Brighton 4-1 Chelsea

[Laylabelle 9,535]

One thing is we have a game in hand over Spurs and Newcastle. But depending when we play it...gap could be bigger or smaller who knows. Hopefully the 2nd!

[milka 3,393]

Every season for us since 2017 is transitional . I'm tired of watching the same humiliation every season and a difference of 20+ points to the first 2 teams .

It is clear that it takes time, but we have been in some kind of vicious circle for 5 years.

It is not moral people like  Solly March , Pascal Gros and Lallana to humiliate you 

Potter is either naive or he really  just believes that Pulisic will become a  wing-back  like Trossard or Cucurella will become a solid defender in a back three.

Next game vs Arsenal  - Silva DM ,  Sterling LB , Kovacic ST . 

 

Edited October 29, 2022 by milka

[Blue Armour 4,448]

I missed this game entirely (for some reason thought that the match started 2 hours later than it did), but in hindsight, I'm glad that I did.

I don't even want to look at the highlights.

But looking at the starting lineup can I say that we shot ourselves in the foot by going crazy with the fullbacks? Entrusting both Pulisic and Sterling with defensive duties at the same time is bonkers, especially with no solid DMF.

If anyone could give a short summary, would really appreciate it. Cheers!

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

1 hour ago, Blue Armour said:

I missed this game entirely (for some reason thought that the match started 2 hours later than it did), but in hindsight, I'm glad that I did.

I don't even want to look at the highlights.

But looking at the starting lineup can I say that we shot ourselves in the foot by going crazy with the fullbacks? Entrusting both Pulisic and Sterling with defensive duties at the same time is bonkers, especially with no solid DMF.

If anyone could give a short summary, would really appreciate it. Cheers!

• Without Reece, we look horrible
• We have zero defensive options available to rotate (No KK, Fofana or Reece)
• Cucurella has been useless for a few games now
• Sterling is useless right now, feels like selling Werner was actually a mistake
• Brighton exploited us perfectly, they've been building for a few games, showed they were in for a fight against City and they just continued their good form taking full advantage of a makeshift lineup by Potter

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The root of every issue in this team points straight back to the midfield. 
 

Im at a point genuinely just to sell them all. Even Kovacic. All worthless. 

We get a midfielder on deadline day who is known for his box to box ability and physicality and he's just left on the bench game after game.  

RLC is the definition of average, he'll put in a 1 or 2 good performances as required but in reality, he should of been sold in the summer to Palace. 

[Da Herbsman 21]

A terrible performance. Brighton looked twice as quick to every ball as our players. They might have won the game purely on their intensity alone. No idea why GP did not work this out. 

That said, GP has a difficult job in hand. I could count more than 2 players in that lineup that are really top quality, and this is after we've spent close to be a billion these past 5 season. 

[Strike 7,492]

13 hours ago, Tomo said:

Ever since the Sarri season there's been the won't make top 4 sweeping statements after a bad result and/or performance and every time we've made it alongside atleast one cup final.

 

I'm not convinced this time. The competition is much more this year. City will clock their usual 85+ points tally. Arsenal, Newcastle, United, Spurs (playing rubbish) and Liverpool (bad form but the best team of the lot) there too. Only January midfield surgery can save this season

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

8 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

We get a midfielder on deadline day who is known for his box to box ability and physicality and he's just left on the bench game after game.

I think what @Vesper said, or at least implied, about Zakaria is correct. It seems that, for whatever reason, the club want shot of him in January and seem to be aware that Juve will not voluntarily agree to cancel the loan halfway through the season. One way out of this is that Juve can secure an alternative loan club for Denis after the world cup. If that's the scenario, then the two club per-season rule means we cannot play him 'even for one minute' as this would kill any chance of another loan. Another possible scenario is that there is an automatic break in the agreement if Denis does not play.

This would still leave the mystery of why in that case does Denis keep being selected to the bench. Perhaps it's a signal that there is nothing wrong with him physically. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

39 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think what @Vesper said, or at least implied, about Zakaria is correct. It seems that, for whatever reason, the club want shot of him in January and seem to be aware that Juve will not voluntarily agree to cancel the loan halfway through the season. One way out of this is that Juve can secure an alternative loan club for Denis after the world cup. If that's the scenario, then the two club per-season rule means we cannot play him 'even for one minute' as this would kill any chance of another loan. Another possible scenario is that there is an automatic break in the agreement if Denis does not play.

This would still leave the mystery of why in that case does Denis keep being selected to the bench. Perhaps it's a signal that there is nothing wrong with him physically. 

The bigger question is, does that mean that the club has a replacement midfielder lined up for January?  
The whole midfield situation is a mess, Kante not back till February and his contract is expiring....Jorginho's contract is expiring as well and we basically got a midfielder in for no reason other than 'cover' on deadline day. 

Hopefully Potter & Boehly have a solid plan in place for our midfield as we are a few months away from having Kovacic and RLC as the only midfielders under contract...which is quite alarming!   

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

17 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Project as it may, this high wingback as wingers approach is on par with AVBs defensive high line. 
 

Shocking management. 

World cup is also a massive problem, the amount of games played and you can tell the players are scared to death of getting injured. Why the fuck a winter world cup was authorized is beyond me.

[Laylabelle 9,535]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

I'm not convinced this time. The competition is much more this year. City will clock their usual 85+ points tally. Arsenal, Newcastle, United, Spurs (playing rubbish) and Liverpool (bad form but the best team of the lot) there too. Only January midfield surgery can save this season

Exactly and there is a long way to go but we're hardly putting on a performance week in week out that's convincing. That's what's worrying and other teams do look strong still. Lucky for us Liverpool have dropped points too and others...that and we still haven't got into double figures goal difference wise. Nearer to 0 again..

[Vesper 30,201]

3 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

we are a few months away from having Kovacic and RLC as the only midfielders under contract...which is quite alarming!   

Conor Gallagher
Carney Chukwuemeka
Mason Mount 

plus

 
Cesare Casadei    
Harvey Vale
 

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Kovacic and Ruben are the same player. 

Gallagher, Mount, and Havertz offer the same thing. 

 

It's no wonder we are getting torn to bits. We have too many similar players on the pitch. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,277]

28 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Kovacic and Ruben are the same player. 

Gallagher, Mount, and Havertz offer the same thing. 

 

It's no wonder we are getting torn to bits. We have too many similar players on the pitch. 

Gallagher and havertz are the same player? Please explain.

[manpe 10,861]

22 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I wouldn't really call it humiliating, Brighton are a good team, our problem isn't the manager it's the squad or midfield is laughable and our 2 new CBs have injury's and so does our RWB and our LWB is still recovering from his injury, any 2 can sit here and blame potter and even TT but the fact is TT had the chance to fix that midfield on the summer and didn't, now potter is paying that price. I understand why some of you are angry but this is Todd and potters first season after the dramatics of last season, u could change manager 5 times and it doesn't matter that midfield is not good enough 433 343 352 442 doesn't matter the midfield isn't good enough, I fear this season will be a long road for some of you, and the ones saying potter out, u really need to change your attitude because that sorta behaviour is the reason this club is fucked and has a squad of shite, you are all quick to bang on about Liverpool and man city, but quick to forget they where both projects, you guys won't even give projects a chance, you just expect miracles.

We have been a project (or in "transition", whatever you call it) since I don't know when, but many years have passed where the same things have been said. In that case our project management is horrible as we're only getting worse. Over the years there have been very few signs that we should be trusting or having faith in said "project". A project where we still sign past it old players as stop-gaps.
 

19 hours ago, milka said:

Every season for us since 2017 is transitional . I'm tired of watching the same humiliation every season and a difference of 20+ points to the first 2 teams .

It is clear that it takes time, but we have been in some kind of vicious circle for 5 years.

It is not moral people like  Solly March , Pascal Gros and Lallana to humiliate you 

Potter is either naive or he really  just believes that Pulisic will become a  wing-back  like Trossard or Cucurella will become a solid defender in a back three.

Next game vs Arsenal  - Silva DM ,  Sterling LB , Kovacic ST . 

 

The problem here is that we never went for a cover RWB in the summer. Azpi is not it if even fucking Pulisic or RLC plays ahead of him there. We totally neglected RWB in favour of spunking €65mill on Cucurella and €56mill on Sterling, who is now playing LWB despite Chilwell and Cucu being fit 😂. This situation was always going to happen because it is known that our WBs are prone to injury and one can't blame them for that, it is the most physically demanding position. Chilwell will also get injured during the season, mark my words... but at least there we have Cucurella to cover for him, an actual wing-back, so we won't miss him as much as we are missing Reece. You become a one-man team when you don't have adequate cover for that one man.

 

6 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think what @Vesper said, or at least implied, about Zakaria is correct. It seems that, for whatever reason, the club want shot of him in January and seem to be aware that Juve will not voluntarily agree to cancel the loan halfway through the season. One way out of this is that Juve can secure an alternative loan club for Denis after the world cup. If that's the scenario, then the two club per-season rule means we cannot play him 'even for one minute' as this would kill any chance of another loan. Another possible scenario is that there is an automatic break in the agreement if Denis does not play.

This would still leave the mystery of why in that case does Denis keep being selected to the bench. Perhaps it's a signal that there is nothing wrong with him physically. 

Why the FUCK did we even loan Zakaria? Just goes to show how clueless Boehly and co. actually were during the summer. For example, it's been said by trustworthy journalists that Boehly had decided to get rid of Tuchel long before he actually did. THEN WHY THE FUCK WAIT UNTIL THE SEASON'S BEGUN AND TRANSFER WINDOW IS CLOSED?! Does he think it's easy for a new manager to just come in mid-season and start fucking shit up? Boehly, Eghbali and that bunch are fucking idiots. If they don't start keeping away from footballing matters soon then we are fucked.
 

4 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

World cup is also a massive problem, the amount of games played and you can tell the players are scared to death of getting injured. Why the fuck a winter world cup was authorized is beyond me.

Because of corruption.

Edited October 30, 2022 by manpe

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

21 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Gallagher and havertz are the same player? Please explain.

In the sense they both like to occupy that #10 role. Havertz likes dropping to midfield from the ST position whereas Gallagher likes to advance high up from the #8 position. Add Mount in the mix and you have three players trying to perform the same duties or they are completely out of position. 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

And now 10 behind Arsenal...

[DDA 9,941]

We haven't been right since pre-season. Two good pperformances vs Spurs and AC Milan in the first game. 

That's it.

Everything has been nothing more than a circus. 

GP has a big job on his hands. Will he survive!? I hope so.

[Laylabelle 9,535]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

We haven't been right since pre-season. Two good pperformances vs Spurs and AC Milan in the first game. 

That's it.

Everything has been nothing more than a circus. 

GP has a big job on his hands. Will he survive!? I hope so.

Yeahhh pre season was just a sign of things to come. That went bad and the season hasn't got going really. Kinda lucky other teams near are also struggling a little.

Hopefully.. because if not it somehow feels a bit of a waste of time appointing him if he only gets fired at the end.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

The whole "oH itS jUsT pReAsON" argument is a saving face by people in denial. Your eyes don't lie and when you see reoccurring issues within the team and players, "It's Just Preseason" becomes incredibly invalid. 

Edited October 30, 2022 by MoroccanBlue