Alvaro Negredo

[Beepu 1,714]

tbh if we are going to buy a striker whos going to be backup id rather bony who is cheaper and younger

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Why people here keep saying if player is cheap he isnt good enough to be striker? Why cant you see Negredo, Bony or whoever to be our starter? They could turn great and we wouldnt spend much money...yet you guys dont even give a chance to these players. Buy cheap striker to be our backup...he cost few milions, he shouldnt be our main striker, look at Manchesters, we need Falcao in summer...blahblahblah...

I. Dont. Understand.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Why people here keep saying if player is cheap he isnt good enough to be striker? Why cant you see Negredo, Bony or whoever to be our starter? They could turn great and we wouldnt spend much money...yet you guys dont even give a chance to these players. Buy cheap striker to be our backup...he cost few milions, he shouldnt be our main striker, look at Manchesters, we need Falcao in summer...blahblahblah...

I. Dont. Understand.

So simple and so easy to see. We are CFC, a club that since the begining for the century is fighting for the best positions in every tournament it plays, we need the best striker we can find to continue to lead us to more victories. We are not Newcastle or West Ham, who can gamble 10million on a player and give him 1-2 seasons to see if he is good enough for the team.

Look at Manure, they had Berbatov, Rooney and Hernadez to lead their attack. It is good enough isnt it? NO. SAF knew that for them to maintain their lead he needed not only to buy a super striker, but to steal him from his rivals. He bought RVP and look at the difference. Just like Barcelona a few years ago, they had Pedro, Villa and Iniesta for the same position, but they went after Alexis Sanches. Same as Bayern, but in a much smaller scale, they could just stick with Mario Gomez, but they went for Mandzukic. Etc...

Even if you don't agree, don't fool yourself thinking that if Negredo arrives scoring 20-30 goals, Roman will give up on Falcao/Cavani. One will still come in a bombastic transaction and the manager will have pressure to give him enough playing time.

[Corner 456]

So simple and so easy to see. We are CFC, a a club that since the begining for the century is fighting for the best positions in every tournament it plays, we need the best striker we can find to continue to lead us to more victories. We are not Newcastle or West Ham, who can gamble 10mi in a player and give him 1-2 seasons to see if he is good enough for the team.

Look at Manure, they had Berbatov, Rooney and Hernadez to lead their attack. It is good enough isnt it? NO. SAF knew that for them to maintain their lead he needed not only to buy a super striker, but to steal him from his rivals. He bought RVP and look at the difference. Just like Barcelona a few years ago, they had Pedro, Villa and Iniesta for the same position, but they went after Alexis Sanches. Same as Bayern, but in a much smaller scale, they could just stick with Mario Gomez, but they went for Mandzukic. Etc...

Even if you don't agree, don't fool yourself thinking that if Negredo arrives scoring 20-30 goals, Roman will give up on Falcao/Cavani. One will still come in a bombastic transaction and the manager will have pressure to give him enough playing time.

I agree with all of this. But you made one mistake.

Pedro and Villa play the same positions, but Iniesta doesn't actualy play as a wide striker very often anymore. He's usually the more advanced player of the 3 in midfield. And Alexis was bought for the same position as Pedro and Villa, like you said, but that was to provide another option. They needed more power to go their pace. Pedro may be quick, but he's not strong. Alexis constantly harasses defences, which is why he is still being chosen over Villa for most games, even though he is off-form in terms of goalscoring.

A very good point though. We do need to consistently buy or produce top players. And Chelsea don't exactly depend on producing talent, so we buy. But every once in a while, a cheap buy can be very useful. For example, we picked up Azpilicueta for 7 million pounds, an absolute bargain if you ask me! And Moses (who was bought for around 10 million pounds I think?) may not be one of the biggest names in football, but he gives us that other option or Plan B.

For a top club, it's finding the right balance between buying world-class proven players and finding the odd bargain that is so important, in my opinion. United have done this very well over the years. Buying players like Rooney, Van Persie and Berbatov, but also Hernandez (who is an excellent Plan B for them).

[Rmpr 8,977]

I agree with all of this. But you made one mistake.

Pedro and Villa play the same positions, but Iniesta doesn't actualy play as a wide striker very often anymore. He's usually the more advanced player of the 3 in midfield. And Alexis was bought for the same position as Pedro and Villa, like you said, but that was to provide another option. They needed more power to go their pace. Pedro may be quick, but he's not strong. Alexis constantly harasses defences, which is why he is still being chosen over Villa for most games, even though he is off-form in terms of goalscoring.

They are all LW in FIFA.

I don't like Barcelona, so I don't really know them that well (I still watch their games though). You have a much better knowledge than I do, so I can't argue.

A very good point though. We do need to consistently buy or produce top players. And Chelsea don't exactly depend on producing talent, so we buy. But every once in a while, a cheap buy can be very useful. For example, we picked up Azpilicueta for 7 million pounds, an absolute bargain if you ask me! And Moses (who was bought for around 10 million pounds I think?) may not be one of the biggest names in football, but he gives us that other option or Plan B.

For a top club, it's finding the right balance between buying world-class proven players and finding the odd bargain that is so important, in my opinion. United have done this very well over the years. Buying players like Rooney, Van Persie and Berbatov, but also Hernandez (who is an excellent Plan B for them).

EXACTLY!

Although, what I understood from his post was that if Negredo comes and start scoring for fun, there is no need for a big striker to come. I completely disagree.

I mean, I would love for us to buy a 10million striker that scores 20-30 goals/season, but we still need a big name to at least rotate with him. Your example of RVP and Hernandez is spot on. I always believe a squad must have the perfect blend of start power and small names, only good cheap players dont work (NewCastle) and only big names neither (Real Madrid).

[Corner 456]

I don't like Barcelona, so I don't really know them that well (I still watch their games though). You have a much better knowledge than I do, so I can't argue.

I'm not trying to come across as some Barcelona know-it-all mate. I was just nitpicking anyway.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I'm not trying to come across as some Barcelona know-it-all mate. I was just nitpicking anyway.

No, definetly not what I meant. I was just saying, dont know them really well so you must be right!

[Spike 12,049]

Fuck Barcelona.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

So simple and so easy to see. We are CFC, a club that since the begining for the century is fighting for the best positions in every tournament we play, we need the best striker we can find to continue to lead us to more victories. We are not Newcastle or West Ham, who can gamble 10million on a player and give him 1-2 seasons to see if he is good enough for the team.

Look at Manure, they had Berbatov, Rooney and Hernadez to lead their attack. It is good enough isnt it? NO. SAF knew that for them to maintain their lead he needed not only to buy a super striker, but to steal him from his rivals. He bought RVP and look at the difference. Just like Barcelona a few years ago, they had Pedro, Villa and Iniesta for the same position, but they went after Alexis Sanches. Same as Bayern, but in a much smaller scale, they could just stick with Mario Gomez, but they went for Mandzukic. Etc...

Even if you don't agree, don't fool yourself thinking that if Negredo arrives scoring 20-30 goals, Roman will give up on Falcao/Cavani. One will still come in a bombastic transaction and the manager will have pressure to give him enough playing time.

Agree, but I was saying that you dont need to spend fortune to find world class striker. Some strikers that would shine in bigger clubs are also very cheap. And IF Negredo would score 30 goals in one season for us and Roman would still go after 50mio Falcao just to have mega transfer we would be officialy most stupid club in world.

Maybe we should start creating our own stars, not just buying them. Yp, we are Chelsea, but we are also in transition (for this and next season for sure) and maybe we should take risk with a cheap striker till at least summer. If it works and he becomes sensation, hell we wouldnt need Falcao or whoever else then. We had ONE Drogba for like 8 years. City has 4 strikers now and they are SHIT in CL. All Im saying Quality ahead of quantity, we just need to find that quality. Drogba was less good than Negredo is now, when he joined Chelsea. But he became world class striker and we didnt pay fortune for him. He was still big risk for 25mio, but look what he did for us.

All I try to tell is that I hope Chelsea finds such potential player, not overpays for him and makes little gamble. Or would you like to have Falcao who might flop and has BIG chances to do that?

Besides Rvp cost United 25mio. That is not 50. You cant compare that together. Fact.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

"second striker to compliment.. Torres"

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Agree, but I was saying that you dont need to spend fortune to find world class striker. Some strikers that would shine in bigger clubs are also very cheap. And IF Negredo would score 30 goals in one season for us and Roman would still go after 50mio Falcao just to have mega transfer we would be officialy most stupid club in world.

Nail. Hit. On. Head.

[StrategiC 73]

I would take Lewandowski instead of Negredo. Both of them are approximately the same price with a huge difference in the amount of quality.

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

I would take Lewandowski instead of Negredo. Both of them are approximately the same price with a huge difference in the amount of quality.

Lewandowski isn't available until the summer though. Same with United wanting Kagawa last year in January, Dortmund told them to wait until the summer and then it happened. We need a CF in January more than anything, especially since Torres is still terrible.

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.football-espana.net/27167/sevilla-negredo-sale-necessary

Marca believe that Sevilla’s financial situation is such that they will have to sell Alvaro Negredo this coming January.

The club announced at their recent AGM a first deficit in the accounts during Jose Maria del Nido’s tenure as President, with Del Nido hinting at the time that players will likely be sold in the coming months to help balance the books.

Sevilla’s losses for the last year were put at €15.2m, with the explanation that a further €7.2m loss was written off in the form of deferred payments to the Hacienda (tax office) until 2013, in anticipation of future revenue covering that.

Marca today believe that the payments deferred were based on taxes owed on player wages for October and November of this year and on VAT owed and that the income expected to come in to cover that money is only through player sales in January.

It is reported that only the recently capped Spanish international striker Negredo is seen as the viable asset that can raise enough money that the club need to ensure their financial obligation is met.

The 27-year-old former Real Madrid B man has scored just over 50 goals during his three-and-a-half years so far spent with Los Nervionenses.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Is there anyone decent we can sign from seville instead of negredo(taking advantage of their financial crisis)?Fazio or somebody like that.