Eden Hazard

[BlueLyon 9,359]

If he wants to dream about winning the ballon D'Or first he needs to start scoring 4 times the goals he scores and maybe he can get between the 3 best players.

Yeah because Neuer scored shitload of them goals.

Ronaldo and Messi are winning balon dors because they are simply best. Not just because goals. Those two are best players and thats why they win it. Sneider or Ribery or Neuer had successful team runs, but individualy, Messi or Ronaldo were better. Its not just because of the goals scored.

Hazard has many levels to climb and he can do that without scoring many goals. Few more key actions yes, but he doesnt have to score 20 or 30 goals. If we win PL, CL, and Hazard plays key role there, he will be among best. Same goes for his performances for belgium.

When will people understand goals aint everything. Cannavaro, Zidane etc never scored many goals yet won the award.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Yeah because Neuer scored shitload of them goals.

Ronaldo and Messi are winning balon dors because they are simply best. Not just because goals. Those two are best players and thats why they win it. Sneider or Ribery or Neuer had successful team runs, but individualy, Messi or Ronaldo were better. Its not just because of the goals scored.

Hazard has many levels to climb and he can do that without scoring many goals. Few more key actions yes, but he doesnt have to score 20 or 30 goals. If we win PL, CL, and Hazard plays key role there, he will be among best. Same goes for his performances for belgium.

When will people understand goals aint everything. Cannavaro, Zidane etc never scored many goals yet won the award.

If you're ignoring the whole historical context, then yes, goals don't matter.

However, due to Ronaldo and Messi's goal scoring achievements these last few years the criteria have shifted as we're witnessing two absolutely dominant goal scorers for the first time in over a decade when the real Ronaldo was around. And mind you, not even he scored a goal per game like Messi and CR are doing.

When Zidane won in 1998 he was coming off a league title with Juventus and a WC win with France scoring crucial goals at crucial times (note: In 1998 there wasn't a single dominant goal scorer). In 2000 Zidane had just won the Euros with France, again putting his trademark on the whole tournament. And yet again there wasn't a player as dominant at goal scoring as CR and Ronaldo are. When he won it in 2003, Henry probably would have been more deserving (2004 even more so) but Zidane was playing in one of the best teams ever as the brain of that team which eventually gave him the nod over everybody else.

As for Cannavaro winning the title in 2006, one could argue that he won mostly due to the lack of competition (and Italy's suprising WC, obviously). The next 4 in the votings that year (Zidane, Henry, Ronaldinho and Eto'o) all had either a disappointing season or a bad WC which effected them negatively.

You're right in that sense that it's not just the goals that are the cause of Messi and CR winning all these awards but it's the goals that show just how good these two guys are.

[Tomo 21,733]

For players like Hazard, it's simple. Playing for a team with the following characteristics. Big trophies, important league competition, playing CL football, playing positive/attacking football, big wages. We've offered him everything so far except the big trophies and attacking football. He also knows that playing for a manager who is going to ask him to play as a second left back in the biggest matches where the whole world is watching will hurt his chances to win the big individual awards, so even if we win the league, I won't be surprised if he still doesn't sign the contract.

The attacking football?

I think we have delivered that this season and then some.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

The attacking football?

I think we have delivered that this season and then some.

I think he means in the big games.

[robsblubot 3,504]

Eden has had a few pretty quiet games. He wasn't bad, but I expect a lot more from him

I noticed last season that Hazard struggles to make a difference when he plays often and Jose overplays him a bit.

Just to clarify, his elegance, first touch, beautiful turns, and dribbling, mean absolutely nothing to me if they don't translate into assists or goals.

[iseah100 5,612]

Eden has had a few pretty quiet games. He wasn't bad, but I expect a lot more from him

I noticed last season that Hazard struggles to make a difference when he plays often and Jose overplays him a bit.

Just to clarify, his elegance, first touch, beautiful turns, and dribbling, mean absolutely nothing to me if they don't translate into assists or goals.

Every player has quiet games. Even Messi and Ronaldo. Eden has been sensational this season, our most important player and if we fail to win the PL this year I'm almost positive he will leave.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Barcelona would definitely be in for him. He suits their style to a tee. Bayern, Barcelona, Madrid and PSG would all be in for him. Think he'll leave if we don't win titles this season.

Eventually coming down to a swap with Neymar/Suarez...sure

[robsblubot 3,504]

Every player has quiet games. Even Messi and Ronaldo. Eden has been sensational this season, our most important player and if we fail to win the PL this year I'm almost positive he will leave.

what does this have to do with what I wrote? I am fully aware that players have quiet games, though Messi has fewer than any other player (including Ronaldo).

My point was specific about the past few games where Hazard has had little to no contribution in attack. And I think it has to do with little rest.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

It was a massive injustice that he didn't score after that wonderful show of dribbling to get past those 3-4 Liverpool players.

[Polo7 3,496]

Brilliant. Just Brilliant!

[DH1988 1,273]

Thought the worst when he seemed to be in his own world at the start of the match but Eden switched it ON.

[yuvala 2,167]

This guy is on fire

[Tautvix 1,321]

I want a gif of that run!

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Completely bossed the game. Even had the intelligence to kill the game immediately after Ivanovic's winner.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Why he has such bad luck? If he was just bit more clinical or gk wasnt pulling the save of his life, he would have 10 more goals at least.

That run was just unreal.

[yuvala 2,167]

Why he has such bad luck? If he was just bit more clinical or gk wasnt pulling the save of his life, he would have 10 more goals at least.

That run was just unreal.

Mostly not so clinical finishing,

Hopefuly he can work on that.

[zolayes 14,489]

NO complaints he is magnificent

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

It was a massive injustice that he didn't score after that wonderful show of dribbling to get past those 3-4 Liverpool players.

Left foot as well. Would have been one of the best goals ever scored in the League Cup.