Pizy 19,250 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Medical was apparently done yesterday, media work was apparently done this morning. Where’s the Lavia announcement? We need some good news to wash away all the depressing stuff today, Chelsea! 😭😭😭 Also need him ready for West Ham on Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 What a bad day with no signings and 2 players Injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) Btw, unless the system we used in preseason was purely for preseason, I don't think we need to stress that much about losing James, Poch was building in a 3-2-5 attack system where only one fullback went forward and the other stayed back with the CBs. Having one very attacking / good fullback was critical but not both sides required it. So, if Chilly is fit probably the 3-2-5 has Chilly going forward and Malo sits deep. If Chilly is out, probably Malo becomes the attacking forward and Cucu or Maatsen sit deep with the CBs. The biggest loss is that we've lost our Captain and that bit of leadership on the field. The system can easily cope and thrive without him. This is a big upgrade from Tuchel/Potter era in itself. Edited August 17, 2023 by Mhsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Yeah was about to add that Poch's system isn't entirely dependent on wingbacks as we saw under Tuchel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Yeah was about to add that Poch's system isn't entirely dependent on wingbacks as we saw under Tuchel. I would certainly hope that the 3 at the back system we used against Liverpool was a “needs must” situation because Poch didn’t have the midfielders he needed yet. If Caicedo and Lavia are both in by Sunday I assume we immediately revert back to a back for with 3 midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Btw, unless the system we used in preseason was purely for preseason, I don't think we need to stress that much about losing James, Poch was building in a 3-2-5 attack system where only one fullback went forward and the other stayed back with the CBs. Having one very attacking / good fullback was critical but not both sides required it. So, if Chilly is fit probably the 3-2-5 has Chilly going forward and Malo sits deep. If Chilly is out, probably Malo becomes the attacking forward and Cucu or Maatsen sit deep with the CBs. In that system it would be much better with Chilwell going up to have Disasi, Silva and Colwill sitting deep. Or when RB is up James/Gusto to have Silva, Badiashile and Colwill sitting in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: ffs NO Nottingham Forest want £50 million for Johnson now..............they can fuck right off xPetrCechx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nero said: We should buy El-Nesyri instead. Underrated striker A number of players from the Moroccan NT deserve more praise. 1 hour ago, Hamilton said: Didn’t Maehle just switched club? Yep. He joined Wolfsburg less than a week ago. Edited August 17, 2023 by LAM09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 DH1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, TheHulk said: The new Caicedo Saga® in the making - the eternal medical 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, TheHulk said: The new Caicedo Saga® in the making - the eternal medical 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 541 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Pizy said: If Johnson and Barcola are valued at around the same 45-50m and we opt for Johnson it’ll stain our otherwise fantastic summer business. Every seen him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 What happened to that guy from Vigo Veiga he was sure about PSG afterwards and was linked with Chelsea, apparently he remains in Spain . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, milka said: What happened to that guy from Vigo Veiga he was sure about PSG afterwards and was linked with Chelsea, apparently he remains in Spain . He’s more of a #8 so we have no need at all for him anymore. Last I saw Napoli were trying hard to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethingSomething 17 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Barcola is promising but look at his legs, he will break in PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mhsc said: Thank god we have Malo. Extremely controversial question: would you consider offloading Reece James over his injury problems? He is our Captain and amazing when fit, but are these problems ever going to go away? Is he worth 250k a week when he plays so rarely? Does he have a realistic future playing RB and being fit for even half of a season? This was the same thing when asked of Kante this summer (ok Ngolo was older yes) and look how many said bin Kante. So wonder if it will be same approach if this persists for another year or two with Reece? Doubtful but never know on here. Maybe his new contract is incentive based but again, I don’t know I am sure his basic is around 200k easily. Plus 7 or 8 year deal to consider. Edited August 17, 2023 by OneMoSalah Vegetable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,356 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Reading through the last few pages: - Olise staying at Palace, can’t be mad at it, would have been a bargain to be honest considering price hikes. Grade 3 hammy tear though. - RJ injury, horrific. Wouldn’t ever consider letting him go but my God he needs to stop whatever fitness regime he’s doing. I half think that Poch’s preseason was too much for the players who were so undeniably unfit during the season, not blaming Poch at all, just the length of which our players remained in poor shape. - Johnson from Forest, just yikes, please no, unless I’ve read it wrong and they are paying us £50m to take him. He is another Dan James, just less speed. - Noni and Sterling I feel are sufficient right now considering what we have on loan and the other areas we need to focus on. - Gutted about Hall, I sure hope there is a hefty sell on or buyback clause, I understand he grew up supporting Newcastle but we had him on a ridiculous contract, to let a prospect go for £28m? Short-term’ism thinking in my book. bigbluewillie and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, LAM09 said: A number of players from the Moroccan NT deserve more praise. Yep. He joined Wolfsburg less than a week ago. En neysiri is absolute pants. Watched him bottle 4 100% chances yesterday. Worse than Lukaku I don’t really think we need Barcola or Johnson. We have more than enough wingers and none of these is better than Noni really. Olise I would have understood bc he is creative but Johnson is a one dimensional pace merchant . Barcola I have not seen as much of. only winger I would consider is one who is really good at wingback and could compensate RJ’s loss at least in offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: This was the same thing when asked of Kante this summer (ok Ngolo was older yes) and look how many said bin Kante. So wonder if it will be same approach if this persists for another year or two with Reece? Doubtful but never know on here. Maybe his new contract is incentive based but again, I don’t know I am sure his basic is around 200k easily. Plus 7 or 8 year deal to consider. I think he got his contract before we wisened up (the PW+LS era) so it is likely 250k basic and more on top of that for good performance. He got the deal Mason would have got if he hadn't been a little bitch. My brain says that Malo is a wonderful player and he if he has a good season, bearing in mind we need income, if we get lucky and Reece ends the season on a few months of fitness we should sell him if we can get a big offer for him. My heart tells me we can't lose Captain James after losing so many others from the academy, the little bit of real Chels we have left. OneMoSalah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Extremely quiet day across the league. I figured a bunch of PL clubs would be wanting to get players registered in time for their second matches this weekend after having a look at their squads in the first match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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