Fernando Torres

[Cosmin 2,484]

Just because Drogba is a legend doesnt mean that he was great all the team. Drogba will be remembered for all the fantastic things he did fo our club and the perfect finish he had on his career in chelsea. If torres would leave today I wouldnt really have that many good memories of him.

And dont foget that Drogba was 33 years old when its started to go down for him and struggled with injurys. Torres should be at his prime now.

Exactly!

[The Rising Sun 709]

Sometimes there's so many excuses for a player, they just look so hopeless, but really they can still become good, the code can be cracked.

But with Torres, i just cannot see it at all, i would bet a lot of money on him not becoming any better in the future, he's just worthless. I see nothing in this one, no legend material or anything.

This is a half joke, but 2 words : ANDY MURRAY

[Cosmin 2,484]

This is a half joke, but 2 words : ANDY MURRAY

Another two words: NADAL INJURED

[Tricky 301]

Just because Drogba is a legend doesnt mean that he was great all the team. Drogba will be remembered for all the fantastic things he did fo our club and the perfect finish he had on his career in chelsea. If torres would leave today I wouldnt really have that many good memories of him.

And dont foget that Drogba was 33 years old when its started to go down for him and struggled with injurys. Torres should be at his prime now.

I also remember Drogba in his first 18 months at Chelsea, his finishing was piss poor. Along with his attitude during that period. This was playing for a team which was easily the best in Europe, a team assembled to play to his strengths.

Anyways I'm not getting into it. Seems to be a lot of Torres bashing on the forum, I'm just glad those at the ground tend not to share those opinions, most still sing his name.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

oh i have an argument but you clearly dont get it so there is no point continuing this with you, i cant take you seriously after that previous post!

No, seriously, explain to me how a striker who has scored 9 goals in 50 matches, has been anything other than crap. But first let me just get rid of some of the usual arguments

1) Chelsea has no creativity-Juan Mata created 3.1 chances per game last season. The most of any single player in the Premier league. Overall, Mata ranked as creating the 2nd most chances in the Premier League, Lampard created the 7th most chances. Yes, two midfielders behind Torres were among the 7 most creative players in the Premier league last season. Chelsea was one of the most creative teams in the Premier league

2) Teams park the bus against Chelsea- No, they don't. Maybe they did a few years ago, but do you remember anyone in the past couple of years playing super defensively who didn't play super defensively anyway? (say, Stoke). Anyway, this argument is nonsense because teams like City, ManU, Arsenal, and Spurs all had their strikers score more and any team that would have played especially defensively against Chelsea would have done the same against them.

3) Teams go out of their way to stop Torres-Even if that's true, who cares? Every defence tries to stop the opposition's striker. Torres has gotten no more special treatment from defenders than Grant Holt.

4) We don't play the right system-Since Torres has come to Chelsea, we have had 3 coaches and 3 systems and Torres has been bad in all of them.

I'd love to hear what super secrets you have that justify not only accepting ineptitude but pretending ineptitude is actually world-class talent.

[Cosmin 2,484]

I'm just glad those at the ground tend not to share those opinions, most still sing his name.

That won't last for too long.

[Las7 951]

No, seriously, explain to me how a striker who has scored 9 goals in 50 matches, has been anything other than crap. But first let me just get rid of some of the usual arguments

1) Chelsea has no creativity-Juan Mata created 3.1 chances per game last season. The most of any single player in the Premier league. Overall, Mata ranked as creating the 2nd most chances in the Premier League, Lampard created the 7th most chances. Yes, two midfielders behind Torres were among the 7 most creative players in the Premier league last season. Chelsea was one of the most creative teams in the Premier league

2) Teams park the bus against Chelsea- No, they don't. Maybe they did a few years ago, but do you remember anyone in the past couple of years playing super defensively who didn't play super defensively anyway? (say, Stoke). Anyway, this argument is nonsense because teams like City, ManU, Arsenal, and Spurs all had their strikers score more and any team that would have played especially defensively against Chelsea would have done the same against them.

3) Teams go out of their way to stop Torres-Even if that's true, who cares? Every defence tries to stop the opposition's striker. Torres has gotten no more special treatment from defenders than Grant Holt.

4) We don't play the right system-Since Torres has come to Chelsea, we have had 3 coaches and 3 systems and Torres has been bad in all of them.

I'd love to hear what super secrets you have that justify not only accepting ineptitude but pretending ineptitude is actually world-class talent.

Spot on mate

[Kinol 337]

I also remember Drogba in his first 18 months at Chelsea, his finishing was piss poor. Along with his attitude during that period. This was playing for a team which was easily the best in Europe, a team assembled to play to his strengths.

Anyways I'm not getting into it. Seems to be a lot of Torres bashing on the forum, I'm just glad those at the ground tend not to share those opinions, most still sing his name.

Drogba was bought to Chelsea after just one good season and that was in the French ligue. Ofcouse he needed some time to adapt (and he still scored more goals than torres during his first 2 seasons in a new club, league and country). Compare that to Torres who was bought in after being dubbed as one of the best strikers in the world.

And there is a good reason why Drogbas attitude was bad in the begining, im not going to write it though. Check it up youself.

[Severinb 309]

Ivanovic also defended team-mate Fernando Torres, insisting the striker was "doing very well" and "fighting for every ball".

He added: "Sometimes he is alone without the support of others and it is very difficult to fight against three defenders."

[Kinol 337]

Ivanovic also defended team-mate Fernando Torres, insisting the striker was "doing very well" and "fighting for every ball".

He added: "Sometimes he is alone without the support of others and it is very difficult to fight against three defenders."

Well, its not like Ivanovic would go out in the media and say " Torres is shit and i want him out of the club."

[Pacquiao 1,834]

No, seriously, explain to me how a striker who has scored 9 goals in 50 matches, has been anything other than crap. But first let me just get rid of some of the usual arguments

1) Chelsea has no creativity-Juan Mata created 3.1 chances per game last season. The most of any single player in the Premier league. Overall, Mata ranked as creating the 2nd most chances in the Premier League, Lampard created the 7th most chances. Yes, two midfielders behind Torres were among the 7 most creative players in the Premier league last season. Chelsea was one of the most creative teams in the Premier league

2) Teams park the bus against Chelsea- No, they don't. Maybe they did a few years ago, but do you remember anyone in the past couple of years playing super defensively who didn't play super defensively anyway? (say, Stoke). Anyway, this argument is nonsense because teams like City, ManU, Arsenal, and Spurs all had their strikers score more and any team that would have played especially defensively against Chelsea would have done the same against them.

3) Teams go out of their way to stop Torres-Even if that's true, who cares? Every defence tries to stop the opposition's striker. Torres has gotten no more special treatment from defenders than Grant Holt.

4) We don't play the right system-Since Torres has come to Chelsea, we have had 3 coaches and 3 systems and Torres has been bad in all of them.

I'd love to hear what super secrets you have that justify not only accepting ineptitude but pretending ineptitude is actually world-class talent.

ok thanks for that, just repeating the same argument that everyone has heard a million times well done.

Now please explain to me who is even arguing whether Torres has been good or not? because i certainly wasn't!

just another reason why its so pointless having any kind of debate with you.

[Tricky 301]

Drogba was bought to Chelsea after just one good season and that was in the French ligue. Ofcouse he needed some time to adapt (and he still scored more goals than torres during his first 2 seasons in a new club, league and country). Compare that to Torres who was bought in after being dubbed as one of the best strikers in the world.

And there is a good reason why Drogbas attitude was bad in the begining, im not going to write it though. Check it up youself.

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Yes he did, in a team which dominated the domestic league. Drogba first full season saw him score 16 in all competitions. Torres scored 11 in a team which was struggling.

I'm not gonna hate on the guy like some in this forum. I still believe he has what it takes, he started well this year and I fully expect him to score 20 plus goals this season. Something Drogba only did twice.

[Kojo 4,676]

This is a half joke, but 2 words : ANDY MURRAY

Still more potential than Fernando Torres!.

Just tell him to do it with a football and he will still score more than Torres.

[Kinol 337]

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Yes he did, in a team which dominated the domestic league. Drogba first full season saw him score 16 in all competitions. Torres scored 11 in a team which was struggling.

I'm not gonna hate on the guy like some in this forum. I still believe he has what it takes, he started well this year and I fully expect him to score 20 plus goals this season. Something Drogba only did twice.

What concerns me of Torres is not really how many goals he will score but the goals and performances in the big games. Ive never really seen Torres play good against a good opponent. The most important games this season will be against the top teams. He always gets lost (like yesterday) and people always come with excuses for that (like yesterday). I mean if we really want to win the PL and CL again we have to get rid of Torres, im 100% sure of that.He just wont cut it as a main striker for us. I cant understand how any 1 that has seen torres play these last 2 seasons can say that opposite.

[Rambo 1,729]

I've given up on him as well, but I will give him till January to see what he can come up with.

[Kinol 337]

ok thanks for that, just repeating the same argument that everyone has heard a million times well done.

Now please explain to me who is even arguing whether Torres has been good or not? because i certainly wasn't!

just another reason why its so pointless having any kind of debate with you.

Well, the "Torres doesnt get any service" and "Torres just needs better confidence" is starting to get a bit old too...

[Manuf 1,448]

Wait, so if he has three players on his back he is supposed to stand near them like he always does? Because when I play football, I try to take away my cover so that my mates have a free space to run into. I guess it doesn't work that way for our wonder Fernando that the whole football community is trying to stop.

It's so sad that there is a huge group of fans that would rather Torres to score a fluke rather than us win a game.

Btw. is the a video editor on the forum that would sacrifice himself to make a video of Torres performances in all games this season? I know it's a hard task but it's an only way to show his attitude and overall gameplay.

[Manuf 1,448]

Well, the "Torres doesnt get any service" and "Torres just needs better confidence" is starting to get a bit old too...

I, for example, love the "he is ready to take after Drogba and lead us into a succesful season" bit.