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Awful to think that we're actually going to loan out this kid and retain Mikel because Mikel bears a passing resemblance to a holding midfielder. If we lose Oscar or Fabregas for a game or two then Van Ginkel's game is the closest of all of our midfielders to their's but he simply might not get enough games.

If he does go out on loan then hopefully it's only a short-term one and he tears it up in Serie A.

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Awful to think that we're actually going to loan out this kid and retain Mikel because Mikel bears a passing resemblance to a holding midfielder. If we lose Oscar or Fabregas for a game or two then Van Ginkel's game is the closest of all of our midfielders to their's but he simply might not get enough games.

If he does go out on loan then hopefully it's only a short-term one and he tears it up in Serie A.

Then we can bring Baker

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Then we can bring Baker

We also have Ake and Chalobah (who seems likely to go out on loan).

Honestly I think Van Ginkel is probably going to go the route of Romeu. His chance to break through was last year but he got injured. Sometimes you only get one shot.

Unless you're John Obi Mikel.

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This is plain dumb move if Torres is not part of the move (not that I wanted Van Ginkel to go on loan but willing to make a sacrifice if Torres is included) ... We will be playing so many matches in a season, Matic wouldnt be able to play all and Van Ginkel is a very good backup to Matic ...

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that's it.

The kid is only 21, there are some REALLY big guys ahead of him in the pecking order and he chooses to stay.

Maybe AC Milan isn't what he wanted, but he chose the chance to fight for his space over the chance to play week in and out (no doubts he'd get into their first team).

that's the kind of determination and fight I love in a football player - which doesn't mean if a club he rates better for a reason or another comes tomorrow he won't agree to be loaned. He's aware EPL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Serie A. While I don't think any other league compares to EPL German and Spanish leagues are still top leagues to a young player to develop. Of course, he could also be loaned to a EPL team... maybe that's what he's aiming and he's just down right fighting for his space here - which is admirable.

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How many games do you guys see him getting if he stays? He played no football last year(VERY little) and I don't anticipate him getting enough games here either. His decision I guess but u-21 league can't be better for him than Serie A

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Perfectly justified decision but Torres leaving on loan > van Ginkel leaving on loan, IMO, so it's mixed feelings. We still need 1 foreign player off our roster if we don't sign anyone and the attention will probably swing back to Cech. Also, to sign Destro, which is the most important thing now, we need to let go of 2 foreign players.

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