haranr 485 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 He is much better than Cahill and Luiz, maybe Ivanovic is better atm because he is more experienced. Yeah that would be his price because of his age+potential. Around 30-40m, there are not many great young CB around atm.Luiz is better....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Luiz is better.......Attacking wise yet and more flair but not at the most important aspect-the defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelasticot 111 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Varane played very well last season, but he was sitting on the bench for one and a half year altough he was really talented. And a 35 years old Drogba showed us that Varane got still learn a lot to become a top defender.Good point !Mou has surely learned a lot from it. I guess youth in those defensive positions has to be used very carefully. Europe is a different battlefield, young players have often proved erratic in there.I'll try and get back to De Rossi from there. Couldn't a player like him : A very experienced leader in the defensive half of the pitch help us push our young players to get just the extra edge they need to compete on all fronts?I mean, our young boys sometimes lack concentration (sometimes they're not so eager to defend as much as they should even) and they could be inspired by a guy like De Rossi and rally with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Attacking wise yet and more flair but not at the most important aspect-the defending.No. Luiz was the perfect defender in Di Matteo's time! Benitez came along made his offense better and his defensive skills lower. Now, he is back at CB for Brazil and it seems he got it back. He is a fantastic CB. If he keeps top form then he is one of the best. atm he is better than thiago Silva ans surley better than your youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 40 million pounds? That'd be ridicilous, even if he is a great talen. He has only played one season in the Serie A so far. And he could not challenge Luiz, Cahill or Ivanovic. They are strong, experienced players. Experience really important for a CB. I share the same opinion, he's worth more than 25 million euros, thought about 35-40. Even if he's only played one season, you only need one game to watch him in action and realise he'll be a top defender in the future. Best rated CB aged betweed 18-21 years old along with Varane, Nastasic, Umtiti, Zouma, Papadopoulos, maybe De Vrij IMO. Moreover, I see Marquinhos as a one-club only player in the future. If Chelsea, Barcelona, Real Madrid, City, Paris, United will sign him will have him for years - he'll just grow bigger and bigger by year and it will be hard for someone to take his place in the 1st eleven. I don't say he'll be breaking into the first team this season, but the kid is pure class. Better than Cahill for sure, he'll be better than Luiz and Chelsea must try and sign him. Even if he'll choose Barcelona or PSG over us, but at least we tried and didn't let him go to a top team without doing all we could to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 De Rossi's girlfriend is English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 He is much better than Cahill and Luiz, maybe Ivanovic is better atm because he is more experienced. Yeah that would be his price because of his age+potential. Around 30-40m, there are not many great young CB around atm.You're joking, right? That'd make him probably the most expensive defender in history...for a player that's played 35 professional games in his entire career, and has no appearances for his national team. You want to pay elite striker money for an unproven CB. Just when I think people can't overrate potential and youth any more than they already do, someone proves me wrong. He would be worth a bid and may very well have a very bright future, but he's not worth half of what you are willing to pay for him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,533 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 We have some good young talent at CB already in Kalas,Omerou,Chalobah etc..so another one is not a priority tho they can play other positions too so if the price is right and they bought him I wouldn't complain.Meanwhile on the De Rossi thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 was just going to say maybe this talk should be taken to general or his transfer thread... any new news on de rossi haven't heard anything pleasing in last couple of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 De Rossi's girlfriend is English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 was just going to say maybe this talk should be taken to general or his transfer thread... any new news on de rossi haven't heard anything pleasing in last couple of daysSo, today Roma president hangs down the phone wrongly and whoever called him heard what he was discussing with the other director/directors about their transfer strategies? Are you buying this?Now, they talked about:-Roma will sell De Rossi for the right price. They say the right bid hasn't yet come for DanieleWell, I don't know if this wasn't just a strategy to rush the sellings, but this means De Rossi will end his journey in Rome now. Hearing this, he won't stay any second there. Hope he'll make the right decision by coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 ya i noticed that and thank you for the info but i was hoping on more of the lines chelsea and roma agreed fee for Daniele De Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Mirror are reporting that we could close the transfer for De Rossi if we'll give them Wallace on loan.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-transfers-daniele-de-rossi-2043516Italian press proved in the Cavani saga they know nothing about are businesses, maybe The Mirror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Please be true! Wallace would certainly benefit from the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Mirror are reporting that we've agreed a fee with Roma, and Roma demand Wallace on loan as part of the transfer.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-transfers-daniele-de-rossi-2043516Italian press proved in the Cavani saga they know nothing about are businesses, maybe The Mirror? Actually, they say Roma has agreed a fee WITH PSV for Kevin Strootman, who is supposed to be De Rossi's replacement, not with Chelsea for Daniele. They are also saying Roma will accept a £11million bid from Chelsea, but they want Wallace on loan for a season.Roma Calcio News @romacalcionews Dall'Olanda: accordo raggiunto per Strootman, al PSV 20 milioni. Now I think it's crystal clear - De Rossi's days in Rome are counted. C'mon Jose, make it happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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