Popular Post! edetarod 2,155 Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 30, 2014 good thing is alot of Belgian fanboiz will be leaving with him couris, Barbara, Fernando and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFC12 134 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 He said he wants to play CL this season.. and then he joins a side which don't have any chance to play in it for atleast next 5-6 years or so maybe more and more.So ironic. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Madmax 9,219 Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 30, 2014 Sturridge showed what he's capable of in a Chelsea shirt when his competition was a younger Drogba and still-new Torres who enjoyed much more confidence and faith from everyone at the club; Lukaku folded (yes, WC year, I know) when Eto'o was plucked from the wilderness and Torres was beyond all hope and repair. That's the difference between the two. oldportblue, bababoom, sherry33 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I don't hate him. I'm disappointed in him. Learn the difference.http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/02/11/uk-soccer-belgium-lukaku-idUKBREA1A0FZ20140211Dude... If this is your way to show disappointment... man I would never want to be married with you. You clearly cannot stop arguing about it .In the Lukaku topic you remind me of a really good friend of mine I used to have... The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Are we really selling Lukaku for a price that is just a few million less than Costa's? Pretty mind-boggling if true. oldportblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Eto'o was our best striker last season. Without him god knows where we would have finished. I wish he could've stayed on this year tbh as something different to Costa.As for Drogba, one of our best ever players in his first spell here, and hasn't played a game yet in his second spell? Don't judge him before he's played, that's moronic.Strikers don't last forever. No one's questioning how good he was in his first spell, especially not me, but you can't expect him to show the same form, sharpness, etc. at his current age. There's a good reason why he's been playing in the Turkish league last season ... This is exactly what I was afraid of: people will have the same expectations from him as in his first spell but that isn't realistic. He's legend is likely to come crashing down. Bloody shame. Viper22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Basically we've sold a guy who isn't good enough to be our number 1 striker, put in a transfer request when he actually had to compete for a spot, talks too much and is technically limited.....to a club who aren't a direct rival, for twice what we paid for him. And people are moaning? EDIT...oh and he had two years left on his contract.all true.just that having Torres and 36-year-old Drogba as the only alternatives to Costa does not give me a warm feeling. Would Jose sign a 4th striker? Right now we are an injury away from last season's strike force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 He has scored over 30 goals in the last 2 seasons and he is only 21. Of course it will be worth the money. Costa was playing in the Segunda division at the age of 21 while Lukaku is playing in the Prem. He is going to get better and will prove over time that he is worth the fee. He managed to get 17 league goals at a much inferior team like WBA at the age of 19 and 15 league goals at Everton so if you look at the trend he most likely will keep on scoring and while he improves on his strengths he will work on his flaws. It is understandable why Everton would pay a lot for him. We bought him for £18m and sold him. Same thing that will probably happen to Kalas and Pasalic even if they have good loans because that is just what we seem to do.Like I was saying before, Costa at 21 was playing in the Segunda division in Spain and his goal return was not even that good considering he started over 30 games but with time he improved. People probably did not even rate Costa that much then. But the same way some people are stating that Sturridge isa complete striker because of his form now, I can guarantee some of them were saying when Sturridge was here that it was a good choice we sold him. He was selfish etc, too much mouth and one-dimensional but because he has proved to be one of the best strikers in Europe some people say it is uncomparable to Lukaku but hardly any strikers have shown what Lukaku has done at his age so when people say he is 'overrated', 'not that good', 'won't improve', I just think what a load of bullshit.He basically has gone out on loan and done what has been asked of him. He was not excellent out on loan but he was very good and performed but guess what we sell him. Logic?... But that's what we do. We will buy but never give the young talent a chance. We really don't do much to prove that this is not 'the graveyard for young talent'.It might sound bitter but I just speak the truth how I see it. If I was another team's fan such as United you can actually be happy for your loanees to do well but at us I don't get the point in celebrating when our loanees do well at other clubs when the likelihood is even if they do there best to impress out on loan, we will sell them.It's Mourinho's decision so there's amnesia to all of that. Common sense is thrown out of the window because Mourinho's a god to some here. Amblève., Stats and ParNolio7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I'm not getting enough likes on this forum for my comments, I'm going to another forum stroey, Sheva. and thedrog108 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Stats 7,142 Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 30, 2014 Here's what you don't understand and keep burying your head in the sand about.WE loan players, players don't ask to be loaned.He quit in the face of opposition. You want to bash the club because you're so enamoured with this player that you ignore these basic facts. Mourinho is a winner. He demands a certain level of commitment from his players. Lukaku FAILED to live up to that. He will never succeed. Try and get your head around that.So we loan players and how much exactly have been successfully integrated into the first team? .... So we sign Lukaku for £18m and because he asked for a loan move we have sold him. WOW. He asked for a loan move and Mourinho does not want him in his long term plans because of that You just have too much hatred towards him. Stating he will "never succeed". We will see what he accomplishes by the end of his career then? Facts are he asked for a loan which everyone knows but Mourinho let him out on loan then complained that our strikers were the problem. Like everyone pointed out and made us look like flipping idiots, our best striker was fucking loaned out and guess what no trophies. But logic is if you ask for a loan even if you have intentions of coming back here it means you should be sold. WOW, that is beyond crazy. When Rooney asked to leave United, I did not see him get booted out. You know why? Because he let his football do the talking but with us we can't give him that chance.We both have our different views on it. You think it is understandable. I don't think it is understandable to sell one of the best 21 year old strikers in Europe who has got into double figures for the last 2 seasons, is HG and instead by Drogba. I don't agree because I reckon he will get into double figures for probably every season and eventually take Europe by storm. You agree in selling one of the best young strikers just because he asked for a loan. Agree to disagree mediator, Mufassir08, polleforever and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Looks like he is joining Everton permanently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 30, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 30, 2014 But the same way some people are stating that Sturridge isa complete striker because of his form now, I can guarantee some of them were saying when Sturridge was here that it was a good choice we sold him. He was selfish etc, too much mouth and one-dimensional but because he has proved to be one of the best strikers in Europe some people say it is uncomparable to Lukaku but hardly any strikers have shown what Lukaku has done at his age so when people say he is 'overrated', 'not that good', 'won't improve', I just think what a load of bullshitCompletely not true and the situation between Sturridge and Lukaku is different. I for example was gutted to see Sturridge go, from the get go I was and remained one of his strongest, vocal supporters (check the Sturridge thread if you don't believe me) but I'm not too fussed about Lukaku leaving tbh, especially since we got a nice price for him. Sturridge was messed about by the club. He sacrificed his game under AVB and played on the RW in an unnatural position, and was one of our key players under AVB for a while - he actually finished as top scorer for us in the league despite playing out of position that year, and despite not basically not playing at all under RDM after AVB was sacked. Sturridge has always been a technical player and very complete, people's problem with him wasn't his mouth, it was that he seemed too selfish on the pitch. Romelu's situation is very different. Lukaku has not contributed anything at all to our club and was too scared to fight for his place last year (unlike Sturridge who was a real casualty in the 'Torres must play at all times' situation), hence why he went out on loan to a more comfortable environment where he'd 100% be the number one striker. Yes, he's scored goals for Everton and WBA but that's not his problem, everyone knows Romelu will get goals wherever he goes. He has some real, technical weaknesses to his game that he will never really fully fix, and because of that he'll never be a true complete striker. Romelu clearly wanted to go - that's more than apparent because he clearly has said that on multiple occasions - unlike Sturridge who only said that he deserves a chance as a striker at CFC - those two are very different things. Sturridge really wanted to play for CFC and did almost everything, whilst Romelu hasn't done anything for us. He doesn't get along with Mourinho, isn't willing to fight it out with Costa, Torres and Drogba, has been angling for a move from our club for ages so the best option by far is to sell him now whilst we can get close to £30m for someone who doesn't even want to be here. Romelu will definitely be a good striker, but it isn't a certainty at all that he'll be one of the best in Europe. He still has a lot of developing to do in quite a few aspects of his game. I personally think Everton will be his ceiling though, whilst I always thought from day one that Sturridge could be a WC striker (he's not there yet though). I don't have the same feeling about Lukaku so I say adios easily, because he has done nothing here. The Mak, bababoom, Jype and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Maybe I should consider, people are probably less cocky over there!Nah I'll still be around, believe it or not, I was here before the Belgians and will remain after.Clearly not a Chelsea fan.Just someone here to talk trash against anyone that has a word against his Belgium compatriots..... kellzfresh, Sir Mikel OBE, Polo7 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParNolio7 285 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 haha man you gotta love these Lukaku bashers like viper22 and the only place to be ... probably mean fokall in their own lives but they bash a 21-year old who scored 32 goals in two EPL seasons like he's a piece of sh*t. grow some sense of perspective guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry33 234 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 It's Mourinho's decision so there's amnesia to all of that. Common sense is thrown out of the window because Mourinho's a god to some here. Keep on hating. You little hater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 still nothing at the chelsea hp, I'll wait and see, if he leaves in Jose I trust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenIsLegend 475 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If he did this around Mou he would be crucified.https://vine.co/v/MTYdiXUjYFY bababoom and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry33 234 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 haha man you gotta love these Lukaku bashers like viper22 and the only place to be ... probably mean fokall in their own lives but they bash a 21-year old who scored 32 goals in two EPL seasons like he's a piece of sh*t. grow some sense of perspective guys.How about you piss off? If you support Chelsea more than your lover Lukaku than shut up. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 And where did Lavezzi spend majority of his Napoli days playing as a second striker in a 3-5-2 with Cavani. The point is that he is very good as a striker and will fit our style of play recently. There were also rumours we wanted to sign him, so that's why he is being suggested.It's amazing how Lukaku has turned to shit so quickly. Jay Rodriguez better than Lukaku? I really like Lavezzi, but he's not a striker! Napoli did not play with an orthodox 3-5-2 in the fact that they played 2 strikers, Lavezzi sat off of Cavani as more of an inside forward winger. He only scored 48 in 188 for Napoli, those are not the stats of a striker. And anyway, even if he did play as a striker in a 2 man strike force, it's a world of difference to playing by yourself up top. As a side note, I do like him and I agree he'd fit our style of play. Unfortunately we're inundated with wingers atm so do not need him. If we sold someone then yes, but otherwise, no.Lukaku isn't shit. He's a good striker in the mid table of the PL. That's what he's always been the last 2 years. He has the POTENTIAL to step up to Chelsea's level, but you have to fulfil that potential. And yes I would prefer Jay Rodriguez to Lukaku in our team. I think he's a better player. Lukaku scored 16 goals last season being the focal point of Everton's attack. Rodriguez scored 17 for Southampton when he was the 2nd team striker behind Lambert. The Skipper and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 So we loan players and how much exactly have been successfully integrated into the first team? .... So we sign Lukaku for £18m and because he asked for a loan move we have sold him. WOW. He asked for a loan move and Mourinho does not want him in his long term plans because of that You just have too much hatred towards him. Stating he will "never succeed". We will see what he accomplishes by the end of his career then? I don't hate him. I loved the idea of him playing for us but I'm disappointed that he threw it away.He actually asked to leave the club. This club. The club you say you support. He didn't want to play for it. Facts are he asked for a loan which everyone knows but Mourinho let him out on loan then complained that our strikers were the problem. Like everyone pointed out and made us look like flipping idiots, our best striker was fucking loaned out and guess what no trophies. But logic is if you ask for a loan even if you have intentions of coming back here it means you should be sold. WOW, that is beyond crazy. When Rooney asked to leave United, I did not see him get booted out. You know why? Because he let his football do the talking but with us we can't give him that chance.Jose doesn't want players who don't want to work hard and win their spot. That's the truth. If you can't understand that then I can't help you.Just please, for my benefit say that you understand this basic notion. I normally assume people read things I post, absorb them, understand them....but with you I actually need to see you say that you've read and understand it. If you do I'll donate £5 to the monthly upkeep of this site ok because I feel like I've typed it before but it's simply not registered with you.Ok?Cheers.We both have our different views on it. You think it is understandable. I don't think it is understandable to sell one of the best 21 year old strikers in Europe who has got into double figures for the last 2 seasons, is HG and instead by Drogba. I don't agree because I reckon he will get into double figures for probably every season and eventually take Europe by storm. You agree in selling one of the best young strikers just because he asked for a loan. Agree to disagree Actually it comes down to attitude. Yes he scored goals for mid-table sides at a young age. Technically I think he leaves a lot to be desired, but that all pales in comparison to attitude.Again, try and understand that. What we have is a squad full of players with first-class attitudes. Lukaku requested a transfer because he had competition for a spot.If that's what you think is a decent attitude to have to your profession, then you're going to get an almighty wake-up call when you leave school and enter the working world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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