Juan Mata

[Hostedenis 556]

mata = slow , can't dribble and no skills i don't see what he does so special. he's average and so overrated

Mata has probably been (although debatable) Chelsea's best player for the last two seasons now.

He has his downsides: he's not the fastest and he doesn't fulfill a lot of defensive duties, but he is a great player. I'd say Chelsea's best, and as a Belgian I love Hazard yet even through my Belgian glasses I see Mata clearly as the better player (not talking about potential, although even then...).

Mata can read the game excellently, and deliver good passes, hence his high assist count. He is our best cornertaker, our corners from the right side are dangerous, compared to the Hazard crosses from the left (I believe Oscar is a better corner taker from the left). His best asset is his intelligence. He's not the best finisher, but because of his intelligence and good reading of the game he always finds himself alone in the box or far enough from a defender to have the space to do a decent finish or he's placed well for the rebound. And he's not bad at finishing either, rather above average. Just not one of the best.

No doubt, Mata's Chelsea's best player because of his great reading, intelligence, positioning, passing and finishing, in that order IMO.

He's a clever little man

[zolayes 14,489]

mata = slow , can't dribble and no skills i don't see what he does so special. he's average and so overrated

I believe your name means little Ronald ...so go away and come back when youre old enough to be called Ron

[Hostedenis 556]

mata = slow , can't dribble and no skills i don't see what he does so special. he's average and so overrated

And he is most definitely not overrated. Quite the opposite.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

mata = slow , can't dribble and no skills i don't see what he does so special. he's average and so overrated

Ban this faggot, nothing but a troll

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

mata = slow , can't dribble and no skills i don't see what he does so special. he's average and so overrated

Fuk u gypsy dog

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Not as pacey as Hazard. Very good vision though and not a bad finisher either. However one thing concerning about Mata is that he doesn't have the nerve, bottled quite a few penalties and just seem to not have that x-factor at the most vital moment like Drogba. Not unsellable again imo, if Jose want him and we get at least £45m, he could go and we should sign Thiago/Isco to replace if he leaves. However one of our best player atm, understandably why some fans would hate to lose him.

[Toli 977]

Not as pacey as Hazard. Very good vision though and not a bad finisher either. However one thing concerning about Mata is that he doesn't have the nerve, bottled quite a few penalties and just seem to not have that x-factor at the most vital moment like Drogba. Not unsellable again imo, if Jose want him and we get at least £45m, he could go and we should sign Thiago/Isco to replace if he leaves. However one of our best player atm, understandably why some fans would hate to lose him.

you mean the x-factor when he gave the assist to drogba? or the corner-kick against benfica?

[Mouri_Matic 560]

you mean the x-factor when he gave the assist to drogba? or the corner-kick against benfica?

No that is not it, the x-factor is like when he scored against MU late last season but there are too few moment of that to talk about. Taking a corner mean nothing, it just happens to find our player's head and go in, that corner could have been taken by Azpliculetta and the result will probably be the same.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Not as pacey as Hazard. Very good vision though and not a bad finisher either. However one thing concerning about Mata is that he doesn't have the nerve, bottled quite a few penalties and just seem to not have that x-factor at the most vital moment like Drogba. Not unsellable again imo, if Jose want him and we get at least £45m, he could go and we should sign Thiago/Isco to replace if he leaves. However one of our best player atm, understandably why some fans would hate to lose him.

Go watch our game vs. Tottenham away last season and tell me Mata has no "x factor".

Seriously, did some people even watch us last season?

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Go watch our game vs. Tottenham away last season and tell me Mata has no "x factor".

Seriously, did some people even watch us last season?

AT THE MOST VITAL MOMENT, I never said he doesn't have it in him. In fact, he showed a few time why he is our favorite player with games against MU and Spurs

[Jase 43,479]

Not as pacey as Hazard. Very good vision though and not a bad finisher either. However one thing concerning about Mata is that he doesn't have the nerve, bottled quite a few penalties and just seem to not have that x-factor at the most vital moment like Drogba. Not unsellable again imo, if Jose want him and we get at least £45m, he could go and we should sign Thiago/Isco to replace if he leaves. However one of our best player atm, understandably why some fans would hate to lose him.

Him not scoring penalties is down more to the fact that his penalty taking skills are average and predictable if you like, nothing to do with his mentality.

AT THE MOST VITAL MOMENT, I never said he doesn't have it in him. In fact, he showed a few time why he is our favorite player with games against MU and Spurs

Care to mention those 'AT THE MOST VITAL MOMENT'?

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Him not scoring penalties is down more to the fact that his penalty taking skills are average and predictable if you like, nothing to do with his mentality.

Care to mention those 'AT THE MOST VITAL MOMENT'?

CL final miss?

And vital moments are like that Drogba header in CL final, Drogba last min goal against MU FA Cup 2006...etc a moment of brilliance.

[Johnny Kills 164]

CL final miss?

And vital moments are like that Drogba header in CL final, Drogba last min goal against MU FA Cup 2006...etc a moment of brilliance.

His stunning volley vs United? The cracker against Arsenal? His corner kick assists in the dying minutes of the Shaktar, Benfica, and Munich matches? His assist to Ash in the last 5 minutes against Stoke for the game winner? The fact he has 3 assists in 2 European finals? I'm sure there's a lot more from his 1st season if someone looked it up. I know we're not supposed to personally insult people but my word some people make it really difficult.

[TrippingStep 336]

I see the troll has changed his nationality.

I thought he was finnish before :confused:

[Jase 43,479]

CL final miss?

Like I said, that was more down to his way of taking penalties. His other missed penalties is an example of it. His technique and style isn't exactly the best. And admittedly, Mata did look nervous when taking the penalty but arguably understandable considering he has never found himself in such high pressurized situatiob before. He will learn to get stronger from such moments, as every player does.

And vital moments are like that Drogba header in CL final, Drogba last min goal against MU FA Cup 2006...etc a moment of brilliance.

Think it's myopic to just put down a moment of brilliance down to goals. Delivering assists and quality assists at that is also as important as scoring vital goals in big games and Mata performed magnificently on both fronts last season. I mean how many times have we looked clueless when he's not playing last season? How many times last season, when we are not winning or losing, Mata comes up with a crucial opening goal or delivering a quality assist that leads to a goal for us and save our bacons?

You talk about Drogba's header in the Champions League final being a moment of brilliance. Yes, no doubt it was brilliant and crucial header but funnily enough, had Mata not delivered the right quality of corner then, Drogba wouldn't have scored it. And mind you, Drogba's last minute goal against Man United in the 2007 FA Cup final was not a moment of individual brilliance. It owed more to a moment of team play brilliance between Lampard and Drogba.

I asked you for 'vital moments' that you think Mata is not delivering and yet all you have given is just comparison with another player. Not giving the moments like I asked kinda defeat your point about Mata doesn't have the 'X-Factor' in him. You say it but don't have the substance to back it up. And think it has been obvious that you like Isco very much judging from your post above and the one posted in his thread IIRC but it seems to me that you are using him as a reason to downplay the quality of players we have, first Oscar and now Mata, all because you want us to buy Isco.

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

lol at Mata doesn't have the nerve, dude was bailing us out single handedly mid season

[Jase 43,479]

Juan Mata staying at Chelsea and will get Mourinho call to rubbish Barcelona links

A complete turnaround from the Mirror...

Juan Mata’s future at Chelsea is secure, with Jose Mourinho planning to make the Spanish ace pivotal to his new-look Blues.

Mata’s Stamford Bridge future appeared in doubt amid suggestions the Special One was not entirely convinced by the former Valencia man.

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The Portuguese will instead tell Mata that he is integral to his thoughts and team-shape for the new campaign.

Mourinho’s determination to keep Mata at the club and onside - a new five-year deal could be on the cards as a statement of intent - will reassure Blues fans, who have taken the little Spaniard to their hearts.

[Leif 6,006]