Chelsea Transfers

[Pizy 18,504]

Without a world class striker coming in, seeing Tammy in that disgusting red shirt would be hard to watch. I’m sure our club understand that well. Sending him to Arse and bringing in some random dude like the striker from Stuttgart would cause huge uproar.

[Jase 43,479]

17 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

Reports this morning that Tammy is on his way to Arsenal for a loan with £40m buy clause - Dailymail, so take from that what you will...

I believe they quoted from The Sun, which was the original source of the rumor.

[Tomo 21,733]

2 hours ago, Styl1994 said:

Arsenal before people laugh they have a decent young core and no European football so they could have a outside chance this season.

I think some people are forgetting that we made the top four on the last day of the season thanks to Tottenham.

Yes, largely due to a meltdown from a manager who's long gone. Factor in TT's time we're second.

As for Arsenal this no Europe thing is massively exaggerated, it "worked" for us because we already had a title winning squad who had a fluke bad season due to a variety of unprecedented vectors, Arsenal don't have that luxury.

Free midweeks training Rob Holding, Ben White and Hector Bellerin is no different to free midweeks training James Tarkowski, Ben Mee and Matt Lowton and that's before we mention Arteta tax.

[LAM09 6,824]

Slightly disappointing to see a number of youngsters move on, but they are choosing the easier option, so be it.

 

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

3 hours ago, Jas said:

I believe they quoted from The Sun, which was the original source of the rumor.

Lol when dailyfail  quotes the sun about a Tammy Abraham rumour you know it’s been a slow day in the office 

Edited July 21, 2021 by Magic Lamps

[Tomo 21,733]

3 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Slightly disappointing to see a number of youngsters move on, but they are choosing the easier option, so be it.

 

Sancho and to an extent Pogba have set a precedent unfortunately.

Aslong as it was a game time thing instead of a club issue we should be able to get them back if they become the business all be it at a cost.

[Pizy 18,504]

The reports say Bate isn’t even going directly into Leeds’ first team but rather their youth team. Slightly strange that he wouldn’t just wait it out here and see what happened next summer. But I guess Bielsa has given him a more clear vision of his path the the first team than we could.

[Jase 43,479]

17 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Lol when dailyfail  quotes the sun about a Tammy Abraham rumour you know it’s been a slow day in the office 

Yes, till the point another outlet like Goal published this yesterday...

https://www.goal.com/en/news/why-is-christian-pulisic-called-captain-america-usmnt-stars/15i2b4qqmton1kznplkm7uez4

[LAM09 6,824]

20 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Sancho and to an extent Pogba have set a precedent unfortunately.

Aslong as it was a game time thing instead of a club issue we should be able to get them back if they become the business all be it at a cost.

If our youngsters just had a look at the players that have broken through in the last few years, they'd see there is an opportunity. 

If the latter does come to fruition for any of them, we'll still effectively be held to ransom.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,538]

Is there a need for Varane? The negotiations with ManU has stalled. 

[Tomo 21,733]

10 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

If our youngsters just had a look at the players that have broken through in the last few years, they'd see there is an opportunity. 

If the latter does come to fruition for any of them, we'll still effectively be held to ransom.

Rightly or wrongly they may think it was a Lampard/transfer ban thing, that plus we had a lot more holes in our squad then compared to now.

Now if Tuchel brings someone through that will (hopefully) change the mindset of other players when they end up in this position.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,538]

They may look at the average age of our club and their contract length and understand that if this core of players gel into a cohesive unit, it is going to be quite a few years to break through.  

[LAM09 6,824]

16 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Rightly or wrongly they may think it was a Lampard/transfer ban thing, that plus we had a lot more holes in our squad then compared to now.

Now if Tuchel brings someone through that will (hopefully) change the mindset of other players when they end up in this position.

Just seems like a cop-out IMO. 

Hope Broja is the first to show them otherwise.

[Superblue 6,372]

There's talk of Tuchel possibly integrating Broja and Sterling into the first team squad next season so if that were to happen it hopefully continues to show that there is a pathway to the first team, but still ultimately very few players will break through at Chelsea in the coming years and it's no different to the other top teams around us. 

A few players have had chances in recent times under Lampard but so far ultimately only two have fully taken that chance in Mount and James, so it's not like some abnormal influx of players. Yes the likes of Tammy and Tomori had opportunities too but their futures won't be here.

Therefore if you look back over the past 5 or 6 seasons it isn't hugely different to Christensen, Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi breaking through previous. 

Realistically if you managed to get one first team regular and one, maybe two squad player(s) through from the academy every 3 years at the top level where Chelsea are positioned, that's a pretty good achievement.

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

20 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

There's talk of Tuchel possibly integrating Broja and Sterling into the first team squad next season so if that were to happen it hopefully continues to show that there is a pathway to the first team, but still ultimately very few players will break through at Chelsea in the coming years and it's no different to the other top teams around us. 

A few players have had chances in recent times under Lampard but so far ultimately only two have fully taken that chance in Mount and James, so it's not like some abnormal influx of players. Yes the likes of Tammy and Tomori had opportunities too but their futures won't be here.

Therefore if you look back over the past 5 or 6 seasons it isn't hugely different to Christensen, Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi breaking through previous. 

Realistically if you managed to get one first team regular and one, maybe two squad player(s) through from the academy every 3 years at the top level where Chelsea are positioned, that's a pretty good achievement.

What’s the latest on Sterling? I remember he was injured for a year, but seemed to be in and out of the U23 squad last season?

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

What’s the latest on Sterling? I remember he was injured for a year, but seemed to be in and out of the U23 squad last season?

Not sure, but from what I've read Tuchel had him training with the first team group quite a few times last season and really likes him. From what I understand he's back fit and is currently with the pre season group in Ireland.

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Not sure, but from what I've read Tuchel had him training with the first team group quite a few times last season and really likes him. From what I understand he's back fit and is currently with the pre season group in Ireland.

Strange. He gets a look but not Livarmento?

[Superblue 6,372]

5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Strange. He gets a look but not Livarmento?

Sterling was highly rated himself before the injuries he's had.

He is that bit older than Livramento at 21 and more developed physically, whilst he has also had the experience of playing out on loan.

I just think it's probably a case of someone being further down the line. 

There are very, very few cases of an 18 year old breaking into the first team of one of the top European clubs with no previous experience out on loan.