Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 6 hours ago, robsblubot said: Similar in a way that he play in multiple attacking positions, but I'd say Nkunku is more of a ST/LW while Alvarez is, like you said, more of a passer and operates better in a CAM, so ST/CAM/RW. Still see them all complementary to some degree and he could be backup for Cole as well. Still unsure about Nkunku's fitness to entirely honest. I no longer try to second guess the transfer market as fees are completely nuts tho. If we're looking for more of an attacking mid/winger type, surely the guy to go after is Eze at Palace. Alvarez is a good overall player but spending that much is crazy, he would end up like Havertz here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: We have a good chance with Alvarez because: 1) he's only 100k/pw 2) can promise starting spot which in City is not gonna happen 3) Pep have this philosophy when player says I want to leave he just says ok 4) Enzo best buddy If Alvarez is determined to leave City then I think he may prefer a Champions League destination like PSG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 On 05/06/2024 at 22:33, Mário César said: 80M pounds its too much but I prefer give this for him that 100M pounds for oimhen, for example Osimhen's release clause is €130m (£111m as the pound is bit up versus the euro since March, when it was as high as £113m) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 On 05/06/2024 at 23:53, whats happening said: no one is dumb enough to buy sterling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Alvarez over Osimhen all day Alvarez would be a superb bit of business robsblubot, Pizy and kexik 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,224 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 (edited) On 06/06/2024 at 00:00, Mário César said: £70-75m or fuck off and I really do not want to sell him but £70-75m is a lot £50m? fuck off he is a vital player and his stats back that up his all-round stats are off the charts when taken as a holistic package Edited June 7, 2024 by Vesper chelsea_4_eva and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Tosin is now confirmed by the club Costa19 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 After watching a lot of clips of Omari, I am convinced he can play and do well on the LEFT wing as well plus at AMF where he assisted from the left side or scored a goal with his right foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Costa19 858 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 (edited) Im not hot at all on Alvarez. Maybe for £30-40m maximum. If Jackson played for City, people would beg the club to pay £80-100m if we had the chance. Jackson is better and younger. Edited June 7, 2024 by Costa19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,282 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Costa19 said: Im not hot at all on Alvarez. Maybe for £30-40m maximum. If Jackson played for City, people would beg the club to pay £80-100m if we had the chance. Jackson is better and younger. what world you live for think that city will allow alvarez come to Chelsea for 40M pounds? Lol Edited June 7, 2024 by Mário César Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Tosin for me can be the next Azpi or Cahill sort of defensive signing. Those two were bought for absolute peanuts and turned out to be some of the best pound for pound signings we’ve ever made. But in this case it’s FREE. As for Alvarez, I’m getting more and more convinced that he can be the guy we’re looking for. He has been “pretty good” at City where he has forced to be more of a supporting cast player but just a short time ago when he was at River Plate he looked like he was going to become a genuine £100m player. He could seriously be primed to explode into what his potential showed in the same way we saw with Cole Palmer. Maybe just needs to leave City and be given the faith.confidence to become “the man” instead of just another cog in the Guardiola machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 14 hours ago, TheHulk said: If PSG have half a brain (questionable) they would take that €300m (£256m) or so they saved with Mbappe (they do not have to pay the massive loyalty payment plus his huge salary) and buy Osimhen and Leão (Leão now has a crazy £148m release clause but AC Milan will take 5 payments over 5 years and I wager they would come down a bit as no other huge club will drop or can drop that type of money) or swap out Leão for Khvicha Kvaratskhelia or swap out Lautaro Martínez for Osimhen the only other top 35 valued players who are actually available that PSG doesnt already have are Wirtz Musiala Bruno Guimarães Julián Álvarez (perhaps available) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Alvarez for the right money / salary no brainer imo. Hard to say what the right price is though. I think it is pretty normal that when you're stuck playing second fiddle to Haaland your form / confidence / motivation drops off. I'd go after him or Sesko to compete with NJ and open up the option to play one of them as a LW in a 4-3-3, similar to how we had Malouda or Anelka playing out there when really they were more of a forward and a clinical finisher. Those were the golden days... robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Alvarez is decent, no doubt. 80m would be expensive but not outrageous for a player who has won it all and is still to reach his prime. Definitely more justified than what we paid for caicedo, fofana, mudryk etc. would he be the ultimate solution to our striker woes and bag us 20 PL goals per season? Probably not. But does he add something we don’t already have? Definitely. personally, I prefer strong, tall, athletic strikers in 1 striker systems. But marescas football requires someone who has excellent technique, close control, an eye for spaces and who can win a 1 on 1. Alvarez offers all of this. there are plenty of good reasons why this can happen. The argument that does not count is the ‚playing second fiddle to Haaland‘ IMO. He has played more PL games and minutes than Haaland last season and I can see this trend continuing as Haaland will continue to pick up smaller injuries with how he is targeted by CBs and pep looking for alternatives within games where he looks out of the loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Why are Chelsea so open to selling Conor Gallagher? https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5542698/2024/06/05/Chelsea-gallagher-villa-tottenham/ The transfer window is reopening in a matter of days, which can only mean one thing: Conor Gallagher’s future at Chelsea is once again a hot topic. Earlier this week, The Athletic reported that Aston Villa have opened preliminary talks with Chelsea and Gallagher’s representatives over a possible summer move, with their manager Unai Emery a huge admirer of the 24-year-old and keen to bolster his midfield options ahead of a Champions League campaign in 2024-25. It may come as a surprise that Chelsea are open to selling the Cobham academy graduate, who frequently captained Mauricio Pochettino’s team on the pitch last season and led the entire first-team squad in minutes played across all competitions. But this is a complex situation with several factors at play and a number of outcomes are still possible. Here is a dive into some of the most important questions surrounding Gallagher’s future. Why are Chelsea open to selling Gallagher? There are two elements to this: Gallagher the player and Gallagher the asset. One just had the best season of his career at Chelsea, entrenching himself in the affections of their match-going supporters, and consolidating his place in the England squad. The other now has 12 months left to run on his contract and a growing list of suitors across the Premier League. One of the reasons why Gallagher’s deal has run down to this point is that, for much of the past two years, Chelsea’s sporting leadership and ownership have not been convinced that he should be integral to their long-term midfield plans. It is why they were prepared to accept a £45million ($57.5m) offer from Everton in January last year and why West Ham and Tottenham were emboldened to express serious interest the following summer. It is also why Chelsea have spent north of £300million on midfielders in the past 18 months, headlined by the nine-figure transfer fees paid for Enzo Fernandez and Moises Caicedo. Gallagher did everything he could to challenge that thinking with an excellent 2023-24 season, improving significantly in many areas of his game. But if Chelsea do not believe that progress merits a new contract on significantly improved terms, this summer is their last realistic opportunity to secure real value in a sale. That value would need to be in excess of £50million for a Chelsea starter and current England international who only turned 24 in February and still appears to be improving. Do they need to sell Gallagher, or other home-grown players, to comply with financial rules? Chelsea officials insist they expect the club to comply with the Premier League’s profit and sustainability rules (PSR) for 2023-24 without making further player sales before the accounting deadline of June 30, though there is considerable scepticism among many football finance analysts outside Stamford Bridge as to how they can hope to achieve that. A controversial £76.5million deal to sell the two hotels outside the stadium to another subsidiary company of Chelsea’s ownership group was decisive in the club squeezing under the £105m allowable loss limit for PSR in 2022-23. That transaction is still awaiting sign-off from the Premier League but does underline that Clearlake Capital and Todd Boehly are prepared to get creative to ensure future PSR compliance. Chelsea’s qualification for next season’s Conference League also means they are once again subject to UEFA’s club licensing and financial sustainability regulations (FSR), which only allow losses up to €80million (£68.5m; $86m) for the 2024-25 monitoring period. There is at least no such pressure to sell players by June 30 on this front, since UEFA count from January 1 to December 31 instead. Whatever the true extent of the PSR and FSR pressures, Chelsea know selling players — and particularly cashing in on academy graduates, who count as pure profit on the books — is the only realistic route to creating the wiggle room needed for more significant recruitment this summer. It does not necessarily need to be Gallagher who leaves. Chelsea are already guaranteed £28million through the sale of Lewis Hall to Newcastle after his season on loan there, while the proceeds of Mason Mount’s £55m transfer to Manchester United last summer will go on this year’s accounts. They also banked between £11m and £14m from add-ons in clauses of loan and transfer deals last season. GO DEEPER Chelsea's Armando Broja: 'Euro 2024 is an opportunity to show the world what I can achieve' They could generate £35million by selling Ian Maatsen, while Armando Broja and Trevoh Chalobah could raise more than £50m combined. While not a Cobham graduate, Omari Hutchinson could also command a sizeable fee after a highly successful loan spell helping Ipswich Town win Premier League promotion. How does all of this affect Gallagher’s thinking about his future? Gallagher is in an extremely strong position. His stock has never been higher and he can expect a large pay rise in his next contract, whether that’s at Chelsea or elsewhere. He is a well-documented Chelsea fan and his preference remains what it has always been: to pursue a long and successful career with his boyhood club. He has not agitated to leave at any point and cannot be sold against his wishes. One of the few things he can’t control is whether he is offered a new deal that reflects his own sense of value to the team and to the club. GO DEEPER Enzo Maresca's backroom staff: The six moving with him from Leicester to Chelsea But if Villa or another interested club present an offer that satisfies Chelsea, Gallagher will have a real decision to make. Will he play as often, or as well, for incoming head coach Enzo Maresca as he did last season for Pochettino in what is likely to be a different tactical system? There is no guarantee next season will be as individually rewarding as 2023-24 proved to be. Within that context, going into the final year of his current deal at Stamford Bridge would be a big risk for Gallagher to take — and he would do so with no assurance that a new contract offer from Chelsea would be forthcoming before he hits free agency in the summer of 2025. As with any player, ultimately he needs to do what he feels is best for his career. Transfer speculation also presents an unwelcome distraction as Gallagher seeks to fully focus on helping England at Euro 2024, which kicks off next Friday, though he has so far done an admirable job of not allowing uncertainty over his future to affect his performances in a Chelsea shirt. Would Chelsea consider selling him to Tottenham? For much of the Roman Abramovich era, it seemed inconceivable that any high-profile player could move between Chelsea and fellow Londoners Tottenham, in either direction. The mutual rivalry and animosity went well beyond the fans in the stands, reaching all the way into the boardrooms of both clubs. Clearlake and Boehly are far more business-minded. Spurs held serious talks with Chelsea about signing Gallagher last summer, but an unbridgeable gap in their respective valuations meant things went no further. It is likely that any offer meeting the asking price will be considered on its merits, rather than rejected out of hand due to the identity of the bidders. The more intriguing variable is how Gallagher would view the possibility of joining Tottenham. Many of his fellow Chelsea supporters will be hoping he is not put in that position. Is a new contract at Chelsea still a possibility? Absolutely. This is not a Mount situation, where bitterness and acrimony took hold on all sides and a parting began to feel inevitable months before it finally happened. Chelsea’s co-sporting directors Laurence Stewart and Paul Winstanley have maintained a dialogue with Gallagher’s representatives throughout the past 18 months and there is no sense of bad blood. His unerring professionalism is greatly appreciated and he is a popular figure around the Cobham training ground as well as at Stamford Bridge. If he is sold this summer, it will not be cheaply, and if offers do not materialise at the level Chelsea would like, it would not be a shock if talks over a new contract began to gather pace. As has become the norm for Gallagher since the start of 2023, nothing about his future is set in stone. GO DEEPER Why Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, Newcastle and more want Benjamin Sesko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 6 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Alvarez is decent, no doubt. 80m would be expensive but not outrageous for a player who has won it all and is still to reach his prime. Definitely more justified than what we paid for caicedo, fofana, mudryk etc. would he be the ultimate solution to our striker woes and bag us 20 PL goals per season? Probably not. But does he add something we don’t already have? Definitely. personally, I prefer strong, tall, athletic strikers in 1 striker systems. But marescas football requires someone who has excellent technique, close control, an eye for spaces and who can win a 1 on 1. Alvarez offers all of this. there are plenty of good reasons why this can happen. The argument that does not count is the ‚playing second fiddle to Haaland‘ IMO. He has played more PL games and minutes than Haaland last season and I can see this trend continuing as Haaland will continue to pick up smaller injuries with how he is targeted by CBs and pep looking for alternatives within games where he looks out of the loop. If Pep leaves next summer, I predict Håland does as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Just now, Vesper said: If Pep leaves next summer, I predict Håland does as well. One more reason the second fiddle argument does not hold water. Also the fact that City probably know they will be in the market for a striker next summer regardless will not entice them to put themselves in a position that will have them shopping for two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,418 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 19 minutes ago, Vesper said: Why are Chelsea so open to selling Conor Gallagher? https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5542698/2024/06/05/Chelsea-gallagher-villa-tottenham/ The transfer window is reopening in a matter of days, which can only mean one thing: Conor Gallagher’s future at Chelsea is once again a hot topic. Earlier this week, The Athletic reported that Aston Villa have opened preliminary talks with Chelsea and Gallagher’s representatives over a possible summer move, with their manager Unai Emery a huge admirer of the 24-year-old and keen to bolster his midfield options ahead of a Champions League campaign in 2024-25. It may come as a surprise that Chelsea are open to selling the Cobham academy graduate, who frequently captained Mauricio Pochettino’s team on the pitch last season and led the entire first-team squad in minutes played across all competitions. But this is a complex situation with several factors at play and a number of outcomes are still possible. Here is a dive into some of the most important questions surrounding Gallagher’s future. Why are Chelsea open to selling Gallagher? There are two elements to this: Gallagher the player and Gallagher the asset. One just had the best season of his career at Chelsea, entrenching himself in the affections of their match-going supporters, and consolidating his place in the England squad. The other now has 12 months left to run on his contract and a growing list of suitors across the Premier League. One of the reasons why Gallagher’s deal has run down to this point is that, for much of the past two years, Chelsea’s sporting leadership and ownership have not been convinced that he should be integral to their long-term midfield plans. It is why they were prepared to accept a £45million ($57.5m) offer from Everton in January last year and why West Ham and Tottenham were emboldened to express serious interest the following summer. It is also why Chelsea have spent north of £300million on midfielders in the past 18 months, headlined by the nine-figure transfer fees paid for Enzo Fernandez and Moises Caicedo. Gallagher did everything he could to challenge that thinking with an excellent 2023-24 season, improving significantly in many areas of his game. But if Chelsea do not believe that progress merits a new contract on significantly improved terms, this summer is their last realistic opportunity to secure real value in a sale. That value would need to be in excess of £50million for a Chelsea starter and current England international who only turned 24 in February and still appears to be improving. Do they need to sell Gallagher, or other home-grown players, to comply with financial rules? Chelsea officials insist they expect the club to comply with the Premier League’s profit and sustainability rules (PSR) for 2023-24 without making further player sales before the accounting deadline of June 30, though there is considerable scepticism among many football finance analysts outside Stamford Bridge as to how they can hope to achieve that. A controversial £76.5million deal to sell the two hotels outside the stadium to another subsidiary company of Chelsea’s ownership group was decisive in the club squeezing under the £105m allowable loss limit for PSR in 2022-23. That transaction is still awaiting sign-off from the Premier League but does underline that Clearlake Capital and Todd Boehly are prepared to get creative to ensure future PSR compliance. Chelsea’s qualification for next season’s Conference League also means they are once again subject to UEFA’s club licensing and financial sustainability regulations (FSR), which only allow losses up to €80million (£68.5m; $86m) for the 2024-25 monitoring period. There is at least no such pressure to sell players by June 30 on this front, since UEFA count from January 1 to December 31 instead. Whatever the true extent of the PSR and FSR pressures, Chelsea know selling players — and particularly cashing in on academy graduates, who count as pure profit on the books — is the only realistic route to creating the wiggle room needed for more significant recruitment this summer. It does not necessarily need to be Gallagher who leaves. Chelsea are already guaranteed £28million through the sale of Lewis Hall to Newcastle after his season on loan there, while the proceeds of Mason Mount’s £55m transfer to Manchester United last summer will go on this year’s accounts. They also banked between £11m and £14m from add-ons in clauses of loan and transfer deals last season. GO DEEPER Chelsea's Armando Broja: 'Euro 2024 is an opportunity to show the world what I can achieve' They could generate £35million by selling Ian Maatsen, while Armando Broja and Trevoh Chalobah could raise more than £50m combined. While not a Cobham graduate, Omari Hutchinson could also command a sizeable fee after a highly successful loan spell helping Ipswich Town win Premier League promotion. How does all of this affect Gallagher’s thinking about his future? Gallagher is in an extremely strong position. His stock has never been higher and he can expect a large pay rise in his next contract, whether that’s at Chelsea or elsewhere. He is a well-documented Chelsea fan and his preference remains what it has always been: to pursue a long and successful career with his boyhood club. He has not agitated to leave at any point and cannot be sold against his wishes. One of the few things he can’t control is whether he is offered a new deal that reflects his own sense of value to the team and to the club. GO DEEPER Enzo Maresca's backroom staff: The six moving with him from Leicester to Chelsea But if Villa or another interested club present an offer that satisfies Chelsea, Gallagher will have a real decision to make. Will he play as often, or as well, for incoming head coach Enzo Maresca as he did last season for Pochettino in what is likely to be a different tactical system? There is no guarantee next season will be as individually rewarding as 2023-24 proved to be. Within that context, going into the final year of his current deal at Stamford Bridge would be a big risk for Gallagher to take — and he would do so with no assurance that a new contract offer from Chelsea would be forthcoming before he hits free agency in the summer of 2025. As with any player, ultimately he needs to do what he feels is best for his career. Transfer speculation also presents an unwelcome distraction as Gallagher seeks to fully focus on helping England at Euro 2024, which kicks off next Friday, though he has so far done an admirable job of not allowing uncertainty over his future to affect his performances in a Chelsea shirt. Would Chelsea consider selling him to Tottenham? For much of the Roman Abramovich era, it seemed inconceivable that any high-profile player could move between Chelsea and fellow Londoners Tottenham, in either direction. The mutual rivalry and animosity went well beyond the fans in the stands, reaching all the way into the boardrooms of both clubs. Clearlake and Boehly are far more business-minded. Spurs held serious talks with Chelsea about signing Gallagher last summer, but an unbridgeable gap in their respective valuations meant things went no further. It is likely that any offer meeting the asking price will be considered on its merits, rather than rejected out of hand due to the identity of the bidders. The more intriguing variable is how Gallagher would view the possibility of joining Tottenham. Many of his fellow Chelsea supporters will be hoping he is not put in that position. Is a new contract at Chelsea still a possibility? Absolutely. This is not a Mount situation, where bitterness and acrimony took hold on all sides and a parting began to feel inevitable months before it finally happened. Chelsea’s co-sporting directors Laurence Stewart and Paul Winstanley have maintained a dialogue with Gallagher’s representatives throughout the past 18 months and there is no sense of bad blood. His unerring professionalism is greatly appreciated and he is a popular figure around the Cobham training ground as well as at Stamford Bridge. If he is sold this summer, it will not be cheaply, and if offers do not materialise at the level Chelsea would like, it would not be a shock if talks over a new contract began to gather pace. As has become the norm for Gallagher since the start of 2023, nothing about his future is set in stone. GO DEEPER Why Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, Newcastle and more want Benjamin Sesko If no one has said it I really appreciate your article gathering. Going to search for all these stories is tedious. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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