The English Football Thread

[manpe 10,861]

Just looked up this B.Silva case. Did anybody ask Mendy what he thought about it? To me it seems like friendly banter, nothing more nothing less. Racist? There is REAL racism in the world which they should focus their energy on, not some harmless jokes. The word "racism" has been devalued so badly, as if friends joking among each other is equal to some violent nazi pieces of shits

[Atomiswave 6,072]

5 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Pep's defence was beyond stupid. Mentioning Silva being multilingual as a reason to pardon his tweet. 

Pathetic tbh

He is full of it

3 minutes ago, manpe said:

Just looked up this B.Silva case. Did anybody ask Mendy what he thought about it? To me it seems like friendly banter, nothing more nothing less. Racist? There is REAL racism in the world which they should focus their energy on, not some harmless jokes. The word "racism" has been devalued so badly, as if friends joking among each other is equal to some violent nazi pieces of shits

Yeah I agree....you cant say shit no more, everything is zoomed in. But still Silva was stupid in this regard, im sure he aint no racist but keep it inhouse and all is well.

[LAM09 6,825]

Just looked up this B.Silva case. Did anybody ask Mendy what he thought about it? To me it seems like friendly banter, nothing more nothing less. Racist? There is REAL racism in the world which they should focus their energy on, not some harmless jokes. The word "racism" has been devalued so badly, as if friends joking among each other is equal to some violent nazi pieces of shits

There's a thing call WhatsApp for a reason. Sharing "banter" infront of millions is asking for trouble.  

 

 

However, I do agree with too many people crying wolf at the slightest comment.

[Vesper 29,170]

1 hour ago, Atomiswave said:

B.Silva just got a 6 game ban for his racist comments....

Good. 

This

is unacceptable.

[manpe 10,861]

Good. 
This

is unacceptable.

But if it was a white child with some white cartoon character?

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[LAM09 6,825]

But if it was a white child with some white cartoon character?

 

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You do realise two wrongs don't make a right?

[manpe 10,861]

You do realise two wrongs don't make a right?

Yes, but I see no wrongs.

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[manpe 10,861]

There's a thing call WhatsApp for a reason. Sharing "banter" infront of millions is asking for trouble.   
 
However, I do agree with too many people crying wolf at the slightest comment.

Whatsapp is a sellout to facebook, use telegram instead.

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[LAM09 6,825]

Yes, but I see no wrongs.

That isn't something I can help you with, then.

Whatsapp is a sellout to facebook, use telegram instead.

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Lol! I'm just using an example of private messaging.

[Vesper 29,170]

14 minutes ago, manpe said:

But if it was a white child with some white cartoon character?

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There is no history of systemic, across the board dehumanising and racial 'pickaninnyism' of whites like there has been for us people of colour for centuries.

Slavery has existed since the beginning of human time, but nothing like the a priori de-humanising, brutal African slave trade as practised by the European powers. It was based eventually off the very stripping away of our humanity, in order to justify the treatment of us like chattel animals. Post slave trade, the powerful images of otherness were used to further the concept of otherness and racial inferiority within the greater white nationalist construct.

That picture enrages me as a person of colour, especially in regards to the myriad number of responses I have seen off this board that have tried to not just minimise and rationalise Silva's actions, but in many cases say there is nothing wrong with it at all, often accompanied by even more grotesque and racist memes and words.

[manpe 10,861]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

There is no history of systemic, across the board dehumanising and racial 'pickaninnyism' of whites like there has been for us people of colour for centuries.

Slavery has existed since the beginning of human time, but nothing like the a priori de-humanising, brutal African slave trade as practised by the European powers. It was based eventually off the very stripping away of our humanity, in order to justify the treatment of us like chattel animals. Post slave trade, the powerful images of otherness were used to further the concept of otherness and racial inferiority within the greater white nationalist construct.

That picture enrages me as a person of colour, especially in regards to the myriad number of responses I have seen off this board that have tried to not just minimise and rationalise Silva's actions, but in many cases say there is nothing wrong with it at all, often accompanied by even more grotesque and racist memes and words.

I would understand that if it was maliciously directed at a whole race, but it was aimed at a single individual who, as I understand, is his friend(why would he be if Silva is being a racist prick towards him?) and didn't kick up any fuss over it. I don't see any intent to dehumanize or pickawhatever anybody either. Unless Mendy expresses that it somehow hurt him, then it's a non-story for me. The only thing I blame Bernardo of is that he wasn't smart enough to realize the snowflakey world we live in these days and shouldn't have posted that publicly. If you want to see real racism, then I can dig up some nazi forum links from dark web for you.

6 game ban for something that the supposed victim didn't even complain about is far over the top and is probably being done only for PR purposes (hey look! we're combating savage racism!)

 

[Vesper 29,170]

1 hour ago, manpe said:

I would understand that if it was maliciously directed at a whole race, but it was aimed at a single individual who, as I understand, is his friend(why would he be if Silva is being a racist prick towards him?) and didn't kick up any fuss over it. I don't see any intent to dehumanize or pickawhatever anybody either. Unless Mendy expresses that it somehow hurt him, then it's a non-story for me. The only thing I blame Bernardo of is that he wasn't smart enough to realize the snowflakey world we live in these days and shouldn't have posted that publicly. If you want to see real racism, then I can dig up some nazi forum links from dark web for you.

6 game ban for something that the supposed victim didn't even complain about is far over the top and is probably being done only for PR purposes (hey look! we're combating savage racism!)

 

it is racist and massively offensive, he was a fool for putting it up on social media, I do not care if they are mates and Mendy has such little self-esteem he accepts it (if he indeed does, as to that I do not know)

I am not going to argue this point any further, you know my thoughts on the subject

[Atomiswave 6,072]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

There is no history of systemic, across the board dehumanising and racial 'pickaninnyism' of whites like there has been for us people of colour for centuries.

Slavery has existed since the beginning of human time, but nothing like the a priori de-humanising, brutal African slave trade as practised by the European powers. It was based eventually off the very stripping away of our humanity, in order to justify the treatment of us like chattel animals. Post slave trade, the powerful images of otherness were used to further the concept of otherness and racial inferiority within the greater white nationalist construct.

That picture enrages me as a person of colour, especially in regards to the myriad number of responses I have seen off this board that have tried to not just minimise and rationalise Silva's actions, but in many cases say there is nothing wrong with it at all, often accompanied by even more grotesque and racist memes and words.

Where are you from Vesper if I may ask? I thought you were a blond from sweden lol.

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And stinking pool just got scot free in the cup......they avoided the ban....of course they did.

[killer1257 3,282]

4 hours ago, Vesper said:

There is no history of systemic, across the board dehumanising and racial 'pickaninnyism' of whites like there has been for us people of colour for centuries.

Slavery has existed since the beginning of human time, but nothing like the a priori de-humanising, brutal African slave trade as practised by the European powers. It was based eventually off the very stripping away of our humanity, in order to justify the treatment of us like chattel animals. Post slave trade, the powerful images of otherness were used to further the concept of otherness and racial inferiority within the greater white nationalist construct.

That picture enrages me as a person of colour, especially in regards to the myriad number of responses I have seen off this board that have tried to not just minimise and rationalise Silva's actions, but in many cases say there is nothing wrong with it at all, often accompanied by even more grotesque and racist memes and words.

I am also a person of color, Not black though, but still am a person of color.  I also know what racism is and I also had incidents of racism happen to me. But I don´t see the outrage of this picture though because Silva and Mendy are best friends and Silva meant it as a joke. He was stupid to post something like that in public because we live in a society where humour does not exist anymore, even though that post was not funny to me. When you watch their Instagram videos, Silva also made other jokes that are very similar to this. In my circle of friends, we also make those kind of jokes because we mean it as a joke, not to insult one others ethniticity. We all are friends and know that we mean it as jokes. It would be a different case if a member of KKK would have posted that.

I remember a show called "Chapelles Show" where Dave made all kinds of racist, homophobic jokes and it was hilarious. He as a black man made fun of all races. No scandal back then. Nowadays, everyone takes anything too serious. But everyone has their own sensitivity when it comes to this topics.

[Fernando 6,497]

5 hours ago, Vesper said:

Good. 

This

is unacceptable.

I don't understand? Is conquitos supposed to be a racist cartoon? 

[Vesper 29,170]

54 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Where are you from Vesper if I may ask? I thought you were a blond from sweden lol.

I am from London (born there), but live in Stockholm for several years now with my  wife, who is a Swede (yes a blonde, lol) also born and raised in London, I am half Swedish (blonde father) and half Bajan

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

I am from London (born there), but live in Stockholm for several years now with my  wife, who is a Swede (yes a blonde, lol) also born and raised in London, I am half Swedish (blonde father) and half Bajan

Damn....you got me there Vesper. Good stuff......good luck to both of your.