Tricky 301 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 So Pele isn't the best just because he thinks he is?Sigh!!! Pele never left Brazil, football wasn't a global activity like it is today with players freely flowing to the best leagues. That's why the world cup has lost a little something in recent years, the quality of club football teams is you calls better than most international clubs. Players today (messi let's say) regularly play against some of the best players in the world. Pele never underwent this kind of challenge, he stayed at Santos and continued to whip the local amateur players.I'd rather have messi, and would certainly choose Maradona over him if I had too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Sigh!!!Pele never left Brazil, football wasn't a global activity like it is today with players freely flowing to the best leagues. That's why the world cup has lost a little something in recent years, the quality of club football teams is you calls better than most international clubs.Players today (messi let's say) regularly play against some of the best players in the world. Pele never underwent this kind of challenge, he stayed at Santos and continued to whip the local amateur players.I'd rather have messi, and would certainly choose Maradona over him if I had too.DON'T YOU FORGET THE AMAZING NEW YORK COSMOS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 That's ridiculous,South American leagues used to be head to head if not better than European leagues back then.You rarely saw top players leaving their countries in their peak years like today.Pele destroyed many European teams like Eusebio's Benfica and Milan,not to mention owning the best defender of all time, Beckenbauer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Sigh!!!Pele never left Brazil, football wasn't a global activity like it is today with players freely flowing to the best leagues. That's why the world cup has lost a little something in recent years, the quality of club football teams is you calls better than most international clubs.Players today (messi let's say) regularly play against some of the best players in the world. Pele never underwent this kind of challenge, he stayed at Santos and continued to whip the local amateur players.I'd rather have messi, and would certainly choose Maradona over him if I had too.Just shut up!Brazilian football was as good as European back in 50s, 60s and 70s. You all just got really good because you now have African and South American players. Take all them out and put them back to their own countries and try to analyse how much quality EPL would have.Serioulsy, what a bad argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Maradona is the most overrated player in the history of the game,you can make a poll out of the people who saw him play(including me) and most will agree with me that he is only a top 10 player,Messi and Pele are not only better but have done much more than primadonaI Personally think Messi, De Stefano, and Zidane, Muller were the only better footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I Personally think Messi, De Stefano, and Zidane, Muller were the only better footballers.Pele,Messi,Di Stefano,Platini,Garrincha,Beckenbauer and Cruyff were better than him imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 with our new system it looks like it is destined for a certain NEYMAR. He has been playing as a false 9 for Brazil for a while and his link up play and friendship with Oscar is to our advantage. Think about it, if he wants to be the best why would he go to barca and real m. when they have CR7 and Messi. I am telling you guys , Roman's next surprise to us is NEYMAR not FALCAO.PS= we have always bought strikers that do not fit our system of play, as such a CAVANI or a NEYMAR fit us better than a FALCAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 with our new system it looks like it is destined for a certain NEYMAR. He has been playing as a false 9 for Brazil for a while and his link up play and friendship with Oscar is to our advantage. Think about it, if he wants to be the best why would he go to barca and real m. when they have CR7 and Messi. I am telling you guys , Roman's next surprise to us is NEYMAR not FALCAO.PS= we have always bought strikers that do not fit our system of play, as such a CAVANI or a NEYMAR fit us better than a FALCAO.Nah Neymar is playing mostly on the left wing as inside forward ala CR7/Henry, what we need is a CF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Nah Neymar is playing mostly on the left wing as inside forward ala CR7/Henry, what we need is a CF.Would be a dream if we bought Neymar, Sturridge steps up and becomes our #1 CF before January, we sell Torres and invest in a semi-cheap promising CF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Would be a dream if we bought Neymar, Sturridge steps up and becomes our #1 CF before January, we sell Torres and invest in a semi-cheap promising CF.How many semi-cheap promising CFs are there?Kolbeinn SigþórssonStephen El ShaarawyStevan JovetićKevin GameiroMattia DestroNélson OliveraLuc CastaignosErick TorresFrancisco AlácerMarcel SabitzerBut how many of these players will actually come cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 How many semi-cheap promising CFs are there?Kolbeinn SigþórssonStephen El ShaarawyStevan JovetićKevin GameiroMattia DestroNélson OliveraLuc CastaignosErick TorresFrancisco AlácerMarcel SabitzerBut how many of these players will actually come cheap?Semi-cheap in Chelsea standard is like 25-30m. And with those kind of money that list isnt interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I think Chelsea should go ahead and buy him. All this talk about players "adapting" to the PL has been kinda unproven by players like Oscar and Hazard. Skill and ability does not change with a new shirt color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 How many semi-cheap promising CFs are there?Kolbeinn SigþórssonStephen El ShaarawyStevan JovetićKevin GameiroMattia DestroNélson OliveraLuc CastaignosErick TorresFrancisco AlácerMarcel SabitzerBut how many of these players will actually come cheap?You missed Guidetti, Rodri (benfica), Insigne,...There are plenty of them, but it has no point of spending 15mio on such prospects when we need a powerful striker. If you wants semi cheap prospect, play Lukaku or Danny. Personaly I would even play Torres ahead of any under 23yrs old available striker right now. Too much risk in the development of that player, his inexperience, possibility that he wouldnt fit in our system, lack of confidence. Top strikers are almost all above 24 years old because experience is key to be great striker and have ability to win the match. And we need a striker with winning mentality, someone who can win match on his own, when whole team fails. Drogba was doing that for us, Falcao, Cavani are doing it for their clubs now. Get one of these two in winter if we want to get on next level, buying some kid just because we dont want to play with torres is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I would have wet dreams if we signed Neymar. We wouldn't be playing football anymore, we would produce magic in the pitch. The bets wouldn't be about number of goals anymore, but of how many superb dribbles and memorable plays would we create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunter 22 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 As an austrian I´m a little proud to see Marcel Sabitzer in one list with Stephen El Shaarawy but I don´t like to rate young players on their first form high. I think you can see the real potential in the way he works his way back from a low. Besides that I can´t remember anything extraordinary from him the Bundesliga.To Nyemar:I don´t like his atitude and his pricetag.But I have to admit that he would fit perfect in our game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 He fits on wing more than as false nine. We have plenty of creativity behind our striker. Currently we lack of end product, not creating chances. Our priority should be striker who is well at positioning and can score the goal anywhere inside penalty area. Someone who is experienced enough. Neymar is fantastic player, if he played on wing for us, that would be awesome, but not as our main striker. And about his attitude, lets be professional and keep emotions away as long our club would be winning because of him. His pricetag, however is ridiculous, mostly because he never played in europe yet. 60mio is just too much. 35 would be more apropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFCLiam 4 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Over rated, he'll be terrible when he starts to play against good opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Over rated, he'll be terrible when he starts to play against good opposition.He has played against quality opposition. He plays in the Brazil national team and they play the other national teams, the national teams have the best players from the nation. Brazilian league isnt that bad either.This is what was said about Oscar and Hazard but its less them adjusting to the league its more the league adjusting to them.Neymar is awesome and will be awesome end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 He has played against quality opposition. He plays in the Brazil national team and they play the other national teams, the national teams have the best players from the nation. Brazilian league isnt that bad either.This is what was said about Oscar and Hazard but its less them adjusting to the league its more the league adjusting to them.Neymar is awesome and will be awesome end of story.Dude the guy you're replying too is a LEEDS FAN trolling...Don't waste your time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneBridge 4 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 He will go either Barca or RM, very much doubt he will come to England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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