Closed Chelsea 0-2 Swansea

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

I think it is simply because Ba looked more dangerous in 10 minutes (1 goal and 1 penalty => both unfairly disallowed) than torres in 80 minutes.

The off-side was tight. He was probably very very slightly offside but possibly not. There was no penalty. There was no dive either (I hate how refs think it's either/or) but that would have been a ridiculous penalty. Ba definitely looked much more dangerous though. He got his head of a couple of balls in the box and looked dangerous overall. He should have come on earlier.

[communicate 2,703]

The off-side was tight. He was probably very very slightly offside but possibly not. There was no penalty. There was no dive either (I hate how refs think it's either/or) but that would have been a ridiculous penalty. Ba definitely looked much more dangerous though. He got his head of a couple of balls in the box and looked dangerous overall. He should have come on earlier.

I probably need to watch the off side replay more to see whether that is an offside or not but that was 100 % penalty in my eye. Ba had a chance to get to the ball if the goalkeeper did not stop his progress. So even if it was a minimal contact, it was still a penalty

[Kezza 1,965]

Ohkay , well Benitez should have played Ba . Torres is not performing for a while now , I agree on that . But he is clearly not the reason for our defeat #FACT

Out reason for defeat was failure to be clinical In front if goal, that's Torres' 'job' to do so. Yes iva made a meal of the game, but he had been our most consistant player this season, along with mata, Cech (hazard and Cahill to a certain extent). Torres is just shit. Had Ba been on and not Torres, we would of at least drawn. So yes he is the reason for the defeat, well rafa too for being a stubborn cunt #FACT

[YouNameIt 1,511]

It's funny how everyone is blaming Torres , when clearly Super Bane and Messi Mata are the one to blame the most ? Stop doing criticism for the sake of criticism . The match would have ended a draw if Brana didn't had gifted them those goals , super assists tho , beats the valdes to di maria one , and Mata alone missed four chances , what are you guys talking about ?

You dont get it do you? It doesnt matter if Mata misses 10 chances. Fact remains, Torres doesnt even get chances. Game after game...

[robdog 2,084]

Ohkay , well Benitez should have played Ba . Torres is not performing for a while now , I agree on that . But he is clearly not the reason for our defeat #FACT

What about bringing in both Lamps & Marin a bit earlier as well? You don't think the failure to make quicker substitutions are a factor?

[Jype 6,398]

Ohkay , well Benitez should have played Ba . Torres is not performing for a while now , I agree on that . But he is clearly not the reason for our defeat #FACT

It's Rafa's fault because he is a clueless cunt who froze when it really mattered, and the scary thing is that this wasn't even the first time and I guarantee it wasn't the last either. He did nothing to react to the horrible performances of a few players, when nearly anyone who knew what the fuck they were doing would have used their three allowed substitutions to try and change the game.

With Torres it was pretty much the same, like Benitez he didn't even turn up and the result would have been the same if he'd just stayed in the locker room and the team had played with ten men from minute one. These two cunts might not have made the most visible mistakes like Ivanovic, but to anyone who understands even the basics of football they were by far the worst one could imagine.

[Peppen 934]

Shit result, but had a gut feeling when we missed that many chances in the first half.

Man runs from stands onto pitch, rounds three players, falls on arse waving arms emphatically. Had a better game than Torres to be fair.
— Dan Levene (@BluesChronicle) January 9, 2013

[The Rising Sun 711]

That was the most ironic game to watch. They did a Chelsea ON Chelsea.

As said before, Torres really is a Cancer for us and there is really no way out, atleast till the summer.

He simply doesnt have the skill,pace,or mental intelligence to play for a big club.

Sadly, we are carrying this fucking bag of shit and he is weighing us down bit by bit.

The only way to make our feelings clear, is for fans to start booing him. Sad, but there is no other alternative.

The guy has some 3 years left on his contract of 175000 p/w, no one will buy him even if we heavily subsidize the deal.

Its the same case with Schneider, but he is a top quality player still, yet even if he is let out on a free, no club is willing to pay him his 200k p/w.

IMO, Oscar needs to up his game, become stronger and more assertive. He has good moments, but is never able to impose himself on the game.

Just like Ramires is not a right winger, neither is oscar and the trio should not be played together unless oscar is playing in the DP.

Oscar and Luiz DP? Sounds interesting.

So..... AVB and Di Matteo had balls. AVB started his days by giving Torres a chance, and it didnt take him long to realise that he is the cancer....benched him.... Di Matteo also benched him,,,,, Now lets see if Benitez has balls.

It is still very possible to overturn this deficit. Not as gloomy as people are making it out to be.... an early Chelsea Goal at the Liberty will change the game bigtime,....

To summarise,

They tried to do a Chelsea on Chelsea, and succeeded.

We tried to do a Swansea on Swansea, and failed.

[didierforever 7,349]

I thought RDM did give up on Torres @ Juve. Remember the false 9 was deployed in that match?

and he was sacked... coincidence?

[communicate 2,703]

and he was sacked... coincidence?

There is nothing to do with that. I have mentioned this a couple of times, RDM was offered 2 years contract only (Nobody received 2 years contract in football). That clearly showed that our board did not trust RDM

[robdog 2,084]

and he was sacked... coincidence?

The previous poster was asking if RDM can't see Torres misfiring. He did, that is all I was pointing out.

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Jose benched Sheva,didnt go down well. RDM benched Torres,also didnt go well.Sod the price if they are crap shouldnt have to feel the need to play them to please the board and co!

We still have a chance.gotta score first and keep going.if not bleh another cup gone :-(

[Spike 12,049]

so are you saying that both rdm and fsw are so utter clueless in their judgement of players' ability that they cant see that torres sucks and is over. or do you think torres becomes superman in training but cant reproduce that on the pitch. even in that case if a player is not performing upto the mark then u expect him to be dropped regardless of how he trains and plays in practise. the point is do u actually believe that both rdm and rafa are so bad managers that they cant see that torres is a liabilty?

What in the holy hell are you talking about? It was obvious neither rated Sturridge as a Centre Foward so they opted for literall the only other choice.

Jesus Christ, where did that come from?

[didierforever 7,349]

The previous poster was asking if RDM can't see Torres misfiring. He did, that is all I was pointing out.

it was a part of a big conversation about y we are sticking with torres and if its the manager's doings or they are doing it on the board (aka roman's) bidding.

[didierforever 7,349]

What in the holy hell are you talking about? It was obvious neither rated Sturridge as a Centre Foward so they opted for literall the only other choice.

Jesus Christ, where did that come from?

sturridge was our only other option upfront. the performances torres was putting should have had him warming the bench long long ago. irrespective of how high any manager rated sturridge, something different should have been tried and under normal circumstances would have been tried.

[Spike 12,049]

sturridge was our only other option upfront. the performances torres was putting should have had him warming the bench long long ago. irrespective of how high any manager rated sturridge, something different should have been tried and under normal circumstances would have been tried.

Reggardless. I see what you were trying to say with your previous statement, but I don't think it had anything to do with what I was talking about. I hadn't even mentioned or implied either managers.

I merely stated that Sturridge had been available for several months (give or take a few weeks injured and unfit), I wasn't making a statement about the managers nor was I implying anything about them. Merely stating the fact that Torres and Sturridge were the only strikers at the club.

[didierforever 7,349]

Reggardless. I see what you were trying to say with your previous statement, but I don't think it had anything to do with what I was talking about. I hadn't even mentioned or implied either managers.

I merely stated that Sturridge had been available for several months (give or take a few weeks injured and unfit), I wasn't making a statement about the managers nor was I implying anything about them. Merely stating the fact that Torres and Sturridge were the only strikers at the club.

i thought the discussion was about torres and if it was roman and the board's decision to play him or not. that is why i said what i said.

[Milan 17,957]

although we are better away from home under Benitez, 2-0 might be enough for Swans, unfortunately

this was yet another home game without actually scoring a goal - what a fortress

[Jase 43,479]

although we are better away from home under Benitez, 2-0 might be enough for Swans, unfortunately

After yesterday, Swansea's record against London opponents this season in all competitions reads - P8 W5 D2 L1.

this was yet another home game without actually scoring a goal - what a fortress

This is the 4th home game out of 6 under Benitez that we have failed to score.

[bushman 2,043]

All I read what Chelsea should have done, tactics by most of you here.

Somehow, not one of you care to admit the team is the slump & have been since November. Several flashy games, wins, against weaker teams have not convinced me otherwise. There are way too many clear chances that are not converted by players, like Mata, Ramires, Torres...Luiz seems to take over the midfield lately but most of the times kicks the ball into the bleachers.

What´s next, one might ask ?

Currently, we are looking at demoralized, lack of confidence team, under pressure from booing dimwits in the stadium.

Personally, I would not be surprised to see Chelsea getting beaten by Arsenal the following weekend. The result loss of 3rd place in the PL standings.