Leif 6,006 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 £20m + Essien & a steak pie would be a good deal IMO. Strike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I didn't want him before, but i really do now because he will come for cheaper and we all know how good he can be.I'm actually surprised at his lack of impact in Spain, but their loss lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Does he actually play well in a pivot? At Tottenham he played in a central midfield role I believe with much less defensive duties than he'd have here, and most of his games I've seen at Madrid have been behind the striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 So the Modric saga is back on? Oh lord... Hamilton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,984 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 In other words, we shouldn't have let Essien sod off to Madrid!I was really against that move. I literally couldn't believe it when I saw that we had let him go to Madrid. A lot of people were moaning that he isn't good enough to play here anymore and yes he isn't as good as he once but still a very decent player who knows the DM role like the back of his hand. Letting him go there and not bringing in a proven DM in his place has shown to be a big mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 bump! Yesterday he was awesome and i think we need to sign him up in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,188 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 He was brilliant last night, a real ball dictator and far too good to be sat on a bench. killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 He was brilliant last night, a real ball dictator and far too good to be sat on a bench.ball dictator he maybe but his defensive abilities raise question marks. in a team with Mata Oscar Hazard shying away from defensive duties we need strong pivot imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,423 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 ball dictator he maybe but his defensive abilities raise question marks. in a team with Mata Oscar Hazard shying away from defensive duties we need strong pivot imoi dunno to me even though united were a man down he was working really hard to win the ball back and being a real nuisance(sp?)... i thought he did very well.. could def see him in out pivot and working really well with the likes of mata oscar hazard and de bruyne who seems to be the forgotten man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,188 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 ball dictator he maybe but his defensive abilities raise question marks. in a team with Mata Oscar Hazard shying away from defensive duties we need strong pivot imoi dunno to me even though united were a man down he was working really hard to win the ball back and being a real nuisance(sp?)... i thought he did very well.. could def see him in out pivot and working really well with the likes of mata oscar hazard and de bruyne who seems to be the forgotten manThis. He chased, harried and dictated brilliantly. bluesman2610 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 i dunno to me even though united were a man down he was working really hard to win the ball back and being a real nuisance(sp?)... i thought he did very well.. could def see him in out pivot and working really well with the likes of mata oscar hazard and de bruyne who seems to be the forgotten manhe can harry around but his ball winning ability isn't great. no doubt he'd walk into our pivot and improve it. just that if we can get someone who operated deeper, we'll get better defensive securitymeanwhile de Bruyne has been dire with his defending at Werder this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,423 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 he can harry around but his ball winning ability isn't great. no doubt he'd walk into our pivot and improve it. just that if we can get someone who operated deeper, we'll get better defensive securitymeanwhile de Bruyne has been dire with his defending at Werder this season.most teams that play double pivot have one true ball winner and one distributor.. now the distributor does add additional benefits if he too can win back possession but that is not his main function.. in respect to luka he is pretty decent ball winner maybe not of the same mold as a moutinho or alonso but would be more than efficient as he has a great engine and can do a lot of pressing...ppl seem to think that defending is a few players in the team but actually its a unit everyone has a part to play to be a successful defending side we need more two way players like in the mourinho era...and on de bruyne maybe you misunderstood me i was placing him in the attacking 3 not in the pivot..i too agree with you his defending does need a lot of work if he will work in our pivot if we so choose to play that style.. i still believe we play our best football in a 4-3-3 a la newcastle game beginning of the season... Styles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 most teams that play double pivot have one true ball winner and one distributor.. now the distributor does add additional benefits if he too can win back possession but that is not his main function.. in respect to luka he is pretty decent ball winner maybe not of the same mold as a moutinho or alonso but would be more than efficient as he has a great engine and can do a lot of pressing...ppl seem to think that defending is a few players in the team but actually its a unit everyone has a part to play to be a successful defending side we need more two way players like in the mourinho era...and on de bruyne maybe you misunderstood me i was placing him in the attacking 3 not in the pivot..i too agree with you his defending does need a lot of work if he will work in our pivot if we so choose to play that style.. i still believe we play our best football in a 4-3-3 a la newcastle game beginning of the season...It's why somebody like Mata is such a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I said it as a half-joke a few months ago, but again and more serious now - why not sign Luka and Alex Song..? Alex Song is overrated for his season last year with Arsenal, but if you really look into his skill-set, I think if we were more flexible with our tactics, those 2 would create the best midfield pairing in the Premier League. I also feel that Mikel would flourish with either Song/Modric beside him, but heh, chances of this happening are slim, aren't they? I still don't believe Modric was anything near the reported £40m Tottenham wanted from us for him, but if we were to get him now for £25m from Madrid I wouldn't complain. The Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I said it as a half-joke a few months ago, but again and more serious now - why not sign Luka and Alex Song..? Alex Song is overrated for his season last year with Arsenal, but if you really look into his skill-set, I think if we were more flexible with our tactics, those 2 would create the best midfield pairing in the Premier League. I also feel that Mikel would flourish with either Song/Modric beside him, but heh, chances of this happening are slim, aren't they? I still don't believe Modric was anything near the reported £40m Tottenham wanted from us for him, but if we were to get him now for £25m from Madrid I wouldn't complain.Why would Madrid sell Modric for 25m after paying 33m this season? Also, the day Barça sell us a player, the world will be close to ending.In a dream world, I agree. Get them both....However, it will be much easier to just buy Gonalons/Capoue and Moutinho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,423 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 It's why somebody like Mata is such a liability.in a sense yes but look at some of the great teams to win champions league milan in particular with players like kaka and pirlo who do not defend but are/were pure class going forward... you can get away with one or two players who are focused on attack first but they too still have a part to play in team defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Why would Madrid sell Modric for 25m after paying 33m this season?Because their board is stupid like ours And we could include someone like Essien in the deal. That, plus the fact that hardly any other clubs will come along with that sort of money for him and he's considered a flop so far in Madrid - so they may want to get rid of him since he won't be starting ahead of Alonso/Ozil like originally considered. bluesman2610 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,423 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Why would Madrid sell Modric for 25m after paying 33m this season?hes not the right fit for that team and you so not spend 33m on a player to sit on the bench..unless you are city madrid chelsea and psg... where as here he as some have put it would walk right into the pivot and would be a pretty damn good replacement for the lengend super frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,423 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Because their board is stupid like ours And we could include someone like Essien in the deal. That, plus the fact that hardly any other clubs will come along with that sort of money for him and he's considered a flop so far in Madrid - so they may want to get rid of him since he won't be starting ahead of Alonso/Ozil like originally considered. beat me to my exact point lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Because their board is stupid like ours And we could include someone like Essien in the deal. That, plus the fact that hardly any other clubs will come along with that sort of money for him and he's considered a flop so far in Madrid - so they may want to get rid of him since he won't be starting ahead of Alonso/Ozil like originally considered. hes not the right fit for that team and you so not spend 33m on a player to sit on the bench..unless you are city madrid chelsea and psg... where as here he as some have put it would walk right into the pivot and would be a pretty damn good replacement for the lengend super frankKaka breaks all your line of thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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