LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Work-rate is good 'n' all if you've got the end quality on top of it. Rooney, is a player who is actually that player. I think he's still just an average footballer, but because he actually works hard enough on the pitch and delivers with goals and assists he's vastly superior at the moment than most players in his position. He's definitely a Mourinho kind of player, though I am glad we didn't sign him lmao.It just gives perspective. You can be average, have a good work rate, and still be a vital part of your squad.. But you can't just be average and have a good work rate.. That's not enough for a club fighting for 4 trophies. Barbara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Not sure if new...but he looks like he is about to release rap mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I really think that he's not good enough for us if we want to really be the best.He's a good player but like I said, if we want to be THE BEST we need someone better. (I haven't really been following this season so far so my opinion is mostly based on last season) OhForAGreavsie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Thistle 77 Posted December 23, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted December 23, 2014 Willian's guide to attacking:Step 1. Receive the ball in a good areaStep 2. Face up to defender and do not move for 3 secondsStep 3. SchimmyStep 4. Pass backwardsStep 5. Repeat the above The Chels, Cescy, Blue-in-me-Veins and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 He's more frustrating the last month or so because he's more selfish with the ball, and still doesn't do anything as usual. Despiadado.Maleante, Barbara and Laugh1ngMan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Incredibly one-footed. DYC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Willian's guide to attacking:Step 1. Receive the ball in a good areaStep 2. Face up to defender and do not move for 3 secondsStep 3. SchimmyStep 4. Pass backwardsStep 5. Repeat the aboveSpot on.He gives more back passes than mikel, he has speed but can't dribble past a defender to save his life and always makes the wrong choice in attack. I think at this point we should play Schurrle more. I know he's selfish but he at least contributes more in attack and making him feel like he's a starter will reduce his selfishness and he has more years to improve while willian is a final product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Paying 30m just to get a workhorse like Willian seems a waste of money, doesn't it? There are probably some players in the squad who if drilled properly, can do the same job he does and even contribute more offensively. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 He became more selfish these days...he wants to shoot everytime...his shots are weak..frustating to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,356 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 he did not look up for it from minute one, getting a little slap and then staying down for 2 minutes is not what you want to see in the second minute away at Stoke. ManchesterMatt and Barbara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 He's a squad player. Mediocre and a work-horse.. Someone to fill in when the player ahead of them is injured or requires a rest. The right wing must be addressed next summer. MrExcalibur100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 his shots are looking extremely weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,356 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The thing is, does it? Willian has improved from last year, the same Eden improved, no I'm not saying they are any way the same player blah blah blah but what I am saying is that when we stop seeing improvement then its time to identify targets and possibly drop him etc.He had a poor game, no getting away from that and he wasn't up for the physical side of it last night but again, ran his nuts off.Willian has the ability, only a few other in the EPL that could beat him over 5 yards, not a huge amount but he had a burst of speed that you don't see often. as it creates space between him and the opposing player.Improvements required:ShootingQuicker release of the ball near the boxI actually feel we get more from Willian and penetration from having him in the middle than on the wing but Jose cannot sacrifice that work rate because he compliments/gives so much freedom to Ivanovic down the right.If you look at our back four CB+CB+LB are all pretty much in a line but the RB is halfway up the opposition half positioned for a forward run or a diagonal cross field ball. Stats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The thing is, does it? Willian has improved from last year, the same Eden improved, no I'm not saying they are any way the same player blah blah blah but what I am saying is that when we stop seeing improvement then its time to identify targets and possibly drop him etc.He had a poor game, no getting away from that and he wasn't up for the physical side of it last night but again, ran his nuts off.Willian has the ability, only a few other in the EPL that could beat him over 5 yards, not a huge amount but he had a burst of speed that you don't see often. as it creates space between him and the opposing player.Improvements required:ShootingQuicker release of the ball near the boxI actually feel we get more from Willian and penetration from having him in the middle than on the wing but Jose cannot sacrifice that work rate because he compliments/gives so much freedom to Ivanovic down the right.If you look at our back four CB+CB+LB are all pretty much in a line but the RB is halfway up the opposition half positioned for a forward run or a diagonal cross field ball.I disagree. The right question for me is 'has he improved enough to consistently starter for Chelsea?' And to that question the answer is no imo. He's good to be a squad player but as he's a workhouse and Jose loves those he's been promoted to a starter which he shouldn't if we aspire to be among the best teams in the world. Chelsea is way out of his league as a starter, but he makes the cut as a sub. MrExcalibur100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 He became more selfish these days...he wants to shoot everytime...his shots are weak..frustating to watchHe's said publicly Mourinho wants him to finish every match with atleast 3 shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Paying 30m just to get a workhorse like Willian seems a waste of money, doesn't it? There are probably some players in the squad who if drilled properly, can do the same job he does and even contribute more offensively.Even our FBs offer more going forward than him. In fact I reckon we'd have a greater attacking output if Hazard moved to the right and Luis played on the left in front of Azpi. Sheva., !Hazard! and commilin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted December 23, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted December 23, 2014 Paying 30m just to get a workhorse like Willian seems a waste of money, doesn't it? There are probably some players in the squad who if drilled properly, can do the same job he does and even contribute more offensively.Im not sure, for all his last ball frustrations he offers incredible balance to the team, the reason Hazard has a free(ish) role is because him and Oscar run around like dogs to maintain the team balance.We could have got someone to "run around" for about 5m, but he would probably be a technical and tactical donkey who offers nothing more than lungs.Players like Willian are vital to a team/squad, people use to wonder why Fergie always played "average"player's aswell.If we lift the PL in May then Willian would have well and truly earned his medal as much as anyone. the wes, DH1988, Kieran. and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Im not sure, for all his last ball frustrations he offers incredible balance to the team, the reason Hazard has a free(ish) role is because him and Oscar run around like dogs to maintain the team balance.We could have got someone to "run around" for about 5m, but he would probably be a technical and tactical donkey who offers nothing more than lungs.Players like Willian are vital to a team/squad, people use to wonder why Fergie always played "average"player's aswell.If we lift the PL in May then Willian would have well and truly earned his medal as much as anyone.I'm perfectly well aware of that but at what point, do we say 'enough is enough' with the lack of product going forward? Nobody is asking Willian to score or assist in every game, but at least produce them in return at a decent rate. Right now, that only seem to be happening like once in every blue moon. His last league goal and assist came back in September against Villa. His last ones in all competitions was against Schalke last month. So, he's practically only scored and assisted in two games this season. That's really underwhelming, even for a player providing balance to the team. Barbara, Madmax, Daniel1980 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 He cost about as much as Cesc, Eden and Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 If Jose wanted more attacking plays from the right side then I am sure Andre would have been a starter for us. Its clear now that Willian gets picked primarily for his defending efforts. Though he's not bad offensively and at times can form great link ups with out attacking players.Is he worth the 30m? Definitely not but there is no point talking about the price tag now. He may not be a game changer like Hazard but that does not mean we should overlook the Brazilian's effort because of this. I feel he's highly underrated and am glad that he plays for us. stroey and Tomo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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