Frank Lampard

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How much should we be offering and for how long?

Is it verboten for one to suggest that beyond his two goals, he had a pretty average game today?

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

How much should we be offering and for how long?

Is it verboten for one to suggest that beyond his two goals, he had a pretty average game today?

I actually thought it was his worst game in a while (his passing had been great, but he was pressured a lot and made some poor passes especially in the first half) but he scored two goals and we won 2-1 so overall, that's still a fantastic game. As for how much and how long, none of us know what he's asking for, so it's impossible to comment really but I highly doubt that his demands are so crazy, Chelsea couldn't possibly afford them.

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I actually thought it was his worst game in a while (his passing had been great, but he was pressured a lot and made some poor passes especially in the first half) but he scored two goals and we won 2-1 so overall, that's still a fantastic game. As for how much and how long, none of us know what he's asking for, so it's impossible to comment really but I highly doubt that his demands are so crazy, Chelsea couldn't possibly afford them.

bypassed in the first half hour but soon grew in prominence. got in the faces of those everton mids later on. started badly but i don't think the goals are 'hiding' a bad performance.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

bypassed in the first half hour but soon grew in prominence. got in the faces of those everton mids later on. started badly but i don't think the goals are 'hiding' a bad performance.

I agree with that. It wasn't a bad performance, but he's been excellent recently without scoring and the rest of his game was worse today than it's been recently. BTW, just saw this stat...

Chelsea with Lampard this season-11 games-10 wins

Without Lampard-8 games, 1 win.

[OneMoSalah 8,615]

Give him 12 months with an option for another 12 based on appearances. Same with Cole. I'm sure both would get at least 20 appearances or whatever the contract appearances would be. Lampard is a decent option to throw on when we need a goal, he will be used more as a squad player but still a good one at that.

[didierforever 7,349]

GIVE HIM THE BLOODY EXTENSION NOW!!!!!!!!!

[chelseathebest 150]

I bet you weren't saying that when Hazard was convinced to come here instead of United or City.

The situation with Torres is different to Lampard, Lampard is out of contract this summer, Torres is not.

Im all for getting Torres off the wagebill but we need to find a buyer.

Doesn't matter.

Our fucking board convinced Torres to stay after CL finals.

They started this season with ONLY him as striker.

How can you start a season with only Torres as striker when it is clear that he is bad? Even if he was good, he'd need some backup. How can you explain that?

And buying Hazard doesn't show that our board is capable. They just offered him more money than others and luckily we became champions at that time so we were the most attractive destination for him.

[Milan 17,835]

Wish he kissed the badge like he used to do.

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Give him 12 months with an option for another 12 based on appearances. Same with Cole. I'm sure both would get at least 20 appearances or whatever the contract appearances would be. Lampard is a decent option to throw on when we need a goal, he will be used more as a squad player but still a good one at that.

On how much p/w? It's tough for a guy who was a top earner to then take a pay cut and it does affect the way people act around one another. Plus let's be honest, he'll still be on around £100K p/w along with Cole which is around £10 million p/a on the wage bill of a club who made just £1 million profit in the first year of FFP.

Plus at some point you've got to look at replacing him and next year we'll have Oscar, De Bruyne, McEachran and Chalobah all possibly looking for that spot in midfield alongside Mikel, Ramires and maybe Luiz.

Cole is a different issue in that regard because he's still one of the best in the world on his day (which aren't as consistent as they once were)and it's hard to say that Bertrand and Van Aanholt are capable of replacing him. But we've all seen him hobbling around the pitch after games - that doesn't inspire much confidence in giving him a two-year contract.

[zolayes 14,489]

Chelsea have won 9 out of 10 PL games when Lampard has started this season and lost 7 from 8 when he's not played.

yeah, get rid of him now

that IS an impressive stat ... I believe JT 's are similar

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[TheCount 146]

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Everyone shut up their faces, him and terry are clearly still needed.

[super_frank8 186]

I've already said a lot in this thread recently, so I'm going to attempt to spare you all from the extended long-winded rants & keep this fairly concise for those delinquents who continue to stand by their deluded beliefs that Lampard doesn't deserve a new contract equivalent to what I would expect are his more than reasonable demands.

Today, he not only single-handedly saved our now very real title hopes with a brace, but he also put in an all-round true captain's performance that included some great defensive discipline at times; as well as completing the full 90 mintues without reprieve - leaving just about every recent argument claiming lack of ability, fitness or other invented fallacies absolutely & entirely redundant. Say what you want about it from your own point of view, but he did what everyone else on the team failed to do; twice. That is a fact that is impossible to argue against.

As are the stats - we suffer severely when we're missing Lamps - it's not just a happy coincidence, it's the cold hard reality that so many on this forum seem unbelievably reluctant to succumb to & admit.

How so many of you on here can continue to write off a player who has answered adversity & obliterated his doubters without fail time & time again - is truly beyond my comprehension.

If you are a Chelsea fan, a Chelsea fan who has witnessed first-hand what this man has done for this club over the last decade, & you still don't think he has earned the right to a two year contract based on sheer merit as well as his performances in the present day - then I seriously have to question your morals, your beliefs, your integrity, & your loyalty as a True Blue.

I'm sure there will be plenty of you who will perservere to dismiss him for his age, his wages, or any other contrived convoluted issues that are ultimately arbitrary matters once you're on the pitch - but in that case, I would have to ask you if you are actually being honest with yourself. Because honestly, if you don't want the greatest player to have ever walked out at the Bridge - who still remains one of the very best midfielders in the world today as he has been for an entire decade - to keep pulling on that jersey he loves more than anything every week until his legs simply won't let him anymore - well then you aren't a real Chelsea fan in my eyes.

I'm sure that's a controversial statement to those that oppose it, but from my perspective, claiming that Frank does not deserve the contract that he wants could not be a more vagrant display of either your forgivably poor judgement in footballing terms - or your unforgivable lack of heart as a self-proclaimed supporter of this club.

Frank Lampard is an uneclipsable hero, an undeniable legend - & continues to be the very heart & soul of Chelsea FC. He's the one who recognises exactly what the fans want, & wills every muscle & bone in his body to deliver it, as our increasingly impressive trophy cabinet has proven over the years that he has been here.

In a time where his own club, & outrageous as it may seem, many of his own supporters have decidedly rejected his value as a top class first team player of the highest order - he continues to prove all of his critics wrong as his man of the match performance today has only reinforced.

If you don't agree with what I have said, that's fine. I'm done with having to constantly justify what could not possibly be any clearer to me - & seemingly the majority of the footballing world, Chelsea associated or otherwise.

So if you want to waste your time on a pointless redundant argument - take it up with Lampard's performances on the pitch - because that is a debate that you are destined to lose.

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If you are a Chelsea fan, a Chelsea fan who has witnessed first-hand what this man has done for this club over the last decade, & you still don't think he has earned the right to a two year contract based on sheer merit as well as his performances in the present day - then I seriously have to question your morals, your beliefs, your integrity, & your loyalty as a True Blue.

We have a policy for players over the age of 30 and I think it's one we need to stick to. I really don't think that's reason to question my 'loyalty as a True Blue' although I'm more than happy to put my credentials up against anyone on here.

[didierforever 7,349]

I've already said a lot in this thread recently, so I'm going to attempt to spare you all from the extended long-winded rants & keep this fairly concise for those delinquents who continue to stand by their deluded beliefs that Lampard doesn't deserve a new contract equivalent to what I would expect are his more than reasonable demands.

Today, he not only single-handedly saved our now very real title hopes with a brace, but he also put in an all-round true captain's performance that included some great defensive discipline at times; as well as completing the full 90 mintues without reprieve - leaving just about every recent argument claiming lack of ability, fitness or other invented fallacies absolutely & entirely redundant. Say what you want about it from your own point of view, but he did what everyone else on the team failed to do; twice. That is a fact that is impossible to argue against.

As are the stats - we suffer severely when we're missing Lamps - it's not just a happy coincidence, it's the cold hard reality that so many on this forum seem unbelievably reluctant to succumb to & admit.

How so many of you on here can continue to write off a player who has answered adversity & obliterated his doubters without fail time & time again - is truly beyond my comprehension.

If you are a Chelsea fan, a Chelsea fan who has witnessed first-hand what this man has done for this club over the last decade, & you still don't think he has earned the right to a two year contract based on sheer merit as well as his performances in the present day - then I seriously have to question your morals, your beliefs, your integrity, & your loyalty as a True Blue.

I'm sure there will be plenty of you who will perservere to dismiss him for his age, his wages, or any other contrived convoluted issues that are ultimately arbitrary matters once you're on the pitch - but in that case, I would have to ask you if you are actually being honest with yourself. Because honestly, if you don't want the greatest player to have ever walked out at the Bridge - who still remains one of the very best midfielders in the world today as he has been for an entire decade - to keep pulling on that jersey he loves more than anything every week until his legs simply won't let him anymore - well then you aren't a real Chelsea fan in my eyes.

I'm sure that's a controversial statement to those that oppose it, but from my perspective, claiming that Frank does not deserve the contract that he wants could not be a more vagrant display of either your forgivably poor judgement in footballing terms - or your unforgivable lack of heart as a self-proclaimed supporter of this club.

Frank Lampard is a uneclipsable hero, an undeniable legend - & continues to be the very heart & soul of Chelsea FC. He's the one who recognises exactly what the fans want, & wills every muscle & bone in his body to deliver it, as our increasingly impressive trophy cabinet has proven over the years that he has been here.

In a time where his own club, & outrageous as it may seem, many of his own supporters have decidedly rejected his value as a top class first team player of the highest order - he continues to prove all of his critics wrong as his man of the match performance today has only reinforced.

If you don't agree with what I have said, that's fine. I'm done with having to constantly justify what could not possibly be any clearer to me - & seemingly the majority of the footballing world, Chelsea associated or otherwise.

So if you want to waste your time on a pointless redundant argument - take it up with Lampard's performances on the pitch - because that is a debate that you are destined to lose.

u know, u could have only written the last line and left it at that. nothing can prove lamps worth more than his performances. TRUE LEGEND!!!

[mybodyisready 155]

keep Lampard, get rid of Terry.

[super_frank8 186]

We have a policy for players over the age of 30 and I think it's one we need to stick to. I really don't think that's reason to question my 'loyalty as a True Blue' although I'm more than happy to put my credentials up against anyone on here.

& do you, as a fan, determine & uphold that policy, let alone believe in it? If it was actually your own decision, no one else's - would you honestly actually give a shit about the age of a player when his ability is undeniable?

So tell me, if Steven Gerrard or Andrea Pirlo or Xabi Alonso or Xavi were at this club, you would honestly choose not to extend their contracts - purely based on some ludicrous policy that only takes age into account?

It's one thing to say that it's the club & the board's decision & that they have a policy that you can't do anything about, but it's another to use it as a convenient excuse & justification for your misguided ideals of ubiquitous effervescent youth throughout our squad - without taking into account what the real life effects of prematurely uprooting the foundations of an incredibly successful team are likely to result in - but I guess you have a bit of a penchant for those younguns eh

& yes, for someone who has frequently reminded us all of what an incredible fan he is & how often he sits in the stands at the Bridge & has done for numerous years - always thinking of 'what's best for the club' & nothing else - you seem to have an undeniable vendetta against our legends who not only continue to perform at the level they are expected to, but even surpass it.

Do you really believe that giving Lamps a new contract isn't exactly what is best for this club right now & for the immediate future ahead? Call me crazy, but I simply fail to see how it is anything else.

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but I guess you have a bit of a penchant for those younguns eh

Wow, really?