Josh McEachran

[CHOULO19 24,332]

you to stop moving posts if you dont like them .. perhaps you should just lock the ones you dont like???

If I don't like them? Half the posts I moved were my own!

I brought up MVG to highlight Josh's passing abilities. Some responses came about MVG only and I replied to them about MVG only as well which means they have nothing to do with this thread. So I moved them to Marco's thread because I felt that the discussion will go on for a long time. I did not want this thread to get derailed. Unfortunately you seem intent on just that.

[Fernando 6,585]

What exactly is it that you want?!

Your job!

[zolayes 14,489]

If I don't like them? Half the posts I moved were my own!

I brought up MVG to highlight Josh's passing abilities. Some responses came about MVG only and I replied to them about MVG only as well which means they have nothing to do with this thread. So I moved them to Marco's thread because I felt that the discussion will go on for a long time. I did not want this thread to get derailed. Unfortunately you seem intent on just that.

dont be so precious

[Goemaere 131]

Has to go on loan to improve his defensive abilities. I'd guess calargri would be great if they sell naingolann.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

I wonder what the comments would be if Josh wasn't our local boy, if he was signed for 5-10M. I will always support him, no matter what happens and who comes in. Of course I like our kid better than some other youngster like Van Ginkel.

If Jose thinks a loan move would do him good then find him a good environment and hope he can deliver. Good luck Josh !

[╫rue Blue 47]

maybe essien - MVG our best pivot so far i think

but only in term of passing ability and ball distribution

McEachrahn > MvG > Essien > Ramires

sorry if i too overhyped him

but that what i saw from this game

i think he perform well today, and his passing i really love it

I just agree with this post

I was thinking exactly that! Josh was passing into pockets of space with ease whilst MvG was struggling to go forward.

That's the thing I love about Joshy's game is that he always looks to go forward with fast and decisive passing that unlocks doors and turns defences inside and out.

although he absolutely still need works on because MvG maybe more complete midfielder than him

[The Skipper 20,609]

McEachran has always been a brilliant passer, don't know why people are surprised or anything. It's the other aspects on his game he needs to desperately work on and that's why MVG > McEachran because Marco is far more rounded and ready for first team action.

Nice little cameo from Josh though.

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

I was thinking exactly that! Josh was passing into pockets of space with ease whilst MvG was struggling to go forward.

That's the thing I love about Joshy's game is that he always looks to go forward with fast and decisive passing that unlocks doors and turns defences inside and out.

You don't always have to go forward though. Josh will sometimes try and force a 30 or 40 yard pass as opposed to playing a safer option, helping the team recycle possession.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

Really...if people are so concerned with the defensive aspect of his game, why is sending him on loan the best and maybe the only option? Is it practically impossible to improve youth players in this club by including them in the first team?

As far as I'm concerned, a loan move is a massive waste of time as he doesn't get to play his natural game. He would be better off here, making sub appearances and starting against weaker opposition.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

I've been hard on him and I know its only against a team of scrubs but he probably played the pivot today better than any other player we've tried there in a long time.

Great performance.

His defending isn't even his biggest flaw it's his consistency and passiveness.

Thiago, Scholes, Verratti, Pirlo, Modric, Pizarro etc none of these players are even average defenders but are the cream of the crop in that particular position.

[DDA 9,924]

You don't always have to go forward though. Josh will sometimes try and force a 30 or 40 yard pass as opposed to playing a safer option, helping the team recycle possession.

True say, though because Josh likes to play attacking football doesn't mean he can't play safe, possession footy.

[royg 96]

I think someone from our coaching staff mentioned before that a loan move is good for Josh to keep his consistency up. He is talented, yes. But he needs to have a playing consistency of at least 20-30 competitive games per season. The transition from swansea to middlesbrough loan was big for him and in the middle of last yr season he got injured and got fatigued!

He is skilled and talent-wise he is ready for first team but he will develop better his whole-rounded game if he gets consistent playing time.

[Stats 7,140]

It would be good for him to stick around the first team and develop but if you are not going to play what is the point? Loan football is vital in that situation then rather than stall and play U21 football for us. Loans for the likes of Cleverley and Wilshere who are similar in play helped them very well and Josh should be able to prove he is worth it out on loan because next season he is up against many players who are advanced of him right now.

I can see why people say it helps with him sticking around with the first team but on his part and the club's part of assessing his ability he needs a loan to keep learning his trade and develop physically. Just because his previous loan moves was not total successes that is not to say that he can't prove himself again if/when he goes out on loan. There are many teams I look at in the PL/Championship where I believe he can get playing time in his natural position.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

You don't always have to go forward though. Josh will sometimes try and force a 30 or 40 yard pass as opposed to playing a safer option, helping the team recycle possession.

That's mot true. Josh can play possession short-passing football extremely well. He did it brilliantly in the England U21 Euro qualifiers.

Don't get why people are criticizing Josh's defending after yesterday. Yes he used to have problems in that aspect, but I thought yesterday he was defensively sound and solid. His movement and positioning were excellent, he blocked the passing angles well and pressured at the right time and even made a few tackles (gave away two fouls).

I know he only played for 25 mins, but can someone make a video compilation of his performance?

[Hutcho 8,443]

Good performance. I would still send him on loan. He is fighting over 1/2 places and will probably have a lot of bench time. He needs to go to a club and establish himself then come back and give it a crack.