Cesc Fàbregas

[the wes 7,212]

I wonder what he means by heavy. He definitely isn't out of shape. That's not the problem. But maybe he means slow, especially in his footwork. That I would agree with. He aged quickly. He looks like an old man on the pitch.

maybe hes burnt out did fabregas not started his career at a young age??

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I hate him in the AM, I don't know why he doesn't just try to do more linkup passes with hazard like Mata did. He has the ability to play one two's as an intelligent player, the coach won't stop you from linking up play "pass and move"

[DYC. 7,542]

maybe hes burnt out did fabregas not started his career at a young age??

Yeah, that does happen. But then again, the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Lahm and many others started off young as well. I guess it depends on the player.

[the wes 7,212]

Yeah, that does happen. But then again, the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Lahm and many others started off young as well. I guess it depends on the player.

Cesc Fàbregas was 16 years, 177 days when he started his 1st team debut for arsenal

[DYC. 7,542]

Cesc Fàbregas was 16 years, 177 days when he started his 1st team debut for arsenal

True but he wasn't a starter until he was 18/19 I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

And others played very, very early as well. I doubt everyone that started off early dropped off significantly (physically) at the age of 28. Some players played 15 to 20 years of first team football.

EDIT: I had to check. Wiki is admittedly a weak source but still. According to them, he's played 514 games at club level and 139 games for Spain at senior and youth level. I have to say, that's a lot.

[the wes 7,212]

EDIT: I had to check. Wiki is admittedly a weak source but still. According to them, he's played 514 games at club level and 139 games for Spain at senior and youth level. I have to say, that's a lot.

that's a lot of football for a 28 year old

[didierforever 7,349]

so now he is burned out too?

i thought that was reserved for oscar only.

is hazard burned out too?

oh just sell the fucking lot and buy/play people who actually give a fuck about the club.

[DYC. 7,542]

Maybe I'll get burned for this but again, Cesc wasn't bad imo. In fact, he was even better. The best attacking player in possession in the first half. Willian really came alive in the second half. He moved into good positions and most of what he did was positive and came off. Maybe I need a tinfoil hat.

But I understood the sub. He lacks speed and mobility and that was needed after trailing and playing with 10 men.

[Jase 43,479]

Maybe I'll get burned for this but again, Cesc wasn't bad imo. In fact, he was even better. The best attacking player in possession in the first half. Willian really came alive in the second half. He moved into good positions and most of what he did was positive and came off. Maybe I need a tinfoil hat.

But I understood the sub. He lacks speed and mobility and that was needed after trailing and playing with 10 men.

Think the fact that he got a yellow card before HT may have something to do with that. Last thing we needed was going down to 9 men (not that it mattered anyway in the end).

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Maybe I'll get burned for this but again, Cesc wasn't bad imo. In fact, he was even better. The best attacking player in possession in the first half. Willian really came alive in the second half. He moved into good positions and most of what he did was positive and came off. Maybe I need a tinfoil hat.

But I understood the sub. He lacks speed and mobility and that was needed after trailing and playing with 10 men.

No, I thought he was good too - but obviously taken off to shore up the midfield.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

he was very good yesterday, made tackles and interceptions, and was very good going forward, his goal should have counted also as he wasnt offside, he had to go off at HT though as he was on a yellow card.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Think the fact that he got a yellow card before HT may have something to do with that. Last thing we needed was going down to 9 men (not that it mattered anyway in the end).

yes i agree, if Ramires was on a yellow and Cesc wasnt then no doubt Ramires would have come off for Mikel

[BlueLyon 9,359]

If he actualy gave a fuck, that would be nice.

IMO he is the perfect description of plastic player, and I dont want that in our team. Right now Hazard, Matic and bunch of others dont give shit either, but Cesc oozes the class of player who is here for trophies and wont push his body to save the club. Fuck that.

We had players who actualy gave fuck like Lamps, Drogba, Essien, Ballack, fighting for the team. Team we have right now, is disgrace. Sadly but it. From defense to attack, to management, maybe 10% cares.

[Oscar 441]

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

World 11 on Fifa Ultimate team? he is not good enough to be in Chelsea 11 never mind world 11

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Not that we were setting the world alight, but I felt we lost the game when he came on.

To be brutally honest, I can't see what sort of system here he can be a part of going forward. I've been trying not say this as not to sound too harsh on him, but in my opinion he needs to go in the next few windows.

[jmarlow 458]

Not that we were setting the world alight, but I felt we lost the game when he came on.

To be brutally honest, I can't see what sort of system here he can be a part of going forward. I've been trying not say this as not to sound too harsh on him, but in my opinion he needs to go in the next few windows.

We would have to sign the right players and play possession football to really get the best out of him, signing the likes of Javi Martinez, Gundogan and Isco would transform Cesc back into a top class player imo.

J.Martinez - Gundogan

Isco - Fabregas - Hazard

Costa

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

This guy seriously lacks balls. I'm ashamed I considered him captain material at one point.