Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

42 minutes ago, the wes said:

Sliva agent talking up a move to chelsea

"Chelsea are a big club. And the English league is the best in the world. I don't know about [following David Luiz, but] I know they're great friends."

"We're not negotiating a new contract, let's see what happens before December. Thiago's deal ends on June 30th 2017 if PSG don't qualify for the Champions League. Everything is possible in football."

-Paulo Tonietto; source: Sport Witness

There is planning for every eventuality and then there's, "If PSG don't qualify for the champions league!!"

Good work Paulo. Let no one ever accuse you of failing to dot the Is and cross the Ts.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Paris failing to qualify for CL football in that one team league is similar to Bayern relegating from Bundesliga. Never going to happen.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,072]

5 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Paris failing to qualify for CL football in that one team league is similar to Bayern relegating from Bundesliga. Never going to happen.

I read a post yesterday in which someone called it not the Bundesliga, but the Bayernliga. Made me laugh and 100% right of course.

[jernej93 569]

Virgil van Dijk and Fabinho in january

We could also sell Mikel, Matić, Oscar and bring Baker back from loan

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I think Promes could be interesting attacking option to have if we will target cheaper winger in the future.

[It's too big 625]

Talk of us interested in Ruben Neves of Porto. This is from a source in Portugal. 

[the wes 7,212]

7 hours ago, It's too big said:

Talk of us interested in Ruben Neves of Porto. This is from a source in Portugal. 

Chelsea, Liverpool and Juventus are all targeting Porto and Portugal midfielder Ruben Neves, 19, who will cost £18m. (Visao de Mercado - in Portuguese)

[The Skipper 20,609]

1 hour ago, the wes said:

Chelsea, Liverpool and Juventus are all targeting Porto and Portugal midfielder Ruben Neves, 19, who will cost £18m. (Visao de Mercado - in Portuguese)

Would be a great signing. 

[Mufassir08 2,400]

5 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Would be a great signing. 

 

I feel Dahoud has got more potential therefore would be a better signing.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Is Neves realy that good? I hear porto is quite mediocre this days and Neves is not even playing. 

I remember he had great games against us, but that doesnt warrant he will be massive player. IMO if he was realy good, he would play regulary, no?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Is Neves realy that good? I hear porto is quite mediocre this days and Neves is not even playing. 

I remember he had great games against us, but that doesnt warrant he will be massive player. IMO if he was realy good, he would play regulary, no?

[the wes 7,212]

Pepe linked with Chelsea 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/722636/Chelsea-Real-Madrid-Pepe-considering-move-transfer-news-gossip

Please no I hate this cunt

[jernej93 569]

Very good perfomance by Virgil van Dijk against City  I would really love him in Chelsea shirt

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

So Porto already accounted 116m€ from players' sales this season. oO Anyone interested in particular Porto player ? I feel we could do with Brahimi and especially Ruben Neves.

[the wes 7,212]

2 hours ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

So Porto already accounted 116m€ from players' sales this season. oO Anyone interested in particular Porto player ? I feel we could do with Brahimi and especially Ruben Neves.

André Silva seem like a good player aswell 

[the wes 7,212]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/talksport.com/football/sergio-aguero-move-arsenal-chelsea-and-tottenham-all-monitoring-manchester-city-strikers%3Famp?client=ms-android-sonymobile

Aguero could be made available I would love him to be at chelsea 

[Tomo 21,751]

By the look of the last few games we have 15 players that can play in the new system and that's the starting lineup vs United plus Willian, Nate, Begovic and Bats the rest for various reasons simply don't fit in. So January Isn't even about getting world class players or even instant first Xl improve in, its about signing more depth for the new system especially at wingback.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

By the look of the last few games we have 15 players that can play in the new system and that's the starting lineup vs United plus Willian, Nate, Begovic and Bats the rest for various reasons simply don't fit in. So January Isn't even about getting world class players or even instant first Xl improve in, its about signing more depth for the new system especially at wingback.

That said if we will insist on 3:4:3

While I think 3 man defenses today are outdated (Conte didnt get far with juve in CL, Guardiola experimented in bayern and city with no effect etc), BUT we play much much better with that formation. 

I definately look forward to see more of it, but I still have few questions. Will it work once opponents get prepared well? Did we establish it because its Conte's best formation or just best formation for current players? 

Alot will depend on formation we play. We cant go in january and summer buying players for 3:4:3, and then switch to 4:x:x next season because things wont work.

Also, assuming we do play 3:4:3, few years pass, Conte decides to leave for whatever reason and next manager is your typical 4:x:x and all he has are players for 3:4:3... (ok thats long term and if we are successful under Conte, it wont be a problem).

Im probably complicating alittle bit, but if we go 3:4:3, we go heavy for it. If we switch at some point soon, we will basicaly waiste few years.

Personaly I like 3:4:3 alot, but needs to pass more games to create valid opinion. Im not sure if I like the system because what it is, or because how much of improvement it is over 4:1:4:1 we played before. Certainly we play much nicer football, we look well on both ends, with or without the ball and if we bring 2 or 3 more players, I think it could be it. 

Also, it could be the formation, but soon as we replaced Iva and Oscar with Alonso and Moses, we instantly performed much much better. I dont think its coincidence. That gives another possibility that formation wasnt changed to 3:4:3 because it was better, but simply because it fits different players who are better than those that can play in 4:1:4:1. And perhaps with few better new players that fit well in 4:3:3; we could play even better than we do in 3:4:3.

Now if we could get same 11 be able to play 3:4:3 and 4:3:3, equaly well, that would be amazing, but I dont think football can work that way. If it would we would probably revolutionize football world.

 

[Tomo 21,751]

On 29/10/2016 at 4:13 AM, BlueLyon said:

That said if we will insist on 3:4:3

While I think 3 man defenses today are outdated (Conte didnt get far with juve in CL, Guardiola experimented in bayern and city with no effect etc), BUT we play much much better with that formation. 

I definately look forward to see more of it, but I still have few questions. Will it work once opponents get prepared well? Did we establish it because its Conte's best formation or just best formation for current players? 

Alot will depend on formation we play. We cant go in january and summer buying players for 3:4:3, and then switch to 4:x:x next season because things wont work.

Also, assuming we do play 3:4:3, few years pass, Conte decides to leave for whatever reason and next manager is your typical 4:x:x and all he has are players for 3:4:3... (ok thats long term and if we are successful under Conte, it wont be a problem).

Im probably complicating alittle bit, but if we go 3:4:3, we go heavy for it. If we switch at some point soon, we will basicaly waiste few years.

Personaly I like 3:4:3 alot, but needs to pass more games to create valid opinion. Im not sure if I like the system because what it is, or because how much of improvement it is over 4:1:4:1 we played before. Certainly we play much nicer football, we look well on both ends, with or without the ball and if we bring 2 or 3 more players, I think it could be it. 

Also, it could be the formation, but soon as we replaced Iva and Oscar with Alonso and Moses, we instantly performed much much better. I dont think its coincidence. That gives another possibility that formation wasnt changed to 3:4:3 because it was better, but simply because it fits different players who are better than those that can play in 4:1:4:1. And perhaps with few better new players that fit well in 4:3:3; we could play even better than we do in 3:4:3.

Now if we could get same 11 be able to play 3:4:3 and 4:3:3, equaly well, that would be amazing, but I dont think football can work that way. If it would we would probably revolutionize football world.

 

Antonio has only had two stabs at CL so bit early to judge on how well his system is in that competition, after all no one was beating the Bayern side that knocked him out and even in the group stage elimination they had one game were they outplayed Real and were unlucky to not win.

The thing the wingback system gives is it can be as good as having two extra players on the pitch when implemented right, ajd it can he very hard to create against it.

[Fernando 6,585]

I hope the club don't get complacent about how we are doing . We still need to spend.