Chelsea Transfers

[Stats 7,135]

3 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Literally no logical person gives a shit about how good Lukaku was against grandpa league. When you have scrubs like Immobile, Muriel, and Birardi scoring for fun it is hard to take anything he did seriously at Inter.

I watched him at the Euros he is literally the same player when he left United. 
 

Anyway we have signed a lot of bust strikers over the years, my body can take another one.

So basically because he scored all those goals for Inter in a 'grandpa' league, where they beat Juventus to the title for first time in 10 years or so, you have worked out that he is on the same level he still was when he left United? Take the tinted glasses off honestly.

I also watched Belgium at the Euros. He scored 4 goals or so right and I think generally his performance was good bar that Italy game. I also saw Kane and Mbappe in the Euros and they were poor almost every game. On that note, let's assume Harry Kane is not a top striker then. Or it proves Mbappe is not a top player because he plays in Ligue 1 and was poor in a few games at Euros.

It is not logical. Anyway, if he joins which seems is likely, hopefully you eat your words.

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

33 minutes ago, Stats said:

It is not logical. Anyway, if he joins which seems is likely, hopefully you eat your words.

Sorry bruv

But if as likely he does end up here, I will be greatly disappointed to say the least, I don't reckon him, don't like him at all.

The coming season will be depressing watching Chelsea with him up top.

[Strike 7,474]

I would continue with Havertz as false 9 and sign a cheaper alternative than spend this money on Lukaku.

But it is hilarious how many are not acknowledging that Lukaku is a level above any striker we have and any striker in the market except Kane and Haaland.

 

[Tomo 21,751]

45 minutes ago, Strike said:

I would continue with Havertz as false 9 and sign a cheaper alternative than spend this money on Lukaku.

But it is hilarious how many are not acknowledging that Lukaku is a level above any striker we have and any striker in the market except Kane and Haaland.

 

Agreed.

I don't want Lukaku here one bit but people are starting to go well too far with this now.

[Stats 7,135]

58 minutes ago, Hermione said:

The club is such short sighted, I highly doubt they saw Dortmund don't want to sell and said but next year we have no chance anyways, the truth is that Abramovic and the club live in the present time, they want to achieve things now, not wait another season to continue building on our success but here and now, that's actually fine, since it means they are ambitions, but on the other hand they are taking a massive gamble with Lukaku who may or may not deliver, instead of waiting for the winning ticket in Haaland.

What makes Haaland a winning ticket and not Lukaku? Batshuayi was at Dortmund and scored for fun. Werner too. Haller... It is a very offensive league where attackers flourish. Same way Lukaku is a gamble, Haaland is a gamble. That is naive to say that Lukaku is a risk but Haaland is not. Lukaku actually has experience of playing in the PL and yes some people will say he is a flat-track bully, however his goal record in the PL is impressive. Haaland has never played in the PL before and will also find the PL a total different ball game.

Also regarding the club living in the present time, if that was the case we would have been in for Varane, yet we are targeting Kounde.

[Nero 1,865]

120 million for 28 years old Lukaku? 

Edited August 4, 2021 by Patrick Bamford

[Nero 1,865]

Good point

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

5 hours ago, Clockwork said:

I watched him at the Euros he is literally the same player when he left United.

Of course he is. That is why United weren't too fussed when he left and why, despite posturing to keep his value high, Inter aren't too bothered now either.

I believe that Rom is the same player he was when I wrote him off as a Chelsea prospect in 2011. I had endless discussions at the time with people claiming he was young and that his touch would improve. I said then, and believe just as strongly now, that players' innate qualities become fixed and permanent way before the age of 19. Experience and training can teach a player how to make the most of what he has but what he has, his basic talent level, isn't going anywhere at that age.

In the winter of 2011 I said that Rom would make a career for himself because some of his attributes are outstanding but that he should not be at Chelsea. I claimed that any manager of a top level club finding himself with Rom as his first choice striker would soon be looking for an upgrade. So I think it has been and so I think it will be with TT next summer if we sign Rom now. The Belgian will score goals for sure but he will leave everyone feeling that we need more up top.

If Rom wants to return it'll be because he feels Inter's less than 100% commitment and because he likes the jingle of the proposed pay packet. It won't be anything to do with him feeling that he has 'unfinished business' with Chelsea. It's far more likely that someone at Chelsea has unfinished business with him.

Edited August 4, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

4 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Remember how long it took for us to move on from Torres and sign a high profile striker like Costa?

Prime Diego is who I'd like us to sign. Who should we look at to find those qualities?

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

3 hours ago, Stats said:

I also saw Kane and Mbappe in the Euros and they were poor almost every game.

I agree about Mbappe. Looked very worrying indeed. The talent was there but the footballer wasn't. Overplaying and complaining summed him up.

[coolhead23 1,147]

14 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Of course he is. That is why United weren't too fussed when he left and why, despite posturing to keep his value high, Inter aren't too bothered now either.

I believe that Rom is the same player he was when I wrote him off as a Chelsea prospect in 2011. I had endless discussions at the time with people claiming he was young and that his touch would improve. I said then, and believe just as strongly now, that players' innate qualities become fixed and permanent way before the age of 19. Experience and training can teach a player how to make the most of what he has but what he has, his basic talent level, isn't going anywhere at that age.

In the winter of 2011 I said that Rom would make a career for himself because some of his attributes are outstanding but that he should not be at Chelsea. I claimed that any manager of a top level club finding himself with Rom as his first choice striker would soon be looking for an upgrade. So I think it has been and so I think it will be with TT next summer if we sign Rom now. The Belgian will score goals for sure but he will leave everyone feeling that we need more up top.

If Rom wants to return it'll be because he feels Inter's less than 100% commitment and because he likes the jingle of the proposed pay packet. It won't be anything to do with him feeling that he has 'unfinished business' with Chelsea. It's far more likely that someone at Chelsea has unfinished business with him.

Well put. I feel Lukaku would jump on this because this will be his mostly last big payout and I doubt if any other top team is coming for him other than us. 

I hope really hope that he performs ... the issue is that we have been crying out loud when Werner has been missing goals, with Lukaku coming in we might have 2. Yes he might score more goals than Werner (still hopefully though) but as you rightly pointed out it will leave us wanting more and we go into the same loop. 

[Special Juan 28,088]

7 hours ago, King Kante said:

 

 

Oh, no! Juan is upset about people talking bad about signing a donkey* he likes for €130m. 

We had all better watch out! He sounds really big and scary typing away on his keyboard calling people names and trying to psycho analyse them. 

* In football, especially in the United Kingdom, a player who is considered unskilful is often dubbed a "donkey",^[35] and the term has a similar connotation in poker

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_references_to_donkeys

 

Much appreciated😘

[Special Juan 28,088]

7 hours ago, King Kante said:

Lukaku's first touch is pretty poor, thus I have evidence for the reference. Juan's only interactions with people on here is through odd posts here and there and he has no idea of what they're like in real life. 

I'm not really interested what you are like in real life, sorry if this upsets you.

[Jype 6,398]

3 hours ago, Hermione said:

The club is such short sighted, I highly doubt they saw Dortmund don't want to sell and said but next year we have no chance anyways, the truth is that Abramovic and the club live in the present time, they want to achieve things now, not wait another season to continue building on our success but here and now, that's actually fine, since it means they are ambitions, but on the other hand they are taking a massive gamble with Lukaku who may or may not deliver, instead of waiting for the winning ticket in Haaland.

There's many things the board can be called but short sighted is not really one of them.

Last night I wrote about how out of character this Lukaku signing seemed for them, because they almost always go for the players in age bracket 21-25 instead of players at the peak of their careers. In fact I did a check on the last 7-8 years worth of transfer windows and came up with a conclusion that really only Ziyech, David Luiz (mk2), Fabregas and Pedro were big money players signed at the prime of their careers, and none of those were even close to being the club's record signing. Sure there have also been older players like Giroud etc. being brought in as squad players for lower fees, but generally speaking the policy of the club is to always go for players who are still developing and have more re-sale value in case they're ever sold. Even now the squad is mostly built on these kind of younger players, so signing one player at the peak of their powers is not a problem in the slightest unless you've already decided Lukaku will be a shit signing and can do nothing right in your eyes, like you obviously have.

[Jase 43,479]

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2 hours ago, Patrick Bamford said:

Good point

Competing for the title?

Given Lukaku is supposedly all great now and the amount of money we're about to throw at Inter to sign him, he better win us the Premier League title. Otherwise, it's all for naught! 

[Strike 7,474]

10 minutes ago, Jas said:

Competing for the title?

Given Lukaku is supposedly all great now and the amount of money we're about to throw at Inter to sign him, he better win us the Premier League title. Otherwise, it's all for naught! 

Guardiola is a league winning machine. Will be tough to win a league where we need 90+ points.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

SSN Germany said Inter might not budge except for a crazy offer of 130m+