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2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

what Klopp is other than Mourinho is a pally character. He does not need to command full obedience and loyalty from his players for his authority to stand. Klopp is like the players big brother or best mate so he won't fall out with them as quickly and unreparable. Once Mourinho has lost a few players he loses the squad and consequently his job. Klopp does not have this demand of being perfect so he also doesn't need to find a culprit to blame when things go wrong. He can work on a solution together with the players. Mou's approach works brilliantly with mature, devoted characters (Zanetti, Lampard, Drogba, Lucio etc), who accept his authority and intromit but Klopp's is superior when dealing with youthfully exuberant sides, who still have to learn how to deal with their failures and amibitons. Consequently, klopps luck ran out as soon as the Dortmund and Mainz sides had matured. 

This is spot on. Mou is cold when it comes to players. He has his favorites that he'll never throw under the bus or freeze out like Didier, Lamps, Cech, but he's ruthless with most players if they "wrong" him on the pitch. Klopp seems to genuinely love his players and care for them whereas José treats them like assets or tools.

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3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

This is spot on. Mou is cold when it comes to players. He has his favorites that he'll never throw under the bus or freeze out like Didier, Lamps, Cech, but he's ruthless with most players if they "wrong" him on the pitch. Klopp seems to genuinely love his players and care for them whereas José treats them like assets or tools.

Great analysis as always. I am wondering what you think about Conte compared to these two?

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1 minute ago, 11Drogba said:

Great analysis as always. I am wondering what you think about Conte compared to these two?

Unfortunately I can't compare them as I didn't watch Juventus regularly. Judging by what his former superstar players like Pirlo and Buffon have said about him we may have the perfect man to bring us forward. 

All comes down to how much the board and owner back him in the market.

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You guys not only that have pushed that panic button, but you fucking crushed it :lol:  I feel that you're overreacting big time. Ok, Dortmund is a great team, but Bundesliga is as tactically clueless as EPL. Dortmund threw that lead away because they can't defend for shit, they are not made to defend. They looked like a deer caught in headlights as soon as Liverpool moved their lines 20 meters further up the pitch. They were a trainwreck defensively, absolute garbage, and by garbage I mean Liverpool under Brendan Rodgers type of garbage. 

Sevilla and Villarreal are awaiting in the semis and that's the end for Liverpool. Spanish teams are tactically astute and Liverpool will be in all kinds of problems when meeting organised defences and teams with an actual game plan. 

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Those Germans are goons.
I placed a small bet on the scousers, it was dead and forgotten and I went out to buy fags.
Then all of a sudden 3-3.
I put more money on them -at 4.30 now- but for the last 10 minutes they were not attacking.
Thankfully they did in the end.


 

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27 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

You guys not only that have pushed that panic button, but you fucking crushed it :lol:  I feel that you're overreacting big time. Ok, Dortmund is a great team, but Bundesliga is as tactically clueless as EPL. Dortmund threw that lead away because they can't defend for shit, they are not made to defend. They looked like a deer caught in headlights as soon as Liverpool moved their lines 20 meters further up the pitch. They were a trainwreck defensively, absolute garbage, and by garbage I mean Liverpool under Brendan Rodgers type of garbage. 

Sevilla and Villarreal are awaiting in the semis and that's the end for Liverpool. Spanish teams are tactically astute and Liverpool will be in all kinds of problems when meeting organised defences and teams with an actual game plan. 

I want to see Liverpool vs Sevilla. 

That would be a great match up. 

Sevilla is still the title holder.... 

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14 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I want to see Liverpool vs Sevilla. 

That would be a great match up. 

Sevilla is still the title holder.... 

Villarreal would be a tough draw, too. That defence is impenetrable at times, they're a bit like Atletico. And that dude Bailly is a rock at the back. 

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Great comeback by Pool.

Also, the usual suspects still moaning about Mourinho :lol: When in fact last season we won a league title and a league cup all down to him and his "boring, clueless, all defence" tactics.

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32 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Villarreal would be a tough draw, too. That defence is impenetrable at times, they're a bit like Atletico. And that dude Bailly is a rock at the back. 

And Bakambu in attack!

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1 hour ago, petre.ispirescu said:

You guys not only that have pushed that panic button, but you fucking crushed it :lol:  I feel that you're overreacting big time. Ok, Dortmund is a great team, but Bundesliga is as tactically clueless as EPL. Dortmund threw that lead away because they can't defend for shit, they are not made to defend. They looked like a deer caught in headlights as soon as Liverpool moved their lines 20 meters further up the pitch. They were a trainwreck defensively, absolute garbage, and by garbage I mean Liverpool under Brendan Rodgers type of garbage. 

Sevilla and Villarreal are awaiting in the semis and that's the end for Liverpool. Spanish teams are tactically astute and Liverpool will be in all kinds of problems when meeting organised defences and teams with an actual game plan. 

I kind of disagree here. I think Liverpool have a fantastic chance of winning the thing. True, they're terrible defensively, but so is every other side in Europe. This being their best chance of silverware in a while and with their hopes of top 4 gone they'll be gunning for this like mad knowing that it's a way into the CL now.

 

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