The Benitez Thread

[Fulham Broadway 17,114]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:14, Stingray said:

Is there a poll out yet on the exact hour he gets sacked today?

Dont think it will happen today tbh. Could well happen at the weekend though. Fans will really go for it on Saturday

[English Freak 456]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:07, Fulham Broadway said:

To the 2000 last night.....If this turns out to be the tipping point for FSW I will be eternally grateful

to the 2000 who voiced their opinion last night, its a hell of a long way to go on a school night, and I salute you.

Rafa last night what a fool. By saying the club made a massive mistake making him interim manager not only alienates himself even more from the fans and the club but his lawyers, and agent when he signed the Interim Contract

PS WHS and Liquidator and someone else one here who i forget are teenagers/young and are regular attenders, know the history and forked out hard earned cash over land and sea

I dont get how sacking Rafa now would solve any of our problems.

His sacking just makes the Chelsea job even more unappealing/unattractive

And honestly, if we end up with someone like Pellegrini at the start of next season, I bet we screw up again...

[Melanicus 5,208]

http://www.hasrafabeensacked.com/

[Melanicus 5,208]

Knocking the fans: uncomfortable. Knocking the club: awkward. Knocking the Russian billionaire who called you 'interim': no return from that.

[BluesChick 1,260]

did he really admit he'd quit at the end of the season no matter what???

[gr123 167]

Can't argue with anything he said last night. If fans put half as much effort in cheering the team than they do with the stupid anti-Rafa songs then we wouldn't be in this position we are in now.

[gr123 167]

Can't argue with anything he said last night. If fans put half as much effort in cheering the team than they do with the stupid anti-Rafa songs then we wouldn't be in this position we are in now.

[The only place to be 11,313]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:31, gr123 said:

Can't argue with anything he said last night. If fans put half as much effort in cheering the team than they do with the stupid anti-Rafa songs then we wouldn't be in this position we are in now.

That's a little unfair. The players still have to do their stuff on the pitch and they haven't done that as much as they should. It's hard to say how much of that is down to the fans.

But I've been to matches where the support has lifted the team and we haven't done that in Rafa's time here. I don't know if we've made the team worse but I don't think we can say we've made it better.

[didierforever 7,349]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:32, gr123 said:

Can't argue with anything he said last night. If fans put half as much effort in cheering the team than they do with the stupid anti-Rafa songs then we wouldn't be in this position we are in now.

very true. i mean the only way teams win is we fans support them, right? it has got nothin to do with poor substitutions, awful team selections, horrendous motivational skills etc etc...

FSW is totally in the clear and should probably have a statue of himself erected out of SB for the wonderful, marvellous, out of the world work he has done in his time at chelsea.

[Special Juan 27,629]

Funny thing is the supporters where behind the team all night, sang loud but slated Rafa too.

Rafa wants to remember his comments about us from his Liverpool days, he surely wasn't expecting to come here and be loved, the blokes a cock.

[MHL 47 378]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:34, The only place to be said:

That's a little unfair. The players still have to do their stuff on the pitch and they haven't done that as much as they should. It's hard to say how much of that is down to the fans.

But I've been to matches where the support has lifted the team and we haven't done that in Rafa's time here. I don't know if we've made the team worse but I don't think we can say we've made it better.

I've thought for a while that us fans sometimes over-rate our impacts on the team. I'm sure we have an effect but it's not as large as we'd like to believe. The greater effect will be how much the players believe in the manager, how he makes them feel as a group, what they know about him already, how he compares to others they've experienced.

The second worst decision was to appoint him in the first place, in some respect he has been the 'victim' (very, very loose use of that word) of that decision. Again you know my thoughts on some of those people who made that decision.

The worst decison was to appoint De Matteo into a permanent role in the first place, if the owner & board had any doubts whatsoever that he would be here for the long-term (by 'long-term' I mean 2-3 years, in our relative terms)they should have taken the unpopular decision then. All they've done by delaying it is cause additional problems by doing it mid-season.

[bushman 2,043]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:34, The only place to be said:

That's a little unfair. The players still have to do their stuff on the pitch and they haven't done that as much as they should. It's hard to say how much of that is down to the fans.

But I've been to matches where the support has lifted the team and we haven't done that in Rafa's time here. I don't know if we've made the team worse but I don't think we can say we've made it better.

Would be able to do your job well if someone keeps yelling at you & telling you to hit the road ?

[The only place to be 11,313]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:52, MHL 47 said:

I've thought for a while that us fans sometimes over-rate our impacts on the team. I'm sure we have an effect but it's not as large as we'd like to believe. The greater effect will be how much the players believe in the manager, how he makes them feel as a group, what they know about him already, how he compares to others they've experienced.

The second worst decision was to appoint him in the first place, in some respect he has been the 'victim' (very, very loose use of that word) of that decision. Again you know my thoughts on some of those people who made that decision.

The worst decison was to appoint De Matteo into a permanent role in the first place, if the owner board had any doubts whatsoever that he would be here for the long-term (by 'long-term' I mean 2-3 years, in our relative terms)they should have taken the unpopular decision then. All they've done by delaying it is cause additional problems by doing it mid-season.

This was all the result of the 'Chase for Pep'. Hopefully we learn from our mistakes (something I've seen some signs of us doing).

The silver lining is that this is perhaps as bad as it can get (touch wood).

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:53, bushman said:

Would be able to do your job well if someone keeps yelling at you & telling you to hit the road ?

Have you met my wife?

[Fulham Broadway 17,114]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:21, Freak7820 said:

I dont get how sacking Rafa now would solve any of our problems.

His sacking just makes the Chelsea job even more unappealing/unattractive

And honestly, if we end up with someone like Pellegrini at the start of next season, I bet we screw up again...

Good point and we could end up with Avram till the end of the season, but we dont want FSW any longer -he can fuck off back to his house in Merseyside. Highlights how decisions at this club are a joke, and how the players play in spite of a manager mostly now anyway

[Blue Armour 4,376]

  On 28/02/2013 at 08:32, Steve said:

To be fair he is somewhat right. I mean the atmosphere of most games is horrible but the worst thing is this was happening well before Rafa took over. Now that's not so much for the away support but the home support is terrible. Surely one of the worst in the league and that's because half our fans are glory hunters. No word of a lie there if you go to the stadium you will see first hand most of them don't know what they're talking about.

I remember one game when Di Santo was about to come on for us and there was this young man sitting behind me pretending like he knew everything and then before Franco came on he said... "I don't know who this is, I think it's Zhirkov." Now it doesn't so much annoy me that he didn't know who he was but it annoyed me that he was pretending to be some sort of superior fan.

The worst thing is that he probably knew more than alot of the people in the stadium and that's because the board does not care about the real supporters, they care about money and money only. They would prefer to bump up the prices of tickets and have heaps of tourists at the bridge over an amazing atmosphere.

Sad, but your post is 100% true...

[mediator 2,026]

Board to discuss Benítez's future in meeting on Thursday

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/27/rafael-benitez-chelsea-outburst-fans-protest

[Fulham Broadway 17,114]

  On 28/02/2013 at 08:32, +Steve said:

The worst thing is that he probably knew more than alot of the people in the stadium and that's because the board does not care about the real supporters, they care about money and money only. They would prefer to bump up the prices of tickets and have heaps of tourists at the bridge over an amazing atmosphere.

On the money there Steve. TV money and 'customers. who come once or twice but spend loads on hospitality and in the Mugostore is what its about. Football will eat itself.

[Blue Armour 4,376]

  On 28/02/2013 at 10:40, didierforever said:

very true. i mean the only way teams win is we fans support them, right? it has got nothin to do with poor substitutions, awful team selections, horrendous motivational skills etc etc...

FSW is totally in the clear and should probably have a statue of himself erected out of SB for the wonderful, marvellous, out of the world work he has done in his time at chelsea.

So now...we not only have poor subs, awful team selections, and horrendous motiviational skills....but also a lack of home advantage??

Seriously...Chelsea FC deserves better....