🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

[Vesper 30,172]

would a 4 4 2 double six work with these players in it, or am I delusional?

GK  ABKAW (anyone but Kepa and Willy)
CB Declan Rice
CB Rudiger
LB Theo or Digne or Telles
RB Azpi (until Reece pulls his head out of his arse)
Double 6 A Kovavcic
Double 6 B Mason Mount
LW Pulisic
RW Ziyech
LCF Werner
RCF Havertz

in a perfect world, for that formation

I would roll with

GK  Oblak
LCB Romagnoli
RCB Varane
LB Theo Hernandez
RB Nordi Mukiele
Double 6 A Declan Rice
Double 6 B Eduardo Camavinga
LW Pulisic
RW Ziyech
LCF Werner
RCF Havertz

that is a potential CL and League Treble-winning side

especially with our bench as well

of course, with FFP it is damn near impossible to do unless we pulled of swaps with Real and AC Milan for Kante and Jorginho and absolutely liquidated alllllll the dregs and Oblak is a bridge too far even if we did all of that as his release clause is now almost £108m

it has crazy pace, creative, bone crunching back 4, (the fullbacks are are both well over 6 feet tall, strong, and fast) an hard as nails defensive MF (both who have pace and ball handling skills as well, especially Camavinga), and the best GK in the world, but I think we could pull it off with another keeper as well, as long as they came good

I also think we could swap out the CB¨s for some from another group of around 8 or 10 if they both (as is likely) are impossible to pull, the rest are all there for the taking IF the price is met

I wish to hell Ake was 3 or 4 inches taller (he is only 1.80m and I think is more like 1.79m) and then we could pair him (as he is a left-footed CB that lamps so wants) with a monster like Nikola Milenkovic  (1.95m)

there IS a monster (even bigger) left footed CB, Dan-Axel Zagadou 1.96m, but I am not convinced on him yet. Someone suggested another that I have posted on but not truly pushed, who is also left footeed and great size (1.92m) Evan N'Dicka of Eintracht Frankfurt.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

I thought he learned from his idiotic decision to start with Tammy against West Ham.

Nope.

He gave this lamp-post of a striker an instant reward for scoring a goal against CP. I've said it before, Tammy should NEVER start a game till the end of the season until he gets into hot scoring form.

And what an absolute STUPID decision to keep Tammy on in this game, and remove the most influential attacker in Pulisic. Probably also trying to please Willian, who is probably running ragged after playing 90 mins of every game, and is ironically halfway out the door.

And what's Lampard's idea for fixing a leaky defense?

Simple: Keep rotating the back four every time we lose a game.

Won't be surprised to see Willy Caballero come on for Kepa in the next game. That will be his next 'fix'.

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[killer1257 3,282]

Horrible line up. Jorgi Mount and Barkley will create you zero chances

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[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Legend

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16 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

Legend

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Indeed a legendary player........as manager?

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

I'm back from my hiatus for this one post I think it will be enough. Lampard is clueless we all know it and those Lampard apologists time to get your heads out of the sand. His status at the club got him the job and that's keeping him in the job as well. Defeat eleven of the season and 49 fucking goals conceded is unacceptable and no other manager in our recent history would be still employed with a record like that.

But he had his hands tied by the transfer ban you might say well fair enough but you should still not be losing to the likes of West Ham twice, Bournemouth I'm not going to go through every defeat and then today being outclassed and Lampard schooled by a newly promoted club. What about the young players he's brought through well what about them ? Mount fairly decent season, James the epitome of hot and cold, Tomori shaky but better than Zouma and the going backwards faster than an Italian tank in WW2 Rudiger. Tammy is not good enough end of. Billy Gilmour still raw and as good as he was against Liverpool and I'm not trying to take anything away from the kid but Liverpool weren't exactly up for it that night they had their eyes on the league and champions league.

God knows how the rest of the season might pan out we could win the cup and finish top four or five but it's only papering over the cracks which I suppose is a weird thing to say but there are problems and major ones at that. Lampard is following a long tradition of English internationals who were great players but shit managers they seem to think there immune from criticism because of who they are and Lampard almost has the shrug of the shoulders well what do you want me to do about it body language. Lampard is fortunate and Kepa most definitely is that there's no fans at the matches because the murmurings of discontent would have started Kepa would be getting the ironic cheers everytime he did something right 70 million quid for that streak of paralysed piss is worse than Torres who the fuck scouted this clown.

Well that's enough from me I still read TC and you can call me a prick I won't be answering but I hope you and your families are safe and Covid free my best mate was in an induced coma for 38 days thankfully fully recovered. Carefree wherever you may be.

[milka 3,394]

Frank Lampard made errors today, especially with the starting XI, but can we think logically 

He’s been excellent as of late and across the season considering the circumstances. Criticism is fair, but let’s not be reactionary.

[MoroccanBlue 5,381]

Even under Sarri we struggle against sides that deploy a 343. 
 

The only way to combat it is to play it too

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Just now, milka said:

Frank Lampard made errors today, especially with the starting XI, but can we think logically before we tweet?

He’s been excellent as of late and across the season considering the circumstances. Criticism is fair, but let’s not be reactionary.

Problem is we cant afford to lose pts with 3 games left, he should have known how SU play, they have played this system for 3 years, should have settled for a draw in hope to nick it.

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Indeed a legendary player........as manager?

Just trying to lighten the mood lol.

I think its fair for him to be seriously questioned. Though his signings look great. I suspect Frank will leave us in a better shape than he came with.

I just hope this is a personel issue because we've looked defensively shit all season and I don't know how that doesn't reflect on the manager even a little bit

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1 minute ago, Supermonkey92 said:

Just trying to lighten the mood lol.

I think its fair for him to be seriously questioned. Though his signings look great. I suspect Frank will leave us in a better shape than he came with.

I just hope this is a personel issue because we've looked defensively shit all season and I don't know how that doesn't reflect on the manager even a little bit

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Its all good mate

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

15 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said:

Just trying to lighten the mood lol.

I think its fair for him to be seriously questioned. Though his signings look great. I suspect Frank will leave us in a better shape than he came with.

I just hope this is a personel issue because we've looked defensively shit all season and I don't know how that doesn't reflect on the manager even a little bit

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Coaching? Motivation? 

[Jase 43,479]

Said this several times before and I will say it again, the defensive problems will be Lampard's downfall as a manager - and at the club - if he doesn't get a grip with it FAST. That our defenders are bad, is obvious by now but our defensive issues have happened far too often this season to be just "it's because of the players". We obviously need a quality center back or two but that won't matter one bit if the defensive coaching continues to be non-existent. It will just paper over the "cracks" shown by the coaching staff. 

[killer1257 3,282]

Said this several times before and I will say it again, the defensive problems will be Lampard's downfall as a manager - and at the club - if he doesn't get a grip with it FAST. That our defenders are bad, is obvious by now but our defensive issues have happened far too often this season to be just "it's because of the players". We obviously need a quality center back or two but that won't matter one bit if the defensive coaching continues to be non-existent. It will just paper over the "cracks" shown by the coaching staff. 

It took Klopp VVD to solve his problem. United needed Maguire to at least strenghten their defense and they will now likely go for Ake. Chelsea did not improve their defense for a while now

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[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Coaching? Motivation? 

No as in the persons who are doing the work on the pitch lol.

You can't blame Lampard for the multiple individual errors. Perhaps with better players most of the defensive issues go away.

I hope so

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[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Lamps might be shit at coaching defense. But today that was not the main problem. We just could not get a grip of the game in midfield or get any kind of penetration offensively. If you are that meek attacking wise it is only a matter of time till you concede. Obviously, james and AC are shit but the first goal was super unlucky and i can not really put that on tactics when there were just so many individual misakes in a row. But clearly, we were not set up properly to deal with them overall, esp in midfield. we couldnt deal with their high press even with jorginho. We didnt know what to do when they started loading the flanks with 3,4 players. It really begs the question what is the identity of Lamps's defensive tactics? We know very well how he intends to workon the offense but we dont know shit what he asks from his defenders. Whether its high line or low, high or medium block, cb stepping out to doulbe up on wingers or cms dropping deep, striker covering the inside. The thing is i have seen all kinds of strange movement patterns from our players in defense. Today zouma made a completely weird and needless trip to the left side to help out azpi of all people who was doing fine, when pulisic was already there to provide cover. zouma then noticed that he was not needed and quickly retreated. the scene went unpunished but it was weird to see. On another occasion I saw tammy tracking the underlapping CB on another occasion i saw him deliberately not doing so. Either the players are doing what they want or he overexerts them. Either way our defensive tactics are very erratic and lack a coherent system. Lampard had enough time to deal with this shit over the corona break and obviously still has not come out with a solution. The only one will be to sign defenders that are smart enough to figure our defence on their own. JT/Carvalho/Cole etc managed to do that a lto under defensively clueless coaches like Grant and Scolari so I dont think it is unheard of. Quite a few great coaches have gotten away with knowing fuck all about defending by just being given the right personnel. Lets hope Lampard gets this chance too to give him timo to improve there.

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4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

The only one will be to sign defenders that are smart enough to figure our defence on their own. JT/Carvalho/Cole etc managed to do that a lto under defensively clueless coaches like Grant and Scolari so I dont think it is unheard of. Quite a few great coaches have gotten away with knowing fuck all about defending by just being given the right personnel. Lets hope Lampard gets this chance too to give him timo to improve there.

If the manager is crap at organizing a defence, then is it too much to ask him to get a coach who can do that? Grant, for example, had Steve Clarke to help with that. Scolari had his people too. 

Problem with Lampard and even the coaching staff right now is they are all still inexperienced at the highest level. So it can become a problem if they don't know how to fix an issue or have no experience to fall back on - which is somewhat ironic given Lampard played under some of the managers in history. Plenty, if not all our previous managers have an experienced backroom staff at the very least. 

[killer1257 3,282]

If the manager is crap at organizing a defence, then is it too much to ask him to get a coach who can do that? Grant, for example, had Steve Clarke to help with that. Scolari had his people too. 
Problem with Lampard and even the coaching staff right now is they are all still inexperienced at the highest level. So it can become a problem if they don't know how to fix an issue or have no experience to fall back on - which is somewhat ironic given Lampard played under some of the managers in history. Plenty, if not all our previous managers have an experienced backroom staff at the very least. 

Do you have someone in mind that Lampard could get?

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21 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Do you have someone in mind that Lampard could get?

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Apart from the obvious ones who have become managers, no.

But one would at least expect Lampard to know people within the football coaching network. Plus, he could always check with uncle Harry for names.