OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, communicate said: A lot of people criticize Lamp with favoring kante. I personally don't understand the criticism. I feel like everyone favor jorgi or gillmour as our dm. The question is how do you cover for their weaknesses, both are quite slow. Its not like it has to be Kante or one of those in that one role. Kante can play with those guys in a 2 or a 3. Its more FLs persistent of using Kante as a holder and not having someone in that mould in the MF. Particularly against the likes of West Ham, Watford etc. these teams where we are going to have to move the ball quicker through midfield. While Kante isnt limited with the ball by any stretch of the imagination, he has tended to play a bit more reserved or slower in that role with the ball. He also isnt as demanding in terms of getting the ball from the CBs or FBs so we can get it forward. Even at the start of the season the MF of Kovacic, Mount and Jorginho was undoubtedly our best bet for playing those smaller teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 3:41 PM, killer1257 said: Should he have said that guys like Rüdiger and Alonso do not have high football IQ and do not know the basics instead? I went to the details because everyone here thinks that everything is Lampards fault when it comes to set piece defending. I just said that we have to look deeper into it. It is not a coincidence that Sarri and Lampard struggle to solve our set piece defending. Why? Because of the details I pointed out. Lampard can only tell them everything how to do this or that, but when the players do not have the football IQ to know positional awareness in a game, or how to position your body in different moments of the game individually to win tackles or when to time your jumps, what is he supposed to do. You can have the best defense coach of all time and he will not make Rüdiger nor Alonso into top class defenders. Never saw someone putting tallest player on the goal line for corners before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Did anyone else notice we were man marking set pieces last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Dont know if this is telling something about Frank but Derby is having a strong finish of the season now. 7th place now, 3 points away from 6th place and play off spot where they finished last season with Frank. Not to mention that this year squad is nowhere near in terms of quality from last season. They lost Mount, Tomori, Wilson and many others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Dont know if this is telling something about Frank but Derby is having a strong finish of the season now. 7th place now, 3 points away from 6th place and play off spot where they finished last season with Frank. Not to mention that this year squad is nowhere near in terms of quality from last season. They lost Mount, Tomori, Wilson and many others... We are 4th, without hazard and luiz from last season. I would rather go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 16 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Its not like it has to be Kante or one of those in that one role. Kante can play with those guys in a 2 or a 3. Its more FLs persistent of using Kante as a holder and not having someone in that mould in the MF. Particularly against the likes of West Ham, Watford etc. these teams where we are going to have to move the ball quicker through midfield. While Kante isnt limited with the ball by any stretch of the imagination, he has tended to play a bit more reserved or slower in that role with the ball. He also isnt as demanding in terms of getting the ball from the CBs or FBs so we can get it forward. Even at the start of the season the MF of Kovacic, Mount and Jorginho was undoubtedly our best bet for playing those smaller teams. I think it depend on how Lamp want to setup his midfield. Post covid break, I feel like Lamp want to play two aggressive cm who atack the box in front of a single dm. Is jorgi or Gilmour the right guy for this role, maybe not. In term of build up, against Watford, i feel like Kante doesn't really try to receive the ball, it feel like it is christensen job to build from the back. Maybe I was wrong but that is what I felt. Puliiszola 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 10 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Dont know if this is telling something about Frank but Derby is having a strong finish of the season now. 7th place now, 3 points away from 6th place and play off spot where they finished last season with Frank. Not to mention that this year squad is nowhere near in terms of quality from last season. They lost Mount, Tomori, Wilson and many others... But they also added Wayne Rooney, who has had a huge huge impact as well not only performing well himself but making the others around him look better as well as the fact Philip Cocu’s made wee tweaks that have helped their team. As I said last season finishing 6th with Derby wasnt a huge achievement but if he got them up through the playoffs, it would of been. The strong finish for Derby this season will be pointless unless they have something to show for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,724 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I'm tired of this defense. It's stupid to spend big money on havertz if we don't improve our defense. Atomiswave, Johnnyeye and Mana 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 We've improved at defending set pieces. Took him only 12 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Fernando said: I'm tired of this defense. It's stupid to spend big money on havertz if we don't improve our defense. Dont worry. We will get new CB, LB and Kai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 We need a GK as well Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk kellzfresh and Supermonkey92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,724 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, killer1257 said: We need a GK as well Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Gk can improve if we have better defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 once again, Lamps just saves his fucked up team selection with good subs. its getting boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The water breaks have been our savior since the restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fernando said: Gk can improve if we have better defense. This. Kepa two worst moments after the restart: WH first goal and Zaha goal today. He should do better for both ofc but the thing is if Rudi, James and others did not fuck up it would not be a issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Supermonkey92 and DDA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Jason said: If kante play higher up he can't prevent counter too much but I don't think we concede any counter goal after restart other than yarmalenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 would a 4 4 2 double six work with these players in it, or am I delusional? GK ABKAW (anyone but Kepa and Willy) CB Declan Rice CB Rudiger LB Theo or Digne or Telles RB Azpi (until Reece pulls his head out of his arse) Double 6 A Kovavcic Double 6 B Mason Mount LW Pulisic RW Ziyech LCF Werner RCF Havertz in a perfect world, for that formation I would roll with GK Oblak LCB Romagnoli RCB Varane LB Theo Hernandez RB Nordi Mukiele Double 6 A Declan Rice Double 6 B Eduardo Camavinga LW Pulisic RW Ziyech LCF Werner RCF Havertz that is a potential CL and League Treble-winning side especially with our bench as well of course, with FFP it is damn near impossible to do unless we pulled of swaps with Real and AC Milan for Kante and Jorginho and absolutely liquidated alllllll the dregs and Oblak is a bridge too far even if we did all of that as his release clause is now almost £108m it has crazy pace, creative, bone crunching back 4, (the fullbacks are are both well over 6 feet tall, strong, and fast) an hard as nails defensive MF (both who have pace and ball handling skills as well, especially Camavinga), and the best GK in the world, but I think we could pull it off with another keeper as well, as long as they came good I also think we could swap out the CB¨s for some from another group of around 8 or 10 if they both (as is likely) are impossible to pull, the rest are all there for the taking IF the price is met I wish to hell Ake was 3 or 4 inches taller (he is only 1.80m and I think is more like 1.79m) and then we could pair him (as he is a left-footed CB that lamps so wants) with a monster like Nikola Milenkovic (1.95m) there IS a monster (even bigger) left footed CB, Dan-Axel Zagadou 1.96m, but I am not convinced on him yet. Someone suggested another that I have posted on but not truly pushed, who is also left footeed and great size (1.92m) Evan N'Dicka of Eintracht Frankfurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Blue Armour 4,721 Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted July 11, 2020 I thought he learned from his idiotic decision to start with Tammy against West Ham. Nope. He gave this lamp-post of a striker an instant reward for scoring a goal against CP. I've said it before, Tammy should NEVER start a game till the end of the season until he gets into hot scoring form. And what an absolute STUPID decision to keep Tammy on in this game, and remove the most influential attacker in Pulisic. Probably also trying to please Willian, who is probably running ragged after playing 90 mins of every game, and is ironically halfway out the door. And what's Lampard's idea for fixing a leaky defense? Simple: Keep rotating the back four every time we lose a game. Won't be surprised to see Willy Caballero come on for Kepa in the next game. That will be his next 'fix'. Johnnyeye, Atomiswave, NikkiCFC and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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