Graham Potter Thread

[Costa19 858]

55 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Rumours of Luis Enrique....

Would he be any good?

Where? Twitter is quiet, couldnt find anything on there except fans wishing for him to come in. 

[Strike 7,217]

1 hour ago, Alabama said:

Rumours of Luis Enrique....

Would he be any good?

His Spain team in the last Euros was really good. They were comfortably the better side in the semifinal vs Italy but ended up losing on penalties

[Alabama 1,992]

14 minutes ago, Costa19 said:

Where? Twitter is quiet, couldnt find anything on there except fans wishing for him to come in. 

Still rumours but will dig it out soon....  

[gdlk 272]

Hes still coach of Chelsea?? Look at United how much coaches they have changed and finally got good one and started playing decent football. 

[Superblue 6,370]

5 hours ago, Strike said:

Contradicting info in the press today. Matt Law saying Leeds and Dortmund games are do or die for Potter

Guardian saying Potter has time regardless of results in the next two. 

It's easy to say he'll be given more time and patience, but you get the distinct impression that this won't just simmer for long with Chelsea fans and the longer this run lasts and Potter stays in a job, that frustration and anger will eventually move beyond him and over to the board. That then changes the whole complexion of this scenario in my opinion.

To be honest just losing to Leeds will send it there I think, but lose the next two, at home, and I think the crowd will turn beyond Potter and that suddenly cranks the pressure up on the ownership. For example, it wouldn't be a good look at all for them if there starts to be noticeable chants and calls for Roman Abramovich whilst they're sat in the stands at one of these next two.

[Reddish-Blue 2,347]

6 minutes ago, Superblue said:

It's easy to say he'll be given more time and patience, but you get the distinct impression that this won't just simmer for long with Chelsea fans and the longer this run lasts and Potter stays in a job, that frustration and anger will eventually move beyond him and over to the board. That then changes the whole complexion of this scenario in my opinion.

To be honest just losing to Leeds will send it there I think, but lose the next two, at home, and I think the crowd will turn beyond Potter and that suddenly cranks the pressure up on the ownership. For example, it wouldn't be a good look at all for them if there starts to be noticeable chants and calls for Roman Abramovich whilst they're sat in the stands at one of these next two.

I would have thought the pathetic loss to Southampton at home would have been enough to push the trigger

I'm interested to see whether the players actually turn up against Leeds/Dortmund and save Potter or whether they continue to jog around the pitch with zero intent to actually score a goal. 

[Superblue 6,370]

21 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

I would have thought the pathetic loss to Southampton at home would have been enough to push the trigger

I'm interested to see whether the players actually turn up against Leeds/Dortmund and save Potter or whether they continue to jog around the pitch with zero intent to actually score a goal. 

I think that game was probably the tipping point for most people willing to give Potter some time.

It certainly was for me because it was such a backwards step. At least against West Ham and Dortmund there were signs that some pieces of attacking play were developing and some decent chances created and it felt that there was at least some progress but the last two games have completely killed that, and we can't forever keep taking a step forward, then 2 or 3 back.

With the Spurs loss on top of this now, I think things could get toxic within the Bridge if we don't beat Leeds, who like Spurs are just a thoroughly disliked rival.

Ultimately though, I'd much rather see us go and win the next two regardless of whether that creates a stay of execution. My biggest concern is if this form continues much longer we'll find ourselves inching closer to a relegation scrap, but if we can get a couple of results to stabilise, my preference would actually to be just to stick with Potter until the end of the season and move him on then and have the time to properly plan then for an appointment.

[lucio 5,418]

24 minutes ago, Superblue said:

I think that game was probably the tipping point for most people willing to give Potter some time.

It certainly was for me because it was such a backwards step. At least against West Ham and Dortmund there were signs that some pieces of attacking play were developing and some decent chances created and it felt that there was at least some progress but the last two games have completely killed that, and we can't forever keep taking a step forward, then 2 or 3 back.

With the Spurs loss on top of this now, I think things could get toxic within the Bridge if we don't beat Leeds, who like Spurs are just a thoroughly disliked rival.

Ultimately though, I'd much rather see us go and win the next two regardless of whether that creates a stay of execution. My biggest concern is if this form continues much longer we'll find ourselves inching closer to a relegation scrap, but if we can get a couple of results to stabilise, my preference would actually to be just to stick with Potter until the end of the season and move him on then and have the time to properly plan then for an appointment.

Better to get rid now and appoint a caretaker until the summer surely. Just someone who can motivate them at least 

[Superblue 6,370]

1 minute ago, lucio said:

Better to get rid now and appoint a caretaker until the summer surely. Just someone who can motivate them at least 

But realistically who is going to take the job on until the end of the season in a caretaker capacity? There isn't a "go-to" option like Roman had a couple of times with Hiddink and we no longer have a realistic in house option either like we had in previous times with Di Matteo, or even Zola if the club had sacked Sarri when he was struggling. 

Besides one or two, the whole staff came in with Potter.

That's why I'd much prefer these decisions to be made in the summer without the backdrop of panic or pressure, but in order for that to happen, we have to pick a couple of results up over the next couple of games. 

[Cosmin 2,484]

The only realistic objective that we have for the rest of the season is to not get relegated. As crazy as that sounds, I honestly feel a bit scared. We are not favourites to win against anyone in the league at this point. If you think otherwise, remember the game against Southampton. Also, based on the reports coming out in the media, it seems that some of the players are 100% to leave in the summer. The likes of Ziyech, Azpi, Chalobah, Aubameyang, Pulisic will probably be on their way. So why play them?

I mean, I'm ok with Azpi as I am sure that he would do anything for this club. Maybe Trev is ok to be played too. But the others shouldn't be even near to the starting 11. This is where I cannot understand what Potter's trying to do. Show some balls and be consistent with your decision making, this is your responsibility! Axe all of those who won't be here come August. 

On the other hand, I have this weird feeling that he will get sacked and then the info will come out in the media: the board forced him to play specific players so their market value doesn't decrease. That wouldn't surprise me at all and it would be a very very worrying sign for us as a club.

Edited February 28, 2023 by Cosmin

[NikkiCFC 7,950]

So by Law he is gone if we don't eliminate Dortmund. 

I really hope we do. Ofc don't expect us to go all the way but it would be nice distraction for the rest of the season. Second leg against Dortmund is March 7th. QF second leg is 18/19 April. So we would at least have something to think about, be excited and hope for 6 more weeks. Even in first leg it was clear we are way better side and who knows in QF we could potentially get another very average side like Milan, Inter, Benfica. Players will at least show up for CL.

[NikkiCFC 7,950]

1 hour ago, Cosmin said:

 

On the other hand, I have this weird feeling that he will get sacked and then the info will come out in the media: the board forced him to play specific players so their market value doesn't decrease. That wouldn't surprise me at all and it would be a very very worrying sign for us as a club.

Don't think it's true about players but I believe club told Potter to play 4231 or some sort of offensive setup. Potter in Brighton played 3atb like Tuchel but dropped it here. And I actually support this. 

[cosmicway 1,323]

11 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Hats off to Potter for negotiating that. Maybe he's a mastermind after all.

Amazing.
Well, I could ask for compensation from a company if I was sacked and it was n't my fault but the result of some external problems but if it was because of me failing to do the job they would n't pay me my tickets home.

Edited February 28, 2023 by cosmicway

[Vegetable 830]

5 hours ago, gdlk said:

Hes still coach of Chelsea?? Look at United how much coaches they have changed and finally got good one and started playing decent football. 

Meanwhile people at Chelsea are putting Arsenal as their role-model.

That's something I cannot understand since I heard "buh ArRtReTa!" stuff. We were way above Arsenal level to begin with, had totally different set of issues, Artreta has completely different background than Potter and it's not like Mikel made Arsenal some kind of stable, solid serial winners. As things stand, it took them 5 years to win shit. Nothing, zero, nada.

So wtf kind of reference point is Artreta? Boehly and Potter want to ruin the elite team and suffer for years just to have a 3/4 of season when we do halfway decent? Sometimes it's hard not to think they are seriously mistaking Chelsea for Brighton.

[Vegetable 830]

29 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Amazing.
Well, I could ask for compensation from a company if I was sacked and it was n't my fault but the result of some external problems but if it was because of me failing to do the job they would n't pay me my tickets home.

Boehly said multiple times that player's contracts are in large part dependent on performance and achievements. Wonder if Potters is alike, or he just slapped 50 million on him just for having a privilage of this manager coming to Chelsea. If so, I'd take the cash and run if I was GP, zero regrets. 

Edited February 28, 2023 by Vegetable

[NikkiCFC 7,950]

With 50m he doesn't have to work again. Can go with his tent around the world. 

[Antonio8 736]

Potter listen...

3421:

azpi/thiago/badia

james/enzo/zakaria/chilwell

havertz/felix

fofana

 

 

 

 

[cosmicway 1,323]

44 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Boehly said multiple times that player's contracts are in large part dependent on performance and achievements. Wonder if Potters is alike, or he just slapped 50 million on him just for having a privilage of this manager coming to Chelsea. If so, I'd take the cash and run if I was GP, zero regrets. 

If Arteta is some kind of exception what does that prove ?