Wishlist Wesley Sneijder

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I remeber poeple doing the same with Deco, who is also a 'Mourinho player' how did that one work out?

....Err, pretty well? He cost £8m and was always a very good option when we wanted to control play and add flair to our game. Mourinho happened to have played with him before but he didn't even choose to sign him. Is every player to ever play under Mourinho a 'Mourinho player' now? Is every Inter Milan youth player from 2008 a Mourinho Player?

Piazon

My ribs... my lungs... they hurt Oh my god I can't believe he's being mentioned in the same breath, I'm nearly dying. First of all he's a bloody supporting striker who's been misused during his time here so far giving people the wrong impression about how he even plays, and second of all he's barely been able to start for Malaga. You think Piazon's ready for this team?

who would struggle with the pace of the PL like Deco in our squad? when we should be developing our own talented youngsters!

Struggle with the pace? Why? Because they're 'slow' at moving? Like Gareth Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, Terry, Wilshere, and bloody Mata himself? Or do you mean when it comes to 'thinking'? Because if so I'm baffled as Sneijder is one of the most intelligent players on the pitch of the last decade bar none.

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And yet the general consensus among footballing fans is that was his best season. He also played in the hole at the World Cup, where is I'm not mistaken he won the Silver Ball. He also played their during the last Euros...and at Gala...

He is a number 10 and always has been, just because he plays disimilar to Mata does not make it false. He is not like Xavi and he is not like Pirlo. You seem to think that a number 10 is restricted to playing behind the striker. A number 10 isn't always shoehorned into the 'hole'. Cristian Eriksen for instance is a number 10, yet he plays in the midfield for Ajax, same with Iniesta, he plays alongside Xavi in the midfield and he is a number 10.

Halfway through writing this, I've realised that I don't care in the slightest. Believe what you want, I really don't care about what position some rich Dutch guy plays in his little game of chase the ball.

He didn't have his best season because he was playing in a more advanced role, he had his best season because everything he attempted to do seemed to be exactly like he wanted. For me he was the best player in the world that season.

He didn't play in the hole for Netherlands because they played 4-3-3 and he is not playing there for Galatasaray, in fact if you've watched his games there you'd clearly see that he is playing the deepest man in a 3-man midfield (which is why I compared him to Pirlo and Xavi; I meant his position, not necessarily his playing style).

We obviously have different definitions of what the number 10 role is, which is fine. For me this role is personified by Mata; someone is a creative midfielder and can find that killer assist but is also a second striker and can get in the box and finish very well. On any account, however you define the number 10 position is irrelevant to the point I was making the first post and that is: Sneijder cannot be Mata's replacement in our current system.

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Are the people who say he's bad avid Galatasaray followers? I'd hate some of these opinions being flung around to be based on his last few months at Inter.

you made me lol hard tbh. brining youtube videos as a proof, that he aint playing shit? do you know any galatasaray fan? if no, than its your problem not mine. i know some and all of them say he plays shit. and also he was subbed against madrid, because he was playing bad etc. its no secret that he sucks at Gala and most fans dont even want him there to be anymore. but yeah keeo on posting your funny smileys and youtube videos.

I think if Scolari/AVB or anybody else would be our manager and he wanted this player, there would be much more critisicm. but yeah as Mourinho is god, everyhting what he wants is good and right. even signing players who have lost their hunger for football and play bad for 2 years (not a short a period tbh). he aint even playing for netherlands anymore.

this would be schürely a step backwards and not forward. beside even talking about the tactical thing, that he has no place in this team

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....Err, pretty well? He cost £8m and was always a very good option when we wanted to control play and add flair to our game.

LOL! believe that if it helps you sleep at night! fact is he was very disappointing at Chelsea! he was past his best and was often invisible in games for us and often got subbed off!

My ribs... my lungs... they hurt Oh my god I can't believe he's being mentioned in the same breath, I'm nearly dying. First of all he's a bloody supporting striker who's been misused during his time here so far giving people the wrong impression about how he even plays, and second of all he's barely been able to start for Malaga. You think Piazon's ready for this team?

LOOOOL!!! Wow your not very bright are you? Piazon is 19 years old!!! 19!!! no one said he is the finished product but he is a player developing with so much potential! but you would rather a player in decline who has no long term future at the club to come in and push Piazon further down the pecking order! its laughable that you use the fact he barley started for Malaga as part of your argument like Malaga are a mickey mouse league 2 team!!! they have so many quality players in their team and were seconds away from making the CL semi finals! and just because a 19 year old kid couldn't start regularly for them you think he isnt good enough??? LOOOL!!! I guarantee he learned alot at Malaga and will come back to Chelsea a much better player!

But yeah lets sign sneijder so he can be our 4th or 5th choice AM and push a developing youngster out the door once again! yeah such a great idea!

Struggle with the pace? Why? Because they're 'slow' at moving? Like Gareth Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, Terry, Wilshere, and bloody Mata himself? Or do you mean when it comes to 'thinking'? Because if so I'm baffled as Sneijder is one of the most intelligent players on the pitch of the last decade bar none.

Why would you list 4 CM's as if Sneijder would play there for us! you dont need pace to play CM! but to play AM in the PL it helps to either have pace or to have an incredible football brain like Mata! Sneijder has neither! and can be very sloppy in possession like Deco! and LOOOOOOL at listing Terry as well!!!

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oh so i must have dreamt him wining the Champions league with Porto with Mourinho :doh:

Seriously? We're talking about signing a 'Mourinho player' with Mourinho as manager and you can't tell the fucking difference? Are you fucking serious?

I'm starting to think that you might actually be the real Pacquiao and all those blows to the head have taken their toll.

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you made me lol hard tbh. brining youtube videos as a proof, that he aint playing shit? do you know any galatasaray fan? if no, than its your problem not mine. i know some and all of them say he plays shit. and also he was subbed against madrid, because he was playing bad etc. its no secret that he sucks at Gala and most fans dont even want him there to be anymore. but yeah keeo on posting your funny smileys and youtube videos.

I think if Scolari/AVB or anybody else would be our manager and he wanted this player, there would be much more critisicm. but yeah as Mourinho is god, everyhting what he wants is good and right. even signing players who have lost their hunger for football and play bad for 2 years (not a short a period tbh). he aint even playing for netherlands anymore.

this would be schürely a step backwards and not forward. beside even talking about the tactical thing, that he has no place in this team

Mata played 64 games last season. Who did we have as back-up? Benayoun?

Look, no-one is saying that he should be a starter or that we should spend tens of millions of pounds on him, but that if the circumstances were right that he could be a useful addition to our thin squad adding experience, a great relationship with the coach and options in a couple of positions.

Has he been at his best in the last few years? No. But anyone who knows anything about sport will know the importance of motivation.

There is a great discussion to be had about signing this player, where he could fit and what he could offer but that's beyond some people who can muster nothing more than 'he's overrated'. Fucking ridiculous.

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Seriously? We're talking about signing a 'Mourinho player' with Mourinho as manager and you can't tell the fucking difference? Are you fucking serious?

I'm starting to think that you might actually be the real Pacquiao and all those blows to the head have taken their toll.

dont try and change the subject! this is irrelevant! get back on topic and carry on trying to convince yourself that a player in decline for years would be a good signing for a team who wants to fight to every trophy next season!!! LOOOL!!!

or alternatively just give up! even Gala fans will tell you about Sneijder! or will he suddenly turn world class again because Mourinho is his manager? LOOOL! keep dreaming!

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Mata played 64 games last season. Who did we have as back-up? Benayoun?

Look, no-one is saying that he should be a starter or that we should spend tens of millions of pounds on him, but that if the circumstances were right that he could be a useful addition to our thin squad adding experience, a great relationship with the coach and options in a couple of positions.

Has he been at his best in the last few years? No. But anyone who knows anything about sport will know the importance of motivation.

There is a great discussion to be had about signing this player, where he could fit and what he could offer but that's beyond some people who can muster nothing more than 'he's overrated'. Fucking ridiculous.

LOOOL! are you sure your talking about last season and not the season before! we had 2 players 3 before Piazon went out on loan! you might have heard of the other 2 Hazard and Oscar i think there names are! pretty decent players i heard! much better than a declining Sneijder thats for sure!

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you made me lol hard tbh. brining youtube videos as a proof,

It's not 'proof'. It's an example. And it wasn't some sort of compilation, it's ONE game highlighting what he did.

do you know any galatasaray fan?

Yes and I am one myself. How many of their games have you watched this season may I ask?

i know some and all of them say he plays shit.

I know people who think Mata plays shit.

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There is a great discussion to be had about signing this player, where he could fit and what he could offer but that's beyond some people who can muster nothing more than 'he's overrated'. Fucking ridiculous.

who exactly has mustered nothing more than saying he is overrated? please tell me who i would love to know?

Its the people who cant muster nothing more than saying he was good in 2010 and all he needs is some motivation to be good again! lool we have heard that one before haven't we! (Torres)

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@Pacquiao,

You keep questioning my intelligence yet you're saying Sneijder would halt Piazon's progress. It seems you don't even understand they play completely different positions, have done their entire careers, have never played the same role and that Piazon has proven nothing close to what's required here.

It's like saying signing Schurrle would halt Oscar's progress. Or signing Benat would halt Chalobah's progress. It simply would not have any direct effect.

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dont try and change the subject! this is irrelevant! get back on topic and carry on trying to convince yourself that a player in decline for years would be a good signing for a team who wants to fight to every trophy next season!!! LOOOL!!!

or alternatively just give up! even Gala fans will tell you about Sneijder! or will he suddenly turn world class again because Mourinho is his manager? LOOOL! keep dreaming!

I'm not changing the subject - you brought up Deco, called him a Mourinho player and failed to mention that he was actually Scolari's signing (easy way to tell the difference, Scolari is bald, Jose isn't).

Again, this is a discussion about a player who has undoubted skill but seems to have had motivational issues. I don't know if you're new to sport or not but things like that matter, and if Jose thinks he can get him back to his best (which is what we're predicating this transfer on - the people suggesting we sign him are using arguments with nuances that you simply don't seem to be able to grasp) then he offers a lot of options to this squad.

LOOOL! are you sure your talking about last season and not the season before! we had 2 players 3 before Piazon went out on loan! you might have heard of the other 2 Hazard and Oscar i think there names are! pretty decent players i heard! much better than a declining Sneijder thats for sure!

Oscar played 64 games as well. Hazard played 62. Now I know you're easily confused/fucking thick but we didn't play 180-odd games last season so there was some overlap (i.e. they played most matches as a threesome) and there's also talk of moving Oscar back in the team so having another potentially top-class player in the mix as an option is something any team looking to compete on 3-4 fronts will want.

At the right price, on fair wages and properly motivated (see all these conditions people are factoring into their analysis??) he requires consideration. He isn't going to be like Deco who was envisioned as being a key player in the team, in a new system. He's going to be a rotation option (that means we give players like Mata a rest, m'kay?).

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@Pacquiao,

You keep questioning my intelligence yet you're saying Sneijder would halt Piazon's progress. It seems you don't even understand they play completely different positions, have done their entire careers, have never played the same role and that Piazon has proven nothing close to what's required here.

Mate, I would message you but I think you're pissing in the wind with this fella.

My first thought was that this was a terrible idea, but as a budget buy (basically taking a chance like we did with Marin to a certain extent, and even Belletti in a way) then I think he'd be a great bench option.

I totally agree with you on Piazon who is more of a Hazard-type player who cuts in. Having said that, I was never blown away with him in the youth ranks. Lovely touch but never really imposed himself on matches (Forest was an exception I suppose, maybe even United). The one thing he showed at Malaga which did surprise me was workrate. I think he could have a future here if he takes another step and shows something more.

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People say "Oscar should be a pivot player!!!". Alright then. When he's in this magical 'pivot' and Hazard/Mata/Schurrle or whoever are starting, who exactly comes on for Mata? Who plays for Mata when he's injured?

Currently we would have De Bruyne. That's it. And it's looking more likely that he'll not be here next season.

So again - Why is £5m worth of depth in a well decorated player who's known to be his best under Jose being dismissed? He'd cost less than Raul Meireles for god sake.

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Oscar played 64 games as well. Hazard played 62. Now I know you're easily confused/fucking thick but we didn't play 180-odd games last season so there was some overlap (i.e. they played most matches as a threesome) and there's also talk of moving Oscar back in the team so having another potentially top-class player in the mix as an option is something any team looking to compete on 3-4 fronts will want.

Ok so you are stupid then. I am fully aware of how many games Oscar and hazard played! but you said who was Mata's backup and mentioned Benayoun so do you really think if Mata missed the last 3 months of the season for example that Benayoun would have been our number 10??? LOOOL of course not Hazard or Oscar would have played there instead with Moses/Marin/Benayoun/Torres playing out wide!