuse miserably with Jose.

Jose gave ALL to Cristiano Ronaldo and Cristiano Ronaldo betrayed Jose.

Ricardo Carvalho, ONE OF US, said that Real Madrid players behaved in an unprofessional manner with Jose.

Cristiano Ronaldo behaves like a small child, we already have seen him in Premier League...

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

[Irakozium257 350]

Hi friend!

For me, Cristiano Ronaldo had a horrible behavior with Jose in his the last year at Real Madrid. I would say Cristiano Ronaldo betrayed Jose incomprehensibly.

It's a long story. Ronaldo arrived at Real Madrid in 2009, a year before Jose, and Madridismo not want you to him. The Madridismo is a very demanding hobby (very disloyal in my opinion), especially with foreign players, and they spent the first year of Ronaldo at Real Madrid beeping him and not recognizing their statistics (before Ronaldo came to Spain it was impossible that a player would make more than 40 goals per year). In short, the Madridismo attacked Cristiano Ronaldo with contempt.

The atmosphere in Spain with Ronaldo was also quite rude. In all stadiums all rival fans shouted him "That portugues, that son of a bitch is".

However, when Jose arrived at Real Madrid he made Ronaldo the Real Madrid star. Without Mourinho probably Madridismo would never have accepted Cristiano Ronaldo.

Ronaldo had many confrontation with Casillas because the Casillas's girlfriend, a famous journalist in Spain, said: "Cristiano Ronaldo is pimp and arrogant". And even in Spain was commented that they almost stick by this comment.

Jose did everything to help Cristiano Ronaldo.

But finally Casillas and some Spanish players like Sergio Ramos, were united against Jose and campaigned with his friends journalists (many personal friends) against Jose. And in that moment so important for Jose, Cristiano Ronaldo preferred to betray Jose and get to support Casillas.

In Spain many people criticized the attitude of Cristiano Ronaldo and Pepe (Pepe in Spain was called Hyena and murderer until Jose defended him). They behaved like freeloaders to rather betray Jose to maintain its spectacular salary at Real Madrid. At the end many players were put against Jose and the team was unmanageable.

For me, Cristiano Ronaldo was a traitor. First I was faced with Casillas, after Jose defended Cristiano Ronaldo and betting everything for him and finally, when he intuited that Jose could leave Real Madrid, Cristiano Ronaldo preferred to betray Jose, saying all kinds of inappropriate comments about Jose, and Christian Ronaldo became friends with Casillas.

Jose had trouble at Real Madrid because Real Madrid is a team of stars, Drama queens. With many players who do not control their egos. It is a completely abnormal situation.

If a coach at Real Madrid asked summon the players of Real Madrid the day before a match in a hotel to make players not go to partys, the players of Real Madrid organized a riot against the coach. It is outrageous. Real Madrid players behave like childrens.

I will give you an example. Real Madrid has an agreement with Audi for which, apart from sport the logo of Audi in newsrooms and others, Real Madrid players have to take any official event of Real Madrid the Audi car. Instead, players staged a mutiny against Pellegrino and got that instead of taking cars Audi, they could bring their Ferraris and Lamborghini.

However, when Jose arrived at Real Madrid he said: "The player who does not take the car of the Audi brand to official events will be fined and will not let them in to the sports city of Real Madrid and Santiago Bernabeu with a car of another brand. "

Players heeded Jose and they used Audi since. Instead, now the players of Real Madrid lead back their Ferraris and Lamborghini. They manage the coaches at their own whim. And Jose never allow anybody to handle him.

The players of Real Madrid is ungovernable for any coach with a minimum of discipline. Not only Jose.

In summary. Ronaldo's attitude against Jose was disgusting. A filthy, own a small child treason because Cristiano Ronaldo is like a small child who cries constantly to be embraced by their daddies.

Many people say that Jose failure at Real Madrid and that is false. Before Real Madrid was a mediocre club and is now a TOP team. And that's thanks to Jose.

I remember when Ricardo Carvalho left the Real Madrid I said: "At Real Madrid players have childish behavior I had never experienced anything like it in my career Chelsea also had great players, but they behaved professionally, without egos and.. thinking about his companions and his team. Real Madrid is different, a team with stars with much ego. Jose no failure in the Real Madrid ".

To my Carvalho is an honest person, and what he said is very similar to what I think. Jose no failure at Real Madrid, Real Madrid is just a team with players who behave like wayward young children. And Cristiano Ronaldo is the most whimsical child in the world.

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

Thank you for the reply! I honestly think that Ancelotti learned from what Mourinho endured against those egoistical p*tos, and he's being two-faced with the man-management. Deep inside, he knows that any of the star players would organize a lynch mob against him if he flat-out told them they weren't performing very well and they would have to be second-fiddle to a not so star player.

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@Supporter, can I just say that your way with words is astonishing! I didn't know Jose was so badly treated in Spain.

Could you link me to that Ricky Carvalho interview? I'd like to read it

I need to watch that documentary posted earlier in this thread.

I just hope we can demolish PSG. Real Madrid in QF would be a dream. I want us to knock those fuckers out.

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@Supporter, can I just say that your way with words is astonishing! I didn't know Jose was so badly treated in Spain.

Could you link me to that Ricky Carvalho interview? I'd like to read it

I need to watch that documentary posted earlier in this thread.

I just hope we can demolish PSG. Real Madrid in QF would be a dream. I want us to knock those fuckers out.

Hi friend!

Yes. I found some links to Spanish websites (Although I put down to the links translated). The translation from Google Translator is horrible. I tried to translate it better if someone did not understand what Carvalho said.

I hope are well understood the words of Ricardo Carvalho, he defends Jose, Carvalho said that Jose is "honest, sincere and correct".

* Link in English (But at this link Carvalho just talk about Jose). http://www.squawka.com/news/former-chelsea-star-ricardo-carvalho-forgives-jose-mourinho-after-dropping-him/178071

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Problems in the white dress (in Real Madrid)

Ricardo Carvalho. "There were big discussions at Real Madrid".

Ricardo Carvalho: "Every team is a story. In Porto and Chelsea nobody at reacted badly, in Inter I imagine that was the same. In Real Madrid was different because some players were unhappy and from there everything is complicated. You have to respect the hierarchy. The player must play, the coach decide, and the manager manage ".

Ricardo Carvalho. "Outside the locker room they (journalist) talked more than what really happened".

Ricardo Carvalho. "With Mourinho I was fine, no problems. He explained the situation. When I came back from injury he said he could not change the defense. When I needed I was not, I understood but did not like to stay outside. The important thing is that Mourinho tells you the things to your face although you do not agree with him. he was always sincere and correct".

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Original link (In spanish). http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/111422-real-madrid-vestuario-carvalho-discusiones-mourinho-casillas-cristiano-ronaldo/

Google translation. http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defensacentral.com%2Freal_madrid%2F111422-real-madrid-vestuario-carvalho-discusiones-mourinho-casillas-cristiano-ronaldo%2F&sandbox=1

Original link (In spanish). http://www.madridismosubversivo.es/carvalho-hubo-grandes-discusiones-entre-mourinho-cr7-y-casillas/

Google translation. http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.madridismosubversivo.es%2Fcarvalho-hubo-grandes-discusiones-entre-mourinho-cr7-y-casillas%2F&sandbox=1

I hope that with these links will understood what I was saying. Carvalho defends Jose. He says he saw behavior in the Real Madrid who had not seen in Porto and Chelsea, and says he imagines that the Inter the situation would be very similar to Porto and Chesea.

I wish I have helped with this message to all forum members know the words about Jose from Ricardo Carvalho.

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

[stroey 2,525]

Hi friend!

For me, Cristiano Ronaldo had a horrible behavior with Jose in his the last year at Real Madrid. I would say Cristiano Ronaldo betrayed Jose incomprehensibly.

It's a long story. Ronaldo arrived at Real Madrid in 2009, a year before Jose, and Madridismo not want you to him. The Madridismo is a very demanding hobby (very disloyal in my opinion), especially with foreign players, and they spent the first year of Ronaldo at Real Madrid beeping him and not recognizing their statistics (before Ronaldo came to Spain it was impossible that a player would make more than 40 goals per year). In short, the Madridismo attacked Cristiano Ronaldo with contempt.

The atmosphere in Spain with Ronaldo was also quite rude. In all stadiums all rival fans shouted him "That portugues, that son of a bitch is".

However, when Jose arrived at Real Madrid he made Ronaldo the Real Madrid star. Without Mourinho probably Madridismo would never have accepted Cristiano Ronaldo.

Ronaldo had many confrontation with Casillas because the Casillas's girlfriend, a famous journalist in Spain, said: "Cristiano Ronaldo is pimp and arrogant". And even in Spain was commented that they almost stick by this comment.

Jose did everything to help Cristiano Ronaldo.

But finally Casillas and some Spanish players like Sergio Ramos, were united against Jose and campaigned with his friends journalists (many personal friends) against Jose. And in that moment so important for Jose, Cristiano Ronaldo preferred to betray Jose and get to support Casillas.

In Spain many people criticized the attitude of Cristiano Ronaldo and Pepe (Pepe in Spain was called Hyena and murderer until Jose defended him). They behaved like freeloaders to rather betray Jose to maintain its spectacular salary at Real Madrid. At the end many players were put against Jose and the team was unmanageable.

For me, Cristiano Ronaldo was a traitor. First I was faced with Casillas, after Jose defended Cristiano Ronaldo and betting everything for him and finally, when he intuited that Jose could leave Real Madrid, Cristiano Ronaldo preferred to betray Jose, saying all kinds of inappropriate comments about Jose, and Christian Ronaldo became friends with Casillas.

Jose had trouble at Real Madrid because Real Madrid is a team of stars, Drama queens. With many players who do not control their egos. It is a completely abnormal situation.

If a coach at Real Madrid asked summon the players of Real Madrid the day before a match in a hotel to make players not go to partys, the players of Real Madrid organized a riot against the coach. It is outrageous. Real Madrid players behave like childrens.

I will give you an example. Real Madrid has an agreement with Audi for which, apart from sport the logo of Audi in newsrooms and others, Real Madrid players have to take any official event of Real Madrid the Audi car. Instead, players staged a mutiny against Pellegrino and got that instead of taking cars Audi, they could bring their Ferraris and Lamborghini.

However, when Jose arrived at Real Madrid he said: "The player who does not take the car of the Audi brand to official events will be fined and will not let them in to the sports city of Real Madrid and Santiago Bernabeu with a car of another brand. "

Players heeded Jose and they used Audi since. Instead, now the players of Real Madrid lead back their Ferraris and Lamborghini. They manage the coaches at their own whim. And Jose never allow anybody to handle him.

The players of Real Madrid is ungovernable for any coach with a minimum of discipline. Not only Jose.

In summary. Ronaldo's attitude against Jose was disgusting. A filthy, own a small child treason because Cristiano Ronaldo is like a small child who cries constantly to be embraced by their daddies.

Many people say that Jose failure at Real Madrid and that is false. Before Real Madrid was a mediocre club and is now a TOP team. And that's thanks to Jose.

I remember when Ricardo Carvalho left the Real Madrid I said: "At Real Madrid players have childish behavior I had never experienced anything like it in my career Chelsea also had great players, but they behaved professionally, without egos and.. thinking about his companions and his team. Real Madrid is different, a team with stars with much ego. Jose no failure in the Real Madrid ".

To my Carvalho is an honest person, and what he said is very similar to what I think. Jose no failure at Real Madrid, Real Madrid is just a team with players who behave like wayward young children. And Cristiano Ronaldo is the most whimsical child in the world.

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

Hi Supporter, big friend of this forum.

Thank you for all your quality posts, I've almost liked all of them because they are so good!

I'm also a big big Mourinho fan since his first spell at Chelsea and have watched all his Inter and Madrid matches.

In his final year at Madrid almost all the players turned against Mourinho, I tried to find out who didn't do that and have concluded these players:

- Oezil, thanked him via FB + hugged him after first march at Arsenal and called him "the best manager and like a father"

- Khedira, made a photo collage and posted it on FB.

- Alonso, who said the Mourinho's method was like his fathers

- Arbeloa, had fights with Cassilas and kept supporting Mourinho.

- Varane, keeps saying positive things about Mou.

- Diego Lopez, made first GK.

- Modric, didn't really bad mouthed Mou in public.

- Obviously Essien, our Chelsea legend.

- And now you've added Carvalho.

I always had a feeling Ramos, Pepe, Casillas, Ronaldo, Marcelo lead the "anti-Mou camp" and the weaker players just followed them because of the pressure. (Di Maria, Coentrao etc)

Am I right about these players and are there other players who supported Mou?

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Jose Mourinho and Zlatan Ibrahimovic are simply misunderstood, claims David Luiz ahead of Champions League showdown

• Chelsea meet PSG in last 16 of Champions League on Tuesday
• Jose Mourinho and Zlatan Ibrahimovic are renowned as being arrogant
• Former Blues defender David Luiz insists both are portrayed wrongly

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2953910/Jose-Mourinho-Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-simply-misunderstood-claims-David-Luiz.html

Luiz's mind games

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Seeing the recent discussed topic about Jose - players relationship, maybe this is a whole different thing, but honestly at the first time I know that Jose will be return, what makes me excited is that how fantastic it will be the relationship between 'big personality and nice person' like Luiz and Mata. My assumption is that they are already 'a good players' before without Jose, imagine how great they could become working together with Jose.

When they're both gone, actually what makes me 'shocked' most is that their relationship seems fallen out. I don't know what Jose might thinking about both in reality, but maybe I just expect too much at the first place. It make me conclude that Jose is a pro manager though, he only judges about footballing aspect first.

[supporter 3,088]

Hi Supporter, big friend of this forum.

Thank you for all your quality posts, I've almost liked all of them because they are so good!

I'm also a big big Mourinho fan since his first spell at Chelsea and have watched all his Inter and Madrid matches.

In his final year at Madrid almost all the players turned against Mourinho, I tried to find out who didn't do that and have concluded these players:

- Oezil, thanked him via FB + hugged him after first march at Arsenal and called him "the best manager and like a father"

- Khedira, made a photo collage and posted it on FB.

- Alonso, who said the Mourinho's method was like his fathers

- Arbeloa, had fights with Cassilas and kept supporting Mourinho.

- Varane, keeps saying positive things about Mou.

- Diego Lopez, made first GK.

- Modric, didn't really bad mouthed Mou in public.

- Obviously Essien, our Chelsea legend.

- And now you've added Carvalho.

I always had a feeling Ramos, Pepe, Casillas, Ronaldo, Marcelo lead the "anti-Mou camp" and the weaker players just followed them because of the pressure. (Di Maria, Coentrao etc)

Am I right about these players and are there other players who supported Mou?

Hi friend!

Yes. Many players of Real Madrid supported

Mourinho. Ozil, Varane, Khedira, Diego Lopez, Xabi Alonso, Essien, Carvalho ... were really Iker Casillas and Sergio Ramos who mainly attacked him all the time.

Matches between Mourinho`s Real Madrid and Guardiola`s Barcelona were very tense. There was much tension. Even Xavi Hernandez (Barcelona) said: "Jose Mourinho is destroying the Spanish football" "Real Madrid is a mediocre club".

But to everyone's surprise, after these very tight matches, Iker Casillas Xavi Hernandez call to apologize for the behavior of Real Madrid in the Real Madrid v Barcelona. INCREDIBLE! Casillas Xavi apologize to the behavior of Jose Mourinho and Real Madrid.

This is a shame. Can anyone imagine John Terry calling Steven Gerrard apologizing for the behavior of Diego Costa and Jose Mourinho ?.

That is IMPOSSIBLE. John Terry © is a loyal player

Iker Casillas is a traitor. He only cares about his public image. In Spain Iker Casillas to call "The boyfriend that every mother would want for your daughter."

When Mourinho know that about the call of Iker Casillas to Xavi (This story was told by a journalist personal friend of Iker Casillas, 100% confirmed), Jose was very angry, but do not remove Iker Casillas of the starting eleven of the Real Madrid until five months after by the poor performance of Iker Casillas (in December 2012)

The Spanish journalists said Mourinho had taken Iker Casillas of the starting eleven of Real Madrid because Mourinho hate Spain and the national team of Spain, and Mourinho pretended to dynamite the national team of Spain (same xenophobic stories as ever).

That day changed everything. If before the Spanish journalists had deliberately attacked Jose, since that day was an absolutely horrific attack. A few days after the public Spanish newspaper AS show th training schedules of the Jose´s son and many Real Madrid fans were insulting the son of Jose. Even Mourinho had to hire private security for his son.

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I put pictures of AS and the story of José and his son.

AS. "Mourinho saw the training of his son while FIFA gala was held".

AS. "While Spanish La Liga was glorified in Zurich..."

AS. "Mourinho work ... watching the training of the team of his son"

AS. "Mourinho HAS LIED"

This is 100% true. It may seem impossible, but sadly was so.

After this cover, Mourinho said that he had been working from 7 am to 19 pm at the sports facilities (Valdebebas) of Real Madrid and then he went to see his son training (After being out all day working)

SOMETHING COMPLETELY NORMAL

Jose Mourinho is always very professional

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Cristiano Ronaldo and Pepe saw that Jose is going to have to go to Real Madrid by pressure from journalists, and they were united with Casillas and Ramos to attack Jose.

A shameful story...

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Hi friend!

Yes. I found some links to Spanish websites (Although I put down to the links translated). The translation from Google Translator is horrible. I tried to translate it better if someone did not understand what Carvalho said.

I hope are well understood the words of Ricardo Carvalho, he defends Jose, Carvalho said that Jose is "honest, sincere and correct".

* Link in English (But at this link Carvalho just talk about Jose). http://www.squawka.com/news/former-chelsea-star-ricardo-carvalho-forgives-jose-mourinho-after-dropping-him/178071

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Problems in the white dress (in Real Madrid)

Ricardo Carvalho. "There were big discussions at Real Madrid".

Ricardo Carvalho: "Every team is a story. In Porto and Chelsea nobody at reacted badly, in Inter I imagine that was the same. In Real Madrid was different because some players were unhappy and from there everything is complicated. You have to respect the hierarchy. The player must play, the coach decide, and the manager manage ".

Ricardo Carvalho. "Outside the locker room they (journalist) talked more than what really happened".

Ricardo Carvalho. "With Mourinho I was fine, no problems. He explained the situation. When I came back from injury he said he could not change the defense. When I needed I was not, I understood but did not like to stay outside. The important thing is that Mourinho tells you the things to your face although you do not agree with him. he was always sincere and correct".

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Original link (In spanish). http://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/111422-real-madrid-vestuario-carvalho-discusiones-mourinho-casillas-cristiano-ronaldo/

Google translation. http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defensacentral.com%2Freal_madrid%2F111422-real-madrid-vestuario-carvalho-discusiones-mourinho-casillas-cristiano-ronaldo%2F&sandbox=1

Original link (In spanish). http://www.madridismosubversivo.es/carvalho-hubo-grandes-discusiones-entre-mourinho-cr7-y-casillas/

Google translation. http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.madridismosubversivo.es%2Fcarvalho-hubo-grandes-discusiones-entre-mourinho-cr7-y-casillas%2F&sandbox=1

I hope that with these links will understood what I was saying. Carvalho defends Jose. He says he saw behavior in the Real Madrid who had not seen in Porto and Chelsea, and says he imagines that the Inter the situation would be very similar to Porto and Chesea.

I wish I have helped with this message to all forum members know the words about Jose from Ricardo Carvalho.

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

Cheers mate. I found that helpful

I watched the documentary, wow, that was inspirational. Increased my respect for Jose even more. Imagine what he felt like on his return home. I want Real Madrid in the final. It will be one of the finest displays football will ever see, imo.

[supporter 3,088]

I searched a compilation of the Spanish press attacks against Jose Mourinho.

I hope it will be interesting for everyone to understand how Jose was attacked in Spain shamefully.

1. “Mr. "Indispensable" is made the "interesting" ”

2. “Bring such peace (to London) like peace you let (In Spain)”.
“Bye, Bye Mourinho”.

3. Mourinho hides (of journalists). "In this way no, Mou".

4. “Pitiful end”.

5. “Mourinho burning Real Madrid”.

6. Goodbye Mourinho! Consummate failure.

7. Mou unleashes another fire, this time in "La Fabrica" (The Academy of Real Madrid)
(Mourinho) “Dynamite the quarry”

(La Cantera is what we call in Spain to The Academy)

8. Shameles.

9. Mourinho cowers.

10. Bigmouth Mourinho.

11. Unpresentable Mourinho.

12. Mourinho will play dirty.

13. Incredible shameless.

14. (Cristiano Ronaldo and Mourinho) The most hated.

Casillas. The other face. "Guardiola is a great person and a great manager"

15. The latest scandal of Mourinho.

16. The farce is over.

17. Goodbye to Mourinho. By the back door.

18. All Madridismo attacks Mourinho and Pepe. The shame of Madrid.

19. Mourinho I, the semifinalist.

20. Iker Casillas. "(Mourinho) We can delay one hour the training?". Mourinho. NO!

21. Iker (Casillas) you're The Special One.

22. President: or Mourinho or Us. Real Madrid players to Florentino Perez.

23. The desgate of the pressure on the faces of Jose before and after Real Madrid.

We can not allow this to be repeated here in Chelsea. Jose needs us.

Now more than ever ...

Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho!

Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho!

Regards to ALL.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

I searched a compilation of the Spanish press attacks against Jose Mourinho.

I hope it will be interesting for everyone to understand how Jose was attacked in Spain shamefully.

1. “Mr. "Indispensable" is made the "interesting" ”

2. “Bring such peace (to London) like peace you let (In Spain)”.

“Bye, Bye Mourinho”.

3. Mourinho hides (of journalists). "In this way no, Mou".

4. “Pitiful end”.

5. “Mourinho burning Real Madrid”.

6. Goodbye Mourinho! Consummate failure.

7. Mou unleashes another fire, this time in "La Fabrica" (The Academy of Real Madrid)

(Mourinho) “Dynamite the quarry”

(La Cantera is what we call in Spain to The Academy)

8. Shameles.

9. Mourinho cowers.

10. Bigmouth Mourinho.

11. Unpresentable Mourinho.

12. Mourinho will play dirty.

13. Incredible shameless.

14. (Cristiano Ronaldo and Mourinho) The most hated.

Casillas. The other face. "Guardiola is a great person and a great manager"

15. The latest scandal of Mourinho.

16. The farce is over.

17. Goodbye to Mourinho. By the back door.

18. All Madridismo attacks Mourinho and Pepe. The shame of Madrid.

19. Mourinho I, the semifinalist.

20. Iker Casillas. "(Mourinho) We can delay one hour the training?". Mourinho. NO!

21. Iker (Casillas) you're The Special One.

22. President: or Mourinho or Us. Real Madrid players to Florentino Perez.

23. The desgate of the pressure on the faces of Jose before and after Real Madrid.

We can not allow this to be repeated here in Chelsea. Jose needs us.

Now more than ever ...

Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho!

Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho! Jose Mourinho!

Regards to ALL.

Wow, Spanish media should ashamed of themselves. I don't really care about Madrid, as Madrid loss is our gain.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Robben now saying Mou is great coach and that he is happy he had chance to learn under Mou at young age.

[Muzchap 8,966]

You cannot please all of the people all of the time.

The fact that a handful of egotistical wankers decide to slate Jose - is proof enough for me, that he knows what he's doing.

No one player is bigger than the club, Mourinho forces his team to work hard first - then play second.

He doesn't bow to pressure and has his own plan.

Players who want to play 'football' and 'Win' will benefit most from him. Players that want 'celebrity' will never work with Mourinho. For that I am thankful. Yes we might miss out on a few 'flash' players - but we will have a winning, professional team.

[Barbara 15,149]

Jose Mourinho and Zlatan Ibrahimovic are simply misunderstood, claims David Luiz ahead of Champions League showdown

• Chelsea meet PSG in last 16 of Champions League on Tuesday
• Jose Mourinho and Zlatan Ibrahimovic are renowned as being arrogant
• Former Blues defender David Luiz insists both are portrayed wrongly

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2953910/Jose-Mourinho-Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-simply-misunderstood-claims-David-Luiz.html

Luiz's mind games

no direct quote from Luiz saying either.

He only said something about Zlatan and that he and Mourinho have mutual respect.

Dailymail completely made out the title with little ammunition.

[supporter 3,088]

You cannot please all of the people all of the time.

The fact that a handful of egotistical wankers decide to slate Jose - is proof enough for me, that he knows what he's doing.

No one player is bigger than the club, Mourinho forces his team to work hard first - then play second.

He doesn't bow to pressure and has his own plan.

Players who want to play 'football' and 'Win' will benefit most from him. Players that want 'celebrity' will never work with Mourinho. For that I am thankful. Yes we might miss out on a few 'flash' players - but we will have a winning, professional team.

Hi friend!

EXACTLY. The main feature of Mourinho is the meritocracy (system That rewards achievement).

"Class is to die on the pitch, not all that cheap philosophy"

We are building a team of legend. Step by step we have built a team to compete with teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern, apart from having the hegemony of the English football now.

If we were giving priority to the whims of the biggest stars of football we would never have won the Champions League. The team Di Matteo had a group with a lot of companionship and professionalism. For this reason we won the Champions League eliminating teams like Barcelona and Bayern in the final.

Mourinho is very professional, but someone above is an honest and fair person. With Jose in Chelsea only play the players whom best work during the week.

PURE MERITOCRACY

Many of us prefer this philosophy. With that mentality now Cesar Azpilicueta (ONE OF US) this every week in our starting eleven. Thanks to this philosophy Zouma (The Wall) is now our starting eleven, and thanks to that model we do not prioritize football players converted into stars of POP music, and we prioritize players who play every second as if was the last of their lives to help our team.

I trust in Jose. ALL of US trust in JOSE. He has created a group with a lot a lot of companionship and professionalism with a strong winning mentality.

Now in Chelsea we ALL paddle together

Regards.

Regards to ALL.

[Barbara 15,149]

@supporter, you forgot one of the biggest Mourinho supporters in the RM locker room. Arbeloa til this day condemns the behavior of his teammates and backs Mourinho up. No one has defended Mourinho publicly more fiercely than Arbeloa.

I've been a Madrid fan for over two decades now and what the club, Ramos and Casillas did to Mourinho and how they manipulated the press because they think they're bigger than the club made me disgusted and despite celebrating a lot La Décima last season, I'm still upset about everything... I avoid watching Madrid and it won't change until those big egos leave the club. I also have a hard time dealing with Perez and his craziness. I won't stop supporting them, but I don't feel like watching them anymore