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22 hours ago, The Chels said:

I fear this will be the case and we'll have been lumbered with yet another manager who comes from the school of thought that prioritises "balls, attitude, fighters" and other such overly emotional nonsense

That would be pretty ironic. Wanting your team to "have balls", yet being afraid of dropping underperforming players.

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On 9/25/2016 at 6:37 PM, Tomo said:

Mourinho has benched Rooney within two months but didn't bench Ivan in two and a half years.

Maybe he actually is better than the alternatives, frightening thought but hey.

Would only confirm the utter lack of vision of those in charge and the horrible management of the squad. Rarely seen such an obvious liability in a top team. Along with his sidekick Stimpy Cahill.

Edit: Bellerin wasn't a better player than Debuchy when he started playing. But he surprised and started to develop rapidly after getting regular game time. We'll never see that at Chelsea because young, raw players never get that chance. It doesn't always work of course but that's part of the game.

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3 hours ago, Darogba said:

I don't really buy this rubbish about Roman keeping a player in the team because he's a favourite of his. The only thing he cares about is results and I seriously doubt he'd encourage a player who's costing us a place in the champions league and therefore money to be allowed to keep playing simply because he likes him. The managers have a free reign on who they pick. 

Why do you think Torres played over and over and over again? You think the managers saw something in him? Or do you consider it more likely that there was pressure from Roman to make it work? I believe the latter. 

Whose choice do you think it was to employ 'out with the old, in with the new' and ensure that Courtois would be our starting goalkeeper, regardless of the fact Cech still performed better? It wasn't the managers buddy.

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3 hours ago, Darogba said:

I don't really buy this rubbish about Roman keeping a player in the team because he's a favourite of his. The only thing he cares about is results and I seriously doubt he'd encourage a player who's costing us a place in the champions league and therefore money to be allowed to keep playing simply because he likes him. The managers have a free reign on who they pick. 

Either there is no meritocracy, or the managers are hopeless at picking lineups. Either way it's no good

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2 hours ago, Leif said:

Why do you think Torres played over and over and over again? You think the managers saw something in him? Or do you consider it more likely that there was pressure from Roman to make it work? I believe the latter. 

Whose choice do you think it was to employ 'out with the old, in with the new' and ensure that Courtois would be our starting goalkeeper, regardless of the fact Cech still performed better? It wasn't the managers buddy.

But Torres was different because we had spent that huge money and wanted him to work. Ivanovic is old and past it so I really don't see the point in the board destroying their relationship with a manager just to see him play. Both situations are completely different. 

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On 9/26/2016 at 8:14 PM, Leif said:

Why do you think Torres played over and over and over again? You think the managers saw something in him? Or do you consider it more likely that there was pressure from Roman to make it work? I believe the latter. 

Whose choice do you think it was to employ 'out with the old, in with the new' and ensure that Courtois would be our starting goalkeeper, regardless of the fact Cech still performed better? It wasn't the managers buddy.

You are forgetting that Courtois was in brilliant form when the decision was made and he'd just established himself as the most promising goalkeeper in the world in Atletico. Majority of the people agreed with the decision, Cech wasn't performing better and was in decline.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/branislav-ivanovic-says-doesnt-mind-8978770

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“I think that the status of players cannot be concluded on the basis of an unplayed 90 minutes. Today’s football means that every day you have to fight and prove yourself."

And what about a conclusion based on a very, very, very bad year without being benched?

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This guy has been a starter for so long and been playing at a high level for a long time. He's been poor lately, but let's not forget how good he has been for us in the past.

On his current form, I wonder whether he could've done more to keep playing at a high level. As players age they lose mobility, so they have to work harder and sometimes also drop weight to keep the fat ratio lower than usual - seen players do that which kept them playing for a very long time.

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  • 3 weeks later...

I'm actually hopeful that he can be a sturdy back up to Dave as the RCB.  It may suit him.  Not fast enough to be a RB, can't cross.  Not really tall enough to be a CB (for the way he plays), so RCB in this back 3, may be okay for him.  Injuries will happen, need to have dependable cover.

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Look. Theres been many times since he's been with us Ive shouted his praises. Jes been full of that fighting spirit that I always loved in a player. But even if you was his biggest fan you've got to agree that the team / this new system just isn't right for him.

Mot for a CB but now way on earth is he a soddin WB. So with the football head and defensive master that Conte is how the fuck can he think of putting him in as one? I'm at a loss. I know we are stucj for WB replacements IF Moses/Alonso cant make it but thats scraping the barrel surely. :et alone Pedro in defence

 

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