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4 hours ago, Vesper said:

There is no history of systemic, across the board dehumanising and racial 'pickaninnyism' of whites like there has been for us people of colour for centuries.

Slavery has existed since the beginning of human time, but nothing like the a priori de-humanising, brutal African slave trade as practised by the European powers. It was based eventually off the very stripping away of our humanity, in order to justify the treatment of us like chattel animals. Post slave trade, the powerful images of otherness were used to further the concept of otherness and racial inferiority within the greater white nationalist construct.

That picture enrages me as a person of colour, especially in regards to the myriad number of responses I have seen off this board that have tried to not just minimise and rationalise Silva's actions, but in many cases say there is nothing wrong with it at all, often accompanied by even more grotesque and racist memes and words.

I am also a person of color, Not black though, but still am a person of color.  I also know what racism is and I also had incidents of racism happen to me. But I don´t see the outrage of this picture though because Silva and Mendy are best friends and Silva meant it as a joke. He was stupid to post something like that in public because we live in a society where humour does not exist anymore, even though that post was not funny to me. When you watch their Instagram videos, Silva also made other jokes that are very similar to this. In my circle of friends, we also make those kind of jokes because we mean it as a joke, not to insult one others ethniticity. We all are friends and know that we mean it as jokes. It would be a different case if a member of KKK would have posted that.

I remember a show called "Chapelles Show" where Dave made all kinds of racist, homophobic jokes and it was hilarious. He as a black man made fun of all races. No scandal back then. Nowadays, everyone takes anything too serious. But everyone has their own sensitivity when it comes to this topics.

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54 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Where are you from Vesper if I may ask? I thought you were a blond from sweden lol.

I am from London (born there), but live in Stockholm for several years now with my  wife, who is a Swede (yes a blonde, lol) also born and raised in London, I am half Swedish (blonde father) and half Bajan

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

I am from London (born there), but live in Stockholm for several years now with my  wife, who is a Swede (yes a blonde, lol) also born and raised in London, I am half Swedish (blonde father) and half Bajan

Damn....you got me there Vesper. Good stuff......good luck to both of your.

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Spuds having essentially the exact same squad for what seems like ages looks to finally be catching up to them. They look stale.

Still capable of bursts of brilliance but have been all over the place so far this season. I'd love to see Poch leave them but he'd then surely go to United and make them a problem again.

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