Tomo 21,751 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 This is one of the most unstable, unpredictable, overspending clubs in history: But I love this club. There's nothing else to add to this. That's all.The first but is untrue, we have an owner and captain that has stayed the same for nearly a decade. So we might change manager's but other clubs who have stable manager's have problems with their owners and change captain every season, what's the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 People just jump on the bandwagon about 'you can't keep having lots of managers' why don't you piss off and go tell that to Inter Milan or Real Madrid. Inter Milan have been poor of late, but look how many titles they have won, they won about 5 or 6 titles in a row and dominated the Serie A. Look at Madrids success, yeah Barca do get ahead of them but you need to accept that.So if we had left the job to Scoliari, we wouldn't of found Carlo and i seriously doubt we would've won a double and scored so many goals that season. Probably the best ever season we had under Carlo.To be honest does anyone ever stop to consider that Roman was tired of the sloping?, maybe he is sick of our stupid slow starts in november. Yeah it's strict but it's fucking pathetic, we aren't title contenders if we are going to lose every game in the last two months of the year, I'm sick of the november and december results we've been pulling out recently.Get a manager who can cut that shit, maybe Di Matteo might of been dominent, maybe not. But hell if we get a good manager we will know about it, and that's a positive in Romans ways. People just look at a trigger happy Roman instead of the alternatives about him, Roman is a legend and i doubt i will ever disrespect him, not for what he's done for this club. Rmpr, Muzchap, Tomo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 @,We have history before Roman. An unstable history. We almost went into liquidation. We almost didn't exist. We went up and down divisions. We had one of the shittest owners in history in the form of Ken Bates. God knows how he got into football.We've then had a decade of managers. We've had all these off the pitch issues recently after being relatively quiet when it came to off the pitch. We spend literally around £100million each season at the moment it would seem on players, when collectively they're worth not even half that most the time.We're constantly making losses and not a profit.Last season we didn't even finish in the top 4 yet still won 2 trophies. Before that, we'd been in the top 4 for around a decade.We've now got a strange policy when it comes to 'older' players meaning even if they're among the best left backs in history, we'll just let them go because we won't spend a bit extra on his contract and instead pump it into the likes of Torres' and new staff to make him happy.There's a big difference between us and other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujo101 75 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 @,We have history before Roman. An unstable history. We almost went into liquidation. We almost didn't exist. We went up and down divisions. We had one of the shittest owners in history in the form of Ken Bates. God knows how he got into football.We've then had a decade of managers. We've had all these off the pitch issues recently after being relatively quiet when it came to off the pitch. We spend literally around £100million each season at the moment it would seem on players, when collectively they're worth not even half that most the time.We're constantly making losses and not a profit.Last season we didn't even finish in the top 4 yet still won 2 trophies. Before that, we'd been in the top 4 for around a decade.We've now got a strange policy when it comes to 'older' players meaning even if they're among the best left backs in history, we'll just let them go because we won't spend a bit extra on his contract and instead pump it into the likes of Torres' and new staff to make him happy.There's a big difference between us and other clubs.'Uncle' Ken Bates may not have been my favourite person in the world but without his pitchowners scheme, we probably wouldn't have a club and for that I'm forever grateful. One of the shittest owners in history? I don't think so. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 People just jump on the bandwagon about 'you can't keep having lots of managers' why don't you piss off and go tell that to Inter Milan or Real Madrid. Inter Milan have been poor of late, but look how many titles they have won, they won about 5 or 6 titles in a row and dominated the Serie A. Look at Madrids success, yeah Barca do get ahead of them but you need to accept that.So if we had left the job to Scoliari, we wouldn't of found Carlo and i seriously doubt we would've won a double and scored so many goals that season. Probably the best ever season we had under Carlo.To be honest does anyone ever stop to consider that Roman was tired of the sloping?, maybe he is sick of our stupid slow starts in november. Yeah it's strict but it's fucking pathetic, we aren't title contenders if we are going to lose every game in the last two months of the year, I'm sick of the november and december results we've been pulling out recently.Get a manager who can cut that shit, maybe Di Matteo might of been dominent, maybe not. But hell if we get a good manager we will know about it, and that's a positive in Romans ways. People just look at a trigger happy Roman instead of the alternatives about him, Roman is a legend and i doubt i will ever disrespect him, not for what he's done for this club.Most probably the best post i have ever read on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayZ 201 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Can someone tell me what Roman is actually talking about in this video?Is it related to football at all?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aufFa8Ad9iY&feature=player_detailpage BlueSanti 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,959 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Strike, bloody and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,333 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 No Piers, Abramovich has supplied millions of pieces of paper called money, acquired from the Russian people, that has enabled 8 managers to buy expensive players that have gelled together, to produce at times mouth watering football and trophies.Although his club at seems like one of his yachts, with a captain that he sacks and gets another at will, there is an old saying -'do not bite the hand that feeds you'. For that reason we need to swallow our pride if we want 'brand Chelsea' to continue to be succesful. BlueSanti, Rmpr and bloody 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Can someone tell me what Roman is actually talking about in this video?Is it related to football at all?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aufFa8Ad9iY&feature=player_detailpageIs this Roman Voice ? If yes than at last i heard Roman voice Chelsea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 No we can not.He brought a cunt and he should know what we do think about the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 No we can not.He brought a cunt and he should know what we do think about the whole thing.Why because he slagged us off in the past? you really think Lampard, Terry and Cole didn't slagg us off at any point growing up as West Ham, United and Arsenal fans respectively?Roman always does what he thinks is best for the club, as an interim appointment Benitez is as good as we are going to get. Muzchap and bloody 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJewel 56 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I for one, don't mind when managers are sacked, it is a proven formula. After Ranieri, Mourinho won the league and got close to winning the Champions league a couple of times, Grant did one better than Mou, by reaching the final when Mou was sacked, he was a John Terry kick away from winning.Scolari was a mistake, but he was duly sacked and Chelsea could have won the Champions league, had Overebo not put on his Barca kit. Ancelotti did better by winning the league, but his second season was below par and he was duly sacked. AVB, was being AVB until he was sacked, RDM won the Champions league and the FA Cup.I hate Benitez but I love Chelsea more, I hope he wins the league, the Club world cup and the Europa League? I don't know but I have a good feeling about this season. Chelsea has maintained consistency but unlike Arsenal are consistency lies with the players not the managers and the results are there to show. bloody 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Ollie 4,400 Posted November 25, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted November 25, 2012 Everyone else sack their managers for a reason. There was no need to sack di Matteo as far as i'm concerned. It's ok to say everyone else does it but Real Madrid did it because they were having really bad UCL campaigns. Tottenham did it because they were doing genuinely shit in the league, 'arry took over when they had 2 points from their first 8 games and most or all the teams who have changed managers willy nilly changed because they weren't doing so well. This was a season for us where we we doing really well, we weren't expecting to win everything but we were in a good position. Drogba leaving, Lampard getting older and almost ready to call it a day and JT being banned/injured along with us signing many young players suggested to me that we were now building for the future and not the present. Our target was simply to get into the top 4 which we were on course for.I don't think anyone is expecting someone to be here for 10-20 years but 3-5 would be nice just to get a settled feel. We win trophies because we have money and a rich owner, not because we change managers. When a manager comes, he changes things, he works on his methods, plays his formations and uses his players. It may not work straight away but it can worked on or changed. If you change the manager, you're starting again and learning something different again and suddenly you might find yourself in matches or situations that you don't know how to win because you haven't worked on it yet.We have dropped points because of bad luck. We've won at WHL and the Emirates, we were outstanding against Man Utd after going 2-0 down. I just get the feel that if Robbie had stayed for say 3 years, in that time, this team would've been fantastic. We've been better than i anticipated anyway for me, we shouldn't be this good with Hazard and Oscar in their first season playing every game and Mata who's the longest servant of the trio being a Chelsea player for about a year! Some of the football we have played has been breathtaking and in my honest opinion, sacking Robbie for Rafa has halted the progress and put us back a step when we were heading very much in the right direction.Although i do agree with much of the first post, i do believe that Robbie would've been an outstanding manager for us given time and Roman, regardless of how much he has done for us, is making horrible decisions. If we had kept our managers for longer, especially Jose, we would've won just as many trophies that we have anyway, maybe even more. I know we would've won fucking everything in 2008 if Jose had stayed, i'm convinced by that.Look for the right manager and fucking well keep him. BlueSanti, zolayes, TorontoChelsea and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 People should accept the fact that the owner of Chelsea FC is a ruthless individual that doesn't take underperforming very lightly and always wants to win. If he sees someone not getting the results needed he will act instantly. That's the way it is. I have accepted this fact and moved on. i suggest you people do it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Why because he slagged us off in the past? you really think Lampard, Terry and Cole didn't slagg us off at any point growing up as West Ham, United and Arsenal fans respectively?Roman always does what he thinks is best for the club, as an interim appointment Benitez is as good as we are going to get.Excuse me if I am wrong but are those players mentioned above mostly known among us as persons who disrespect us?I agree that Roman allways does what he thinks is best for the club but that doesn't mean he can't be wrong or criticised from time to time. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badenblue 21 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Roman's method's get's result's, period.Our stability is Roman, and believe me id rather change managers and have a dedicated owner than vice versa.Now if you ask the two English clubs who are in a better position now compared to 10 years ago most will say (after City) Chelsea and Spurs, surprise, surprise the two serial manager changing clubs off the last decade, but what both clubs have is stability upstairs, which is much more important.managerial changes here and abroad are not going away, so best get use to it.Roman's method's get's a degree of result's agreed, how much better would those results have been, if we had a Manager who could build a dynasty? same, less or more, I know where my money would lie, Jose & Carlo would have won the CL, long before we eventually did, if they had been allowed to build without interference.Why can we not have both? a Owner & Manager building together.Tottenham! what have they won in the last 10 years, chopping and changing, so it does not work for them, Chelsea would have more Trophys under a long serving manager I am convinced of it, Jose set the standard, and the players he coached into a never say die mentality, still show that same desire today, that is what has carried us through these past years, would it not have been better if he was here orchastrating the team? IMHO yes.Managerial changes abroad are changing, Barcelona chop and changed there mangers, then they decide to stick with a manager, now look at them, same with Real Madrid, who decided to stick with a manager, just happen to be a certain Jose Mourinho, now why would they get rid of successful managers?One Question, which club has won the most Trophy's? Utd with a settled manager or Chelsea with a assortment of managers. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Money can really buy everything. Apparently because of the money he invested Roman cannot possibly be wrong. Every decision our Russian makes has to be correct. I just wonder why do we have a board, what exactly do those people do ? zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Can someone tell me what Roman is actually talking about in this video?Is it related to football at all? Not related to football at all. As much as I gathered it was some boring talk about a company and acquiring stuff legally. It seemed like Roman was defending some of the transactions he made. LayZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badenblue 21 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Why because he slagged us off in the past? you really think Lampard, Terry and Cole didn't slagg us off at any point growing up as West Ham, United and Arsenal fans respectively?Have you ever heard/read of them slag Chelsea off? JT was a fan of Utd in his younger days, but grew up at Chelsea, would not think he would ever had, Coley was a die hard Chelsea fan, but prefered WH to begin his career, but soon put that right, Lamps! well surely everyone knows how the hammers fan treated Frank even when he was playing for them, where did "Fat Frankie" come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayZ 201 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Have you ever heard/read of them slag Chelsea off? JT was a fan of Utd in his younger days, but grew up at Chelsea, would not think he would ever had, Coley was a die hard Chelsea fan, but prefered WH to begin his career, but soon put that right, Lamps! well surely everyone knows how the hammers fan treated Frank even when he was playing for them, where did "Fat Frankie" come from?Maybe he was referring to the other Cole...but I can't remember him slagging Chelsea off as an Arsenal player or fan...if any of them thought ill of Chelsea and didn't express it we can't grudge them that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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