Gundalf 806 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Artandur said: I'm going mad with all these youth signings. SORT THE FUCKING FIRST TEAM. what are they thinking, it's insane to me First team signings are just more complicated. Just look at Liverpool - they still havent got a DM yet, even tho Lavia loves them. Youngsters are way easier to sign bc u dont have to face bitchy clubs like Brighton or Southampton. Nero, Fernando and mkh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Just now, NikkiCFC said: What about loan rules? 8 players but youth doesn't count? Yep, youngers can be loaned infinitely Fernando and NikkiCFC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I don't mind the owners buying youth players. Haven't they said that the funds for them is seperate to the funds for the first team? For me, that isn't really a major issue. For instance, they got Santos at a price that now looks great value. For me, what they're doing with them is what people where doing when they 'owned' half of Teves all those years ago. I suspect it'll be shut down soon enough. As for Caicedo, £80m was already way over the top for him. So, I am not losing too much sleep about not going higher than that for him. The kid only has one decent year in the PL and that was in the cluster feck of a year last year was with the WC. Obviously, we need another CM, maybe two, but I am firmly on board with not signing him at the quoted prices. SinineUltra, The Rising Sun and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I tell you what will happen: tomorrow we will announce Sanchez, place our final bid for Caicedo on sunday for 95 plus 5 that will be rejected, then we walk away, buy Adams in the meantime (which is a target in addition to Caicedo) and go back to Caicedo on deadline day just like Enzo. You heard it here first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,985 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 As if Palace will accept that for their best remaining player… Why are we even bidding for a seriously injured player anyways, man. Someone who we may not see for months and even then he’ll need another long road to maybe regain his former level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cosmicway 1,333 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Vytis33 said: Auto rejected at 90M? Is it 100 they want ? If he is so good and not another Cucurella then it seems we ate the crab and we don't want to eat the juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Feels like most of our signings come with a disclaimer: "For his age and experience in pro football,..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Pizy said: Wonder if us buying this young Brazilian striker and sending him to Strasbourg means that we’ve moved for him instead of Elye Wahi who was supposedly going there. Could be that Angelo is sticking around the first team shrenshah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Pizy said: As if Palace will accept that for their best remaining player… Why are we even bidding for a seriously injured player anyways, man. Someone who we may not see for months and even then he’ll need another long road to maybe regain his former level. There’s a release clause anyway - 35mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post! Thor 2,745 Posted August 5, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted August 5, 2023 Washington looks unreal. Great buy. We'll be a powerhouse in 3 or 4 years with these buys. Everyone here too short sighted. But that is the majority of the world. DDA, Gundalf, SinineUltra and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) Oh great let's watch City, United, and Arsenal collect all the silverware for years and then hope they are also not a powerhouse by then. man... 🙄 Edited August 5, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,513 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, robsblubot said: Oh great let's watch City, United, and Arsenal collect the silverware AND assume they are also not a powerhouse by then. man... 🙄 City was going to collect silverware anyway. They already have Dias, Laporte, Ake, Stones and then they go and get one of the best young defenders in world football... Not to mention they have the alien upfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: City was going to collect silverware anyway. They already have Dias, Laporte, Ake, Stones and then they go and get one of the best young defenders in world football... Not to mention they have the alien upfront. I disagree the players you listed is the reason they have a competitive advantage. I also think it's VERY wrong to assume young players can develop without support of more senior players. They have to be competitive from the get go. The last thing you want in 3-4 years is a bunch of players who are used to lose. If they don't jump ship much earlier than that. The better one, the competitive types won't be sitting around waiting for competitive teammates to arrive. Edited August 5, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,513 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, robsblubot said: I disagree the players you listed is the reason they have a competitive advantage. I also think it's VERY wrong to assume young players can develop without support of more senior players. They have to be competitive from the get go. The least you want in 3-4 years is a bunch of players who are use to lose. If they don't jump ship much earlier than that. I agree but by the sounds of last season and all the rumors going around, it was the senior players kicking up a fuss and not really putting in the effort required on the pitch (other than Thiago Silva). Senior players are important but you also need the right senior players in the team that lead from the front. We really do miss guys like JT, Lamps in the side. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,459 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, robsblubot said: I disagree the players you listed is the reason they have a competitive advantage. I also think it's VERY wrong to assume young players can develop without support of more senior players. They have to be competitive from the get go. The last thing you want in 3-4 years is a bunch of players who are used to lose. If they don't jump ship much earlier than that. The better one, the competitive types won't be sitting around waiting for competitive teammates to arrive. I'm not against any of the youth signings we've made this window. There's a lot of merit in acquiring so much nascent talent (especially when Fifa & Uefa are still allowing it), especially as an investment., which can pay off one way or the other in the future. But yes, I agree it's naive to think that an entirely young squad is going to go places without quality experienced players to back them up. You only need to look at Wenger's Arsenal over the years. A factory of very talented youth players who went on to achieve plenty of glory after departing Arsenal robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said: I agree but by the sounds of last season and all the rumors going around, it was the senior players kicking up a fuss and not really putting in the effort required on the pitch (other than Thiago Silva). Senior players are important but you also need the right senior players in the team that lead from the front. We really do miss guys like JT, Lamps in the side. Well that was my concern earlier when we are selling everybody. One can assume it's just the way they are, but I think what I talked about earlier is exactly what happened to them. They felt frustrated at the club and left. It's hard to say it's more about them vs us, but the club sale and the newbie football club owners kinda suggest the "us" part has played a part. We know it's hard to find and attract leaders who can really make a difference on the pitch, but that's why they make the big bucks. I look at City and for every Foden, there is a Gundogan. That's the right balance. 58 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: I'm not against any of the youth signings we've made this window. There's a lot of merit in acquiring so much nascent talent (especially when Fifa & Uefa are still allowing it), especially as an investment., which can pay off one way or the other in the future. But yes, I agree it's naive to think that an entirely young squad is going to go places without quality experienced players to back them up. You only need to look at Wenger's Arsenal over the years. A factory of very talented youth players who went on to achieve plenty of glory after departing Arsenal Yeah me neither; I'm usually the one saying that you cannot attract a star because the star player is already done for playing for a big club. On the other hand there is a case of too much of a good thing. Good point on Arsenal too; that's exactly what I'm afraid of. Edited August 5, 2023 by robsblubot Blue Armour and Reddish-Blue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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