Superblue 6,372 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, killer1257 said: No, he once said that he would not come to Chelsea because he does not want to ruin his career. That says a lot of a former Chelsea youth coach and assistant of the first team. He said Chelsea does not give managers time, they give managers a lot of money instead. Also, he pointed out that by sacking every coach like Chelsea does on a regular basis, the bigger weaknesses can't be fixed and every manager gets the same flawed squad to work with. True. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk He said this on a radio interview when I believe he was still Swansea manager. A lot of time has passed since this. I think whilst the board are still demanding, they don't appear to be as ruthless as they once were and he himself has also experienced managing at the top end with Liverpool and how quick things can change (sacked within a season of nearly winning the title). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,231 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, ZaynChelsea said: If we focus on managers who are in charge of a club atm, there is no better option than HASENHÜTTL. Amazing style of play, proven youth developer, could get our Germans firing, turned around one of the biggest lows of PL history, overachieving massively with his team and PL proven. What more do you want from a manager? I would be oki with him if we cant get my first 3 choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,622 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, killer1257 said: But most are like Sarri, who just think short term rather then long term well of course when they know they will get sacked after max two seasons. i cant see nagelsmann joining mid-season. same with hasenhuttl and rodgers. when was the last time a manager changing team in mid-season and in the same divison...im terrible with memory. tuchel seems like the most obvious choice. sheva did a good job with ukraine nt...and is a good friend with abramovich killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Jason said: Probably a bullshit article but as interim coach till the summer, why not? Shevchenko has a great relationship with Abramovich and as far as I know he's got the Ukraine NT playing some nice football, especially during the Euro2020 qualifiers where they finished top of their group ahead of Portugal. He's always talked fondly of his time at the club even though he flopped badly and like it says in the article even his son plays in the Chelsea academy. Hadn't even considered this possibility but could be something worth thinking about. The likes of Tuchel, Allegri etc. won't accept an interim role so if the club are planning to wait for better options till the summer there aren't many top candidates available. If Shevchenko is ever planning to make the step to club management at some point, then a job like this on an interim basis could be a good starting point after four years in national team management. Another interim coach candidate could be Steve Holland, if he can be acquired from Southgate's setup. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jype said: it says in the article even his son plays in the Chelsea academy. Do we really need another manager that will play his relative in the starting 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Do we really need another manager that will play his relative in the starting 11 The kid is 14 years old, he couldn't play even if his dad wanted to. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, Jype said: Probably a bullshit article but as interim coach till the summer, why not? Shevchenko has a great relationship with Abramovich and as far as I know he's got the Ukraine NT playing some nice football, especially during the Euro2020 qualifiers where they finished top of their group ahead of Portugal. He's always talked fondly of his time at the club even though he flopped badly and like it says in the article even his son plays in the Chelsea academy. Hadn't even considered this possibility but could be something worth thinking about. The likes of Tuchel, Allegri etc. won't accept an interim role so if the club are planning to wait for better options till the summer there aren't many top candidates available. If Shevchenko is ever planning to make the step to club management at some point, then a job like this on an interim basis could be a good starting point after four years in national team management. Another interim coach candidate could be Steve Holland, if he can be acquired from Southgate's setup. We already went with an unknown quantity in Lampard to begin with and it's not working too well. Not sure if it's wise to hire another unknown quantity, even if it's only on an interim basis. Supermonkey92 and Azul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pizy 18,957 Posted January 4, 2021 Popular Post! Share Posted January 4, 2021 No more sentimental appointments, please. Highly competent, highly experienced, respects coach only. kellzfresh, 0007, 11Drogba and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Jason said: We already went with an unknown quantity in Lampard to begin with and it's not working too well. Not sure if it's wise to hire another unknown quantity, even if it's only an interim basis. Maybe, but new manager bounce is still a thing that exists. If things get stale under current management, it usually helps just to make the change even if it's only for a breath of fresh air and a few new ideas in the short term. Of course I wouldn't sack Lampard just to get someone like Shevchenko in immediately but if Lampard gets some more time to turn things around and it doesn't work out, no proper manager will take the job just for the sake of 2-3 months if appointed in February or March and that's where a coach like Sheva could come in and try to scrape a European spot in whatever time is left in the season before appointing a more permanent manager in the summer. In those kind of situations the interim coach is typically someone who's more used to an assistant role with very little managerial experience so a full-time national team manager would fit the bill quite nicely if it comes to that. But if Lampard is sacked in the next couple of weeks there are probably better and more experienced options to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 points of the top is nothing. Bring Allegri and win the title. Simple as that. And if he wins the title with unconvincing football sack him in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: 7 points of the top is nothing. Bring Allegri and win the title. Simple as that. And if he wins the title with unconvincing football sack him in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 27 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: 7 points of the top is nothing. Bring Allegri and win the title. Simple as that. And if he wins the title with unconvincing football sack him in the summer. Sack someone after winning a title? Fucking hell this is a bit daft. I hope its sarcasm because no way a top coach is coming here on peanuts where that would he financially possible also. Or are you on FIFA/PES/pc game mode? If he can win a title being 7 points off top up against Klopp, Jose, Pep and whoever else why would you sack him 🤣? Jesus christ. Would that not just be an ever bigger indication of his capabilities and his ability to get his approach over to the team pretty effectively? l dont get what you mean by unconvincing football either, he won Serie A with Milan and they played some decent stuff. Juventus played some decent stuff (and many said Allegri improved Juventus after Conte after Conte famously made the quote regarding transfers before leaving while instantly improving upon his European record also...) while playing various different formations and making changes in the spine of their team. People seem to have this perception hes Sam Allardyce or Tony Pulis is in an Armani suit by the looks of this forum. Hes not. Anything with this impression of him is, to put it bluntly, clueless. He didnt get Juventus to a CL final playing unconvincing football. He didn’t win however many Serie As throughout his career playing unconvincing football/tactics. I think the fact hes been out of the game for a year and a half has given people this impression he will only be successful in Italy or his style is only useful in Serie A or whatever... which I am sure people probably thought about Conte before he came here, won the PL in a season where his approach basically reintroduced English football to playing with back 3s to the point now so many teams still use this systems more than they had in the last 10 years. Yet bet when he immediately left Juventus you’d have taken him in a heartbeat prior to Franks appointment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,231 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Hasenhüttl has that fire in the belly kellzfresh and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I'm not going to lie...if we appoint Hasenhüttl I'll be gassed. That's a coach I'll back fully.Because?First time in your life you back a coach? Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Jype said: Maybe, but new manager bounce is still a thing that exists. If things get stale under current management, it usually helps just to make the change even if it's only for a breath of fresh air and a few new ideas in the short term. Of course I wouldn't sack Lampard just to get someone like Shevchenko in immediately but if Lampard gets some more time to turn things around and it doesn't work out, no proper manager will take the job just for the sake of 2-3 months if appointed in February or March and that's where a coach like Sheva could come in and try to scrape a European spot in whatever time is left in the season before appointing a more permanent manager in the summer. In those kind of situations the interim coach is typically someone who's more used to an assistant role with very little managerial experience so a full-time national team manager would fit the bill quite nicely if it comes to that. But if Lampard is sacked in the next couple of weeks there are probably better and more experienced options to consider. If we are gonna go for the new manager bounce, at least maybe hire someone better than Shevchenko? Someone maybe with more experience or at least knows the league as a manager? bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Mana said: Because Hasenhüttl's teams play good attacking football. PL proven. Has actual experience. He has made Southampton a club fearful. Lampard's Chelsea would quiver to Southampton, that's reality I'm afraid. No, not my first time??? But it will be for years though. You will support Hasenhuttl for years? How sure are you that you're not gonna turn against him after a run of bad results? Would you have kept him after that 9-0 loss to Leicester had you been a Southampton fan? bigbluewillie, killer1257, Strike and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANILA 290 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Don't really understand why we're talking about Hasenhüttl - no chance he will leave his team mid season (any manager for that matter unless they're managing a small club) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaynChelsea 423 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, DANILA said: Don't really understand why we're talking about Hasenhüttl - no chance he will leave his team mid season (any manager for that matter unless they're managing a small club) Sorry, I introduced him here in a very strong manner. We are Chelsea - we have a remarkable pull towards a coach of Southampton. It‘s not impossible that he comes to us - especially as someone who loves to work with youngsters, Furthermore, Hasenhüttl already trained Werner at Leipzig. So why not a reunion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,957 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, DANILA said: Don't really understand why we're talking about Hasenhüttl - no chance he will leave his team mid season (any manager for that matter unless they're managing a small club) I mean, Southampton are a small club. But yeah, no chance he jumps ship midseason. Though if we were to sack Frank, offer him the job, and he declines he may not get another chance at a truly massive club again any time soon. As well as Southampton are doing the chance to manage Chelsea with the crazy talent we have to work with has to be tempting. He would probably turn into a villain instantly if he left now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,622 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 he will surely get another chance at a bigger club if he continues like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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