ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 We need a guy like Sneider If he come for the right price: no more than 23m.Barking mad. IMO you'd need at least 30-35, when he left madrid probably could have paid 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Not my point. He bought those players I mentioned, wich means he also buy shit players.José also considered those players good. He wasnt a big fan of the nigerian, anyway.Every manager makes transfer market failures, name me 1 who hasnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ess if you want to stay within the club, Alonso, Mascherano, Busquets...Realistically speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Important note:Mikel and big games just don't go together.He can play against Bolton,Stoke,Birmingham etc.In those games we need someone to keep the ball,play some simple passes and to be calm.Ancelotti used him in that position when Essien was injured,but in big games he never performed(this season:Liverpool home,ManU away-matches that i can think of right now).It was always going to be Bison over him.My point is:if it comes down to selling one of them,I'd chose Obi.___________Essien_______________Ramires____Sneijder________________Essien______________Sneijder____Lamps____________Ramires___McEachran__________Sneijder/Lamps_______We can always rotate Lamps and Wesley in that position to keep everyone fresh.We can even use the two of them together.Frank as a scoring midfielder and Sneijder as a typical playmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ess if you want to stay within the club, Alonso, Mascherano, Busquets...none of those would be cheap even if available ,,,AND ESSIEN ISNT A HOLDING MIDFIELDER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Not my point. He bought those players I mentioned, wich means he also buy shit players.José also considered those players good. He wasnt a big fan of the nigerian, anyway.I don't like Jose and his brand of football but I have no reservation to say that he is tactical genious in modern football. He knows what is right for his system and most of the time he does things right. I have not watch much Sachhi or Ernst Happel but he definitely owns all other tactical managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Bison wasn't great against Man utd. And not to mention that we conceded 2 against Arse when he came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 so you don't even rate Mourhino ... I guess God must have been a BrazillianYou discovered it too late."God is Brazilian" one of most popular phrases in this country.Mourinho could be one of the greatest ever, shame that God wasnt kind with him and choose him to be a portuguese.Thats why I dont like Mourinho's character and boring football, because the poor man is from Portugal, If he could only speaks the portuguese with the proper accent ( brazilian accent, off course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 none of those would be cheap even if available ,,,AND ESSIEN ISNT A HOLDING MIDFIELDERYou never asked me to pick the budget option so sorry if i picked expensive options, must have thought we had a rich owner or something. As for Ess He is a CM, he has played defence, he has played right back and he has been a DM! He can certainly play there so lets not split hairs on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Pirlo is a great holding player. We should've gotten him in as replacement on a free, so we could have a backup to Mikel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Every manager makes transfer market failures, name me 1 who hasnt?But Mourinho every fucking season had stupid signings. You cant deby it.1 - Kezman, Jarozik.2 - Del Honor, Maniche3- BoulahourzAnd these were players who stayed for only one season or 6 months, and left for half of the price We paid.And there are those who stayed longer and never become great players here, like Kalou and Philips, not to mention the players he allowed to leave, like Parker, Duff, Diarra, Glen Jonson, Robben, Thiago...And he were always demanding new players.Not to say he was awful, but people forgot the many bad things he did when he was in charge. Mourinho at Chelsea no more, please. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Pirlo is a great holding player. We should've gotten him in as replacement on a free, so we could have a backup to Mikel Gattuso is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 He won't come, unless we pay some crazy amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 But Mourinho every fucking season had stupid signings. You cant deby it.1 - Kezman, Jarozik.2 - Del Honor, Maniche3- BoulahourzAnd these were players who stayed for only one season or 6 months, and left for half of the price We paid.And there are those who stayed longer and never become great players here, like Kalou and Philips, not to mention the players he allowed to leave, like Parker, Duff, Diarra, Glen Jonson, Robben, Thiago...And he were always demanding new players.Not to say he was awful, but people forgot the many bad things he did when he was in charge. Mourinho at Chelsea no more, please. Thanks.Agree with all of that apart from Glen Johnson, he was never that good and we were right to get rid of him, he's proving at Liverpool how inept his defending is and in his last Chelsea game he got ass raped by Oliver Kapo Jose's good thing's overdo the bad but he did make some mistakes, especially in the 06/07 season i still to this day kick myself about ending that season with 6 consecutive draws (especially the one's against Newcastle and Bolton). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Important note:Mikel and big games just don't go together.He can play against Bolton,Stoke,Birmingham etc.In those games we need someone to keep the ball,play some simple passes and to be calm.Ancelotti used him in that position when Essien was injured,but in big games he never performed(this season:Liverpool home,ManU away-matches that i can think of right now).It was always going to be Bison over him.My point is:if it comes down to selling one of them,I'd chose Obi.___________Essien_______________Ramires____Sneijder________________Essien______________Sneijder____Lamps____________Ramires___McEachran__________Sneijder/Lamps_______We can always rotate Lamps and Wesley in that position to keep everyone fresh.We can even use the two of them together.Frank as a scoring midfielder and Sneijder as a typical playmaker.Strangely enough a few of his best games have come against Man utd and Liverpool. I remembered Andy gray having a wank fest over him 3 seasons ago during his post match analysis on the game against the scummies where he had schoies and carrick in his pocket. In addition to that, mikel has only missed about 1 or 2 big games in the last 4 seasons when fit. if that alone doesn't disprove your assertion then nothing will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 But Mourinho every fucking season had stupid signings. You cant deby it.1 - Kezman, Jarozik.2 - Del Honor, Maniche3- BoulahourzAnd these were players who stayed for only one season or 6 months, and left for half of the price We paid.And there are those who stayed longer and never become great players here, like Kalou and Philips, not to mention the players he allowed to leave, like Parker, Duff, Diarra, Glen Jonson, Robben, Thiago...And he were always demanding new players.Not to say he was awful, but people forgot the many bad things he did when he was in charge. Mourinho at Chelsea no more, please. Thanks.IF only we had got a Brazillian manager ,,,,ohhhhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Wesley is a pure quality and he'd be a great signing for us. Great thing is that both him and Guus are dutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 And Mikel must go. Essien must stay.I did not know that there were people who consider Mikel a good player until I visited this forum for the first time.Mourinho, Hiddink and Ancelotti vs Henrique. I know whose opinion(s) about a player I value more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 When did Mourinho prefer Mikel to Essien? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 When did Mourinho prefer Mikel to Essien? erm never? I hope Essien finds his lost form again. What's with all the talk with some of our midfielders leaving? We need to strengthen our midfield, not weaken it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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