Graham Potter Thread

[Vytis33 1,261]

[Vegetable 830]

22 minutes ago, Vytis33 said:

 

[TheHulk 2,401]

We do but we had a much better coach at the time.

[Vegetable 830]

I'd be surprised if Potter had suddenly thrown himself into this scuffle, yet have to admit, that random and pure shithousery in form of random coaching staff member deciding out of the blue, for absolutely zero reason, to take down the opposition player with a cheeky tackle deserves some love.

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

2 hours ago, TheHulk said:

We do but we had a much better coach at the time.

All our best CL runs happened when we changed managers during the season:

Grant - final 

RDM - title 

Tuchel - title 

Hiddink - probably title if ref didn't fucked us 

So history is on Potters side. 

[DH1988 1,346]

2 hours ago, Vytis33 said:

Scenes like this just make me miss the team compromised of JT, Lamps, Essien, Ballack, Obi, Drogba etc not even Stoke had the stones to try that nonsense. 

[Thor 2,688]

16 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

"mid-table" mindset? How many mid table teams spend 600m in 2 windows? Since when did been a top 4 also become a god given right? Some of the poster on here are clearly the new ere "entitled fuckers" this forum has changed so much over the years... Moan moan moan! Problem is your constantly moaning about the thing you moaned for in the first place. 

Exactly right. Go check videos on Youtube, and people are already calling Felix and Mudryk flops. It is hilarious. This forum is on that level. I remember seeing Auba knock in a goal - and it was - "See what having a proper 9 does". 3 weeks later - apparently he is done, and the writing was on the wall, what a terrible transfer. People flip flop like crazy on here. 

Go start building a house with timber, then be told half way through, you can actually use sandstone and it is far better - and you to be expected to be up to the same stage as you were before in a matter of minutes. Takes time; two steps forward, three steps back, before we finally take off. 

Mudryk, Enzo, Badiashille, Felix and Maduake have all looked brilliant to me in patches. Even Dortmund game where people complained Mudryk was trying too hard - he created some beautiful link up play and chances. Same with Felix. Got into all the right places but finishing let him down. We know he can given his goal at West Ham - but just wasn't his day. Maduake was fantastic for me on debut. Badiashille has been a wall, and Enzo has slotted in amazingly into EPL. 

 

Chelsea "fans" are spoilt silly. Spend $600 mil and they want success by the form of everyone rolling over and dying against us. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

7 hours ago, Thor said:

Exactly right. Go check videos on Youtube, and people are already calling Felix and Mudryk flops. It is hilarious. This forum is on that level. I remember seeing Auba knock in a goal - and it was - "See what having a proper 9 does". 3 weeks later - apparently he is done, and the writing was on the wall, what a terrible transfer. People flip flop like crazy on here. 

Go start building a house with timber, then be told half way through, you can actually use sandstone and it is far better - and you to be expected to be up to the same stage as you were before in a matter of minutes. Takes time; two steps forward, three steps back, before we finally take off. 

Mudryk, Enzo, Badiashille, Felix and Maduake have all looked brilliant to me in patches. Even Dortmund game where people complained Mudryk was trying too hard - he created some beautiful link up play and chances. Same with Felix. Got into all the right places but finishing let him down. We know he can given his goal at West Ham - but just wasn't his day. Maduake was fantastic for me on debut. Badiashille has been a wall, and Enzo has slotted in amazingly into EPL. 

 

Chelsea "fans" are spoilt silly. Spend $600 mil and they want success by the form of everyone rolling over and dying against us. 

Brilliant post, all the replies you will get from this is, "we won't get anywhere with a mid-table manager" now! I for one would like to go the place where elite managers grow on trees and start out elite, please send me the details. I always thought an elite manager became elite, for what he does at clubs over a period of time not 6 months 3 months 2 weeks or instantly like some in here think it works. Pep and klopp examples, but wait! Hold up! Wait a minute! "Yes they didn't start well at all!!!! But you could tell what they was trying to do" yet no one actually said that at the time, all they said is they were flopping!!! Now all of a sudden to find there agenda, they could miraculous see what they was trying to do!!!!! Full of shit!!!

[lucio 5,418]

21 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Brilliant post, all the replies you will get from this is, "we won't get anywhere with a mid-table manager" now! I for one would like to go the place where elite managers grow on trees and start out elite, please send me the details. I always thought an elite manager became elite, for what he does at clubs over a period of time not 6 months 3 months 2 weeks or instantly like some in here think it works. Pep and klopp examples, but wait! Hold up! Wait a minute! "Yes they didn't start well at all!!!! But you could tell what they was trying to do" yet no one actually said that at the time, all they said is they were flopping!!! Now all of a sudden to find there agenda, they could miraculous see what they was trying to do!!!!! Full of shit!!!

You don't normally give a mid table manager a job at a top team on the off chance he becomes an elite manager. The odds of potter getting to the top were always slim, nothing he achieved before joining Chelsea suggested otherwise.

Klopp got to two finals and was playing good attacking football so yes some people did see the potential at the time. And he had a track record with Dortmund so it was worth being patient with him. Doing nothing at Brighton doesn't afford you the same luxury 

Edited February 17, 2023 by lucio

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

28 minutes ago, lucio said:

You don't normally give a mid table manager a job at a top team on the off chance he becomes an elite manager. The odds of potter getting to the top were always slim, nothing he achieved before joining Chelsea suggested otherwise.

Klopp got to two finals and was playing good attacking football so yes some people did see the potential at the time. And he had a track record with Dortmund so it was worth being patient with him. Doing nothing at Brighton doesn't afford you the same luxury 

Having a track record in a 2 league tema is no more impressive than what potter did at Brighton, just because a manager comes from a "mid table" doesn't make him a mid table manager, infact look at what Brighton are doing now that 95% down to potter, he built them up over 3 years and they are now above us playing better than us, this bullshit elite players argument is tragic, if he can get mid table players playing then there is no reason what so ever he can't get elite players playing either. 

[lucio 5,418]

4 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Having a track record in a 2 league tema is no more impressive than what potter did at Brighton, just because a manager comes from a "mid table" doesn't make him a mid table manager, infact look at what Brighton are doing now that 95% down to potter, he built them up over 3 years and they are now above us playing better than us, this bullshit elite players argument is tragic, if he can get mid table players playing then there is no reason what so ever he can't get elite players playing either. 

Klopp winning the bundesliga over Bayern Munich and taking Dortmund the champions League final is no more impressive than barely finishing 9th with Brighton? Is that really what you are trying to say there?

[lucio 5,418]

8 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Having a track record in a 2 league tema is no more impressive than what potter did at Brighton, just because a manager comes from a "mid table" doesn't make him a mid table manager, infact look at what Brighton are doing now that 95% down to potter, he built them up over 3 years and they are now above us playing better than us, this bullshit elite players argument is tragic, if he can get mid table players playing then there is no reason what so ever he can't get elite players playing either. 

Is there an example in recent premier league history of a mid table manager joining a top team and doing well. It seems like they are usually out of their depth. Moyes at UTd and Santo at spurs. There is also a reason why English managers have never won their own premier league, because they suck ass