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I think Kroos would be good adition here, but he is far from what we should realy target if we are to buy CM in summer.

Kroos is top passer and finisher for a midfielder, but he is CAM, he is FUCKIN SLOW and doesnt track enough. Plus his complaint vs Bayern shows he is impatient, maybe even problematic to Pep. Perhaps thats why they are ready to sell him...

We should target MOBILE, DYNAMIC CM if any and Kroos aint that. Gundogan (if fit) would be best option, Pogba or Witsel too.

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In the press conference after the game yesterday v Frankfurt, Guardiola said: "Bayern had the best display of the season." Nice dig at Toni Kroos, a top player who warmed the bench for the whole game.

Guardiola is making an example of Kroos in front of the other players. We'll know soon enough who will win the pissing contest.

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Guardiola was asked about kroos and he said he'll only talk about the players that played.

I remember something similar between mourinho and KDB situation.

What are our chances of offering bayern 40-45mil to get both kroos and mandzukic??

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If we wanna get a midfielder who can play in the pivot, would rather than us go for Gundogan, even if he has his injury problems (shame Cabaye has gone to PSG). Kroos can play in the pivot but think he's far more effective as a CAM, behind the striker. Getting him to play as a CM where is he less effective is like putting square pegs in round hole again.

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If we wanna get a midfielder who can play in the pivot, would rather than us go for Gundogan, even if he has his injury problems (shame Cabaye has gone to PSG). Kroos can play in the pivot but think he's far more effective as a CAM, behind the striker. Getting him to play as a CM where is he less effective is like putting square pegs in round hole again.

Didn't Gundogan wreck his back? Has he overcome his injury yet? It's worrying because Gundogan could very well be a shadow of himself.

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We are playing lamps in the pivot. Now compare kroos with lamps, in vision, passing, speed, shot accuracy, shot power, technique, age. Surely against the westhams, its a vast improvement.

The only possible improvement will be a mobile and strong person like pogba. But I think there will be a bidding war for him in the summer.

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Decent player but we don't need him. I think he is more useful behind the striker. We have Matic, Ramires, Mikel, Lampard and Van Ginkel in pivot and some really talented young players(Chalobah, Aké, McEachren). Get a great left back and a a striker and we are ready.

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Guardiola was asked about kroos and he said he'll only talk about the players that played.

I remember something similar between mourinho and KDB situation.

What are our chances of offering bayern 40-45mil to get both kroos and mandzukic??

There's no chance in hell we'd get both for 45 million ^^ Besides I'd pay 20 million to not have that cuntfaced croatian play for us.

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There's no chance in hell we'd get both for 45 million ^^ Besides I'd pay 20 million to not have that cuntfaced croatian play for us.

By summer, kroos has 6 months left on his contract till january. That alone reduces his value by half = 20mil

Mandzukic = 20mil

I know mandzukic is not playing his best this season(even though he has 2 goals and 2 assists in the last 2 games) even ibrahimovic struggled with pep's style at barcelona.

Mandzukic was perfect for bayern last season in the pressing fast counter system we are trying to play. He is the best header of the ball in the game imo. Easy for ivanovic crosses to connect with his height. He has also played with similar players to what we have.

Ribery - Hazard

Muller - oscar

Robben - salah/willian

Martinez - Matic

And more importantly, he has been replaced by lewandoski for pep's system.

I know he is no suarez or cavani, but what if rooney signs new contract, liverpool gets champs league, psg threatens to bid for hazard if we go for cavani, benzema becomes unavailable??

Who else can we buy except costa and mandzukic??

This situation is 100% possible

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By summer, kroos has 6 months left on his contract till january. That alone reduces his value by half = 20mil

Mandzukic = 20mil

I know mandzukic is not playing his best this season(even though he has 2 goals and 2 assists in the last 2 games) even ibrahimovic struggled with pep's style at barcelona.

Mandzukic was perfect for bayern last season in the pressing fast counter system we are trying to play. He is the best header of the ball in the game imo. Easy for ivanovic crosses to connect with his height. He has also played with similar players to what we have.

Ribery - Hazard

Muller - oscar

Robben - salah/willian

Martinez - Matic

And more importantly, he has been replaced by lewandoski for pep's system.

I know he is no suarez or cavani, but what if rooney signs new contract, liverpool gets champs league, psg threatens to bid for hazard if we go for cavani, benzema becomes unavailable??

Who else can we buy except costa and mandzukic??

This situation is 100% possible

Oh I'm not doubting his ability mate, I can't stand his face is all. And his antics.

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By summer, kroos has 6 months left on his contract till january. That alone reduces his value by half = 20mil

Mandzukic = 20mil

I know mandzukic is not playing his best this season(even though he has 2 goals and 2 assists in the last 2 games) even ibrahimovic struggled with pep's style at barcelona.

Mandzukic was perfect for bayern last season in the pressing fast counter system we are trying to play. He is the best header of the ball in the game imo. Easy for ivanovic crosses to connect with his height. He has also played with similar players to what we have.

Ribery - Hazard

Muller - oscar

Robben - salah/willian

Martinez - Matic

And more importantly, he has been replaced by lewandoski for pep's system.

I know he is no suarez or cavani, but what if rooney signs new contract, liverpool gets champs league, psg threatens to bid for hazard if we go for cavani, benzema becomes unavailable??

Who else can we buy except costa and mandzukic??

This situation is 100% possible

Best case scenario if we get them both.
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