Chelsea 0-2 Aston Villa

[cosmicway 1,261]

George Orwell's dystopian world of the future:

- big brother
- permanent Tory government
- ration books
- Graham Potter Chelsea manager

[OneMoSalah 8,616]

One manager today looked like he was managing an elite level club. And it wasn’t ours. Pathetic.

[Reddish-Blue 2,231]

4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Fucking atrocious - love Kova and Chilwell but couldnt hit a barn door today. We had another No 8 who would have had a hatrick today and buried all 3 chances. So fucking annoying that could see this coming a mile off. Every Prem team thinks they can fuck Chelsea now, they can, and they're loving it

Let's see how many Liverpool can put past us in the next game.   They got 7 against United, wonder if they'll be motivated enough to repeat it. 

[Muzchap 8,966]

10 hours ago, cosmicway said:

George Orwell's dystopian world of the future:

- big brother
- permanent Tory government
- ration books
- Graham Potter Chelsea manager

I'm more concerned about a Labour Govt, although to be fair, Keir fucking Starmer could have picked a better starting 11 than Potter...

[cosmicway 1,261]

6 minutes ago, Muzchap said:

I'm more concerned about a Labour Govt, although to be fair, Keir fucking Starmer could have picked a better starting 11 than Potter...

Even Mogg.

[lucio 5,418]

9 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Let's see how many Liverpool can put past us in the next game.   They got 7 against United, wonder if they'll be motivated enough to repeat it. 

If it's enough to get rid of this asshat then I won't even care 

[Laylabelle 9,304]

55 minutes ago, lucio said:

If it's enough to get rid of this asshat then I won't even care 

It won't...if none of these results having given him the push then what's another bad loss? 

Be end of the season..or be surprised maybe and they will...

[Muzchap 8,966]

16 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

It won't...if none of these results having given him the push then what's another bad loss? 

Be end of the season..or be surprised maybe and they will...

The only motivation will be money I suspect, the brand value is plummeting. This hurts him and his investors. 

I love how US propaganda paints them as excellent at everything, then when you deal with then you realise it's smoke and mirrors.

You don't tie you first ever appointment into £100million handcuffs. It's just poor poor business. 

Whatever people thought of Roman, he was shrewd and took no shit. I know who I rate as the better businessman. 

[Vesper 27,384]

20 hours ago, Pizy said:

There’s a world class back 3 coach sitting on the market right now in Conte who has dreamed of having an owner who will match his ambitions. We have a squad (minus the striker currently) tailor made for Conte. We’ve got world class wingbacks, some world class midfielders, and pace to burn with multiple attackers. Give him this summer window to get 2-3 handpicked players in and we will challenge for every trophy.

If not him get Naglesmann before Spuds do. 

I normally do not disagree with you, but Conte is poison after his inevitable honeymoon period

Edited April 2, 2023 by Vesper

[Vesper 27,384]

20 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Think he's referring to Potter's assistant 

ah yes, Billy Reid

lol, he IS a fat dwarf

[Tomo 21,685]

18 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I normally do not disagree with you, but Conte is poison after his inevitable honeymoon period

Honestly baffles me how anyone could think rehiring that maniac is a good idea.

[mkh 82]

I am simply stunned that we still haven't heard anything about Potter's dismissal.

He just keeps getting away with it and is allowed to carry on!

Look at Potter's assistants in the games, he asks them for advice but all they get from Reid Saltor and Hamberg are clueless facial expressions and mouth wraps instead of helping, they have absolutely no idea.

Fire this clueless coach and his whole staff.

[coolhead23 1,146]

Except for the tempo of the game there was nothing good to write for us. Missing out easy chances, circling around the final third, no much penetration, wrong personals ... sums it up ... yes, same old speech in the post match. Another similar day in the life of Chelsea's fan this season. 

BTW is David Fofana with us or is injured or on loan ... havent heard anything about him. 

[Vesper 27,384]

9 hours ago, Muzchap said:

I'm more concerned about a Labour Govt, although to be fair, Keir fucking Starmer could have picked a better starting 11 than Potter...

Labour in any form is vastly better than the oligarch-driven, freebooting pirate Tories (and their even more extreme and despicable Nigel Farage type of cousins)

Sorry but I will never be down with destruction of the welfare state and massive wealth extraction/transfer from the broad base up to the narrow top of the pyramidion, all underpinned with an appeal to xenophobia, classism, and racism (bother overt and covert).

The Lib Dems can sod off too, as they for years propped up the odious austerity-ghoul driven agenda of the feckless Cameron (and also campaigned on a Brexit style referendum).

 

The Lib Dems are deeply stained by austerity. Don’t trust them

With a new leader the party is enjoying a resurgence, but its support for the Tories in coalition can’t be forgotten so easily
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/23/lib-dems-stained-austerity-trust-tories

The Liberal Democrats are back, or so we’re told, with Jo Swinson’s leadership victory being pitched as the rebirth of the party. The unique conditions of Brexit have given the Lib Dems not only a reason to exist but the opportunity to detoxify their brand after their fatal coalition with the Conservatives, and to cast themselves as a reforming, progressive party in troubled times.

And yet remarkably little has changed since the days when Nick Clegg stood laughing in the Downing Street rose garden next to David Cameron as he signed Britain up to years of sweeping public spending cuts. When asked throughout this summer’s leadership campaign, Swinson (and her opponent, Ed Davey) consistently defended her party’s role in austerity measures. In an interview with Channel 4 News, Swinson said she had no regrets about the coalition, stating it was the right move “to get our country back on track”. This is despite the fact it has been shown that austerity shrunk the British economy by £100bn, and has even been linked to 130,000 preventable deaths. Swinson acknowledged “there were policies we let through [in coalition] that we shouldn’t have done”, naming the bedroom tax, but remained unrepentant on a whole host of others.

Instead, Swinson repeatedly claims credit for the Lib Dems being a moderating influence on the Tories. They may well have helped to rein in the Conservatives on some things (the party is said to have forced George Osborne to temporarily shelve child tax credit cuts) but this fundamentally misses the point: the Lib Dems weren’t coerced into the partnership, they voluntarily chose it, and as such were a reason every Tory cut that was passed was possible.

Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson says the party was a moderating influence on the Tories. Photograph: Hannah McKay/Reuters

This isn’t about holding grudges or some sort of ideological purity. Political parties naturally evolve depending on the political times, and progress in policy positions should be credited. It was four years ago this week that the Labour party adopted its abysmal abstention strategy for key “welfare reform”, but the party has since wrestled internally to have the strong anti-austerity message it holds today, winning back support in the process.

The same cannot be said for the Lib Dems. This is a party that as recently as last year spoke of sacrificing some of the poorest people in society to benefit sanctions in exchange for a 5p tax on plastic bags while in coalition. Nor are their MPs against forming a pact with the Tories again, with Swinson simply ruling out joining forces with Boris Johnson or any Brexiteer.

Swinson, for her part, could hardly be called a fully progressive figure. As employment minister, she reversed workers’ rights by introducing charges of up to £1,200 for the privilege of attending an employment tribunal (a move later ruled unlawful by the supreme court) and even considered cutting the minimum wage, all at a time when workers faced an unprecedented squeeze.

There is a sense in some circles that disabled people and working-class families should “get over it”; that those who can’t summon optimism for the revived Lib Dems are too tribal, irrational, or stuck in the past. But this insultingly dismisses the scale of suffering austerity has caused – typically by commentators who have never experienced the pain themselves – and recasts it as a historical slight. Go to your closed local Sure Start centre or try to get your elderly mother a social care package and this all seems ever-present news.

Similarly, it’s often inferred that compared with Brexit, cuts to services are insignificant. The danger of no-deal Brexit is real and this will hit the poorest hardest. But the idea that this is enough to revive the Lib Dems – and that all else should somehow be forgotten – is a symptom of a political discourse that too often suggests nothing but Brexit matters. Some voters may find it easier to switch back to the Lib Dems, but large numbers of disabled and low-income families will find it considerably harder to trust them ever again. If you’re queueing in your wheelchair at a food bank because the coalition took your disability benefits, it’s unlikely you’ll be tempted to the yellow fold, even by the promise of a second EU referendum.

Besides, the two issues are linked. While credit should be given to the party leading the charge against Brexit, there is irony in the Lib Dem position. After all, savage cuts to services and living standards helped create the conditions for the leave vote in the first place. Indeed, it feels a bit rich to see a party that helped heap austerity on to struggling families now leading concern for the country over Brexit. For many disabled and poor people, years of Lib Dem-enabled cuts mean hardship is already here. Austerity has harmed millions of people in Britain, and continues to wreck lives. It is not too much to ask that the politicians who administered it learn lessons before their rehabilitation begins. As it stands, the rebirthed Lib Dems are still deeply stained.

[cosmicway 1,261]

59 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Labour in any form is vastly better than the oligarch-driven, freebooting pirate Tories (and their even more extreme and despicable Nigel Farage type of cousins)

Sorry but I will never be down with destruction of the welfare state and massive wealth extraction/transfer from the broad base up to the narrow top of the pyramidion, all underpinned with an appeal to xenophobia, classism, and racism (bother overt and covert).

The Lib Dems can sod off too, as they for years propped up the odious austerity-ghoul driven agenda of the feckless Cameron (and also campaigned on a Brexit style referendum).

 

The Lib Dems are deeply stained by austerity. Don’t trust them

With a new leader the party is enjoying a resurgence, but its support for the Tories in coalition can’t be forgotten so easily
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/23/lib-dems-stained-austerity-trust-tories

The Liberal Democrats are back, or so we’re told, with Jo Swinson’s leadership victory being pitched as the rebirth of the party. The unique conditions of Brexit have given the Lib Dems not only a reason to exist but the opportunity to detoxify their brand after their fatal coalition with the Conservatives, and to cast themselves as a reforming, progressive party in troubled times.

And yet remarkably little has changed since the days when Nick Clegg stood laughing in the Downing Street rose garden next to David Cameron as he signed Britain up to years of sweeping public spending cuts. When asked throughout this summer’s leadership campaign, Swinson (and her opponent, Ed Davey) consistently defended her party’s role in austerity measures. In an interview with Channel 4 News, Swinson said she had no regrets about the coalition, stating it was the right move “to get our country back on track”. This is despite the fact it has been shown that austerity shrunk the British economy by £100bn, and has even been linked to 130,000 preventable deaths. Swinson acknowledged “there were policies we let through [in coalition] that we shouldn’t have done”, naming the bedroom tax, but remained unrepentant on a whole host of others.

Instead, Swinson repeatedly claims credit for the Lib Dems being a moderating influence on the Tories. They may well have helped to rein in the Conservatives on some things (the party is said to have forced George Osborne to temporarily shelve child tax credit cuts) but this fundamentally misses the point: the Lib Dems weren’t coerced into the partnership, they voluntarily chose it, and as such were a reason every Tory cut that was passed was possible.

Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson says the party was a moderating influence on the Tories. Photograph: Hannah McKay/Reuters

This isn’t about holding grudges or some sort of ideological purity. Political parties naturally evolve depending on the political times, and progress in policy positions should be credited. It was four years ago this week that the Labour party adopted its abysmal abstention strategy for key “welfare reform”, but the party has since wrestled internally to have the strong anti-austerity message it holds today, winning back support in the process.

The same cannot be said for the Lib Dems. This is a party that as recently as last year spoke of sacrificing some of the poorest people in society to benefit sanctions in exchange for a 5p tax on plastic bags while in coalition. Nor are their MPs against forming a pact with the Tories again, with Swinson simply ruling out joining forces with Boris Johnson or any Brexiteer.

Swinson, for her part, could hardly be called a fully progressive figure. As employment minister, she reversed workers’ rights by introducing charges of up to £1,200 for the privilege of attending an employment tribunal (a move later ruled unlawful by the supreme court) and even considered cutting the minimum wage, all at a time when workers faced an unprecedented squeeze.

There is a sense in some circles that disabled people and working-class families should “get over it”; that those who can’t summon optimism for the revived Lib Dems are too tribal, irrational, or stuck in the past. But this insultingly dismisses the scale of suffering austerity has caused – typically by commentators who have never experienced the pain themselves – and recasts it as a historical slight. Go to your closed local Sure Start centre or try to get your elderly mother a social care package and this all seems ever-present news.

Similarly, it’s often inferred that compared with Brexit, cuts to services are insignificant. The danger of no-deal Brexit is real and this will hit the poorest hardest. But the idea that this is enough to revive the Lib Dems – and that all else should somehow be forgotten – is a symptom of a political discourse that too often suggests nothing but Brexit matters. Some voters may find it easier to switch back to the Lib Dems, but large numbers of disabled and low-income families will find it considerably harder to trust them ever again. If you’re queueing in your wheelchair at a food bank because the coalition took your disability benefits, it’s unlikely you’ll be tempted to the yellow fold, even by the promise of a second EU referendum.

Besides, the two issues are linked. While credit should be given to the party leading the charge against Brexit, there is irony in the Lib Dem position. After all, savage cuts to services and living standards helped create the conditions for the leave vote in the first place. Indeed, it feels a bit rich to see a party that helped heap austerity on to struggling families now leading concern for the country over Brexit. For many disabled and poor people, years of Lib Dem-enabled cuts mean hardship is already here. Austerity has harmed millions of people in Britain, and continues to wreck lives. It is not too much to ask that the politicians who administered it learn lessons before their rehabilitation begins. As it stands, the rebirthed Lib Dems are still deeply stained.

This is not the time nor the place to debate the relative merits of libs and labs.
In Greece the all time democratic government of the people is considered to be the government of George Papandreou, 1963-65.
But those of us who are old hands also remember it was the time of Panathinaikos A.O. biggest steals. Goals scored with the hand, referees, the notorious "suitcases" ...
The confused people believe that Panathinaikos were the pet team of the military junta of 1967-74 and while this may be so to a certain extent, their biggest scandals
were in the early sixties, not the junta period.

Edited April 2, 2023 by cosmicway

[bigbluewillie 1,808]

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[Special Juan 27,106]

On 01/04/2023 at 18:01, YorkshireBlue said:

Mudryk has absolutely no confidence at all.

Not surprising, wanted his dream move to Arsenal, we steam in and steal him, he looked sick as fuck, rocked up at Chelsea, playing under Potter and now looks like a grass roots winger

[lucio 5,418]

19 hours ago, Vesper said:

ah yes, Billy Reid

lol, he IS a fat dwarf

can't find any info on his height, looks barely 5ft