Strike 7,495 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Pizy said: RedCafe is in absolute meltdown. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Seriously, though, I wonder what the plan is if they do decide to walk away. If Mount sticks to his guns without wavering and absolutely refuses to sign a new contract in order to walk for free it does fuck us pretty hard. We may want to bleed them for £60m but the £50m they offered this morning is still better than £0 next summer. And that’s £50m of pure profit on the books. I'm with the board on this one. If Chelsea was ready to give him a 200k a week wage offer, then it makes sense to value him at 60+mil. There's no pressure to sell due to the Havertz deal going through (Saudi deals all go through post July 1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,495 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 7 hours ago, lucio said: He is not worth 60m under any circumstances. Workhorse The fact that United researched the market and came up with a 60m Mount bid as the way to spend their money, then it's a good sign. OhForAGreavsie and lucio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Strike said: Newcastle will try to sign Chiesa and Theo Hernandez after Sandro Tonali. They're quietly picking the market again. We should be after Chiesa as well...would easily be the best attacker at Chelsea alongside Nkunku. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,349 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Chiesa I’d of snapped at pre-injury, he was playing some great tenacious football. Strike, bigbluewillie and Vesper 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Pizy said: Think it was @Special Juan who mentioned Wirtz and Szoboslai yesterday as a replacement for Mount. We should absolutely try for one of those. If Poch wants his new version of prime Eriksen then Wirtz is perfect to play that role. If he wants an explosive attacker who can assist and score from midfield then we can reunite Nkunku with his Leipzig mate. I believe both have somewhat reasonable prices on their heads too. wasn't me Wirtz has not looked the same since his bad injury plus he will still be very expensive and Bayern have him in their targets eventually I waher he had one Bundesliga goal all year in 17 games (all post injury) I do rate Dominik Szoboszlai a lot along with (AMFs we are talking about), in order of valuation Bernardo Silva (will not come here though) James Maddison Dani Olmo Xavi Simons (PSG doing a buyback though) Mohammed Kudus Eberechi Eze and youth Eliesse Ben Seghir Désiré Doué Arda Güler Arsen Zakharyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, Vesper said: wasn't me Wirtz has not looked the same since his bad injury plus he will still be very expensive and Bayern have him in their targets eventually I waher he had one Bundesliga goal all year in 17 games (all post injury) I do rate Dominik Szoboszlai a lot along with (AMFs we are talking about), in order of valuation Bernardo Silva (will not come here though) James Maddison Dani Olmo Xavi Simons (PSG doing a buyback though) Mohammed Kudus Eberechi Eze and youth Eliesse Ben Seghir Désiré Doué Arda Güler Arsen Zakharyan Reminds me actually, there's been nothing about Arsen for a while now... any chance we can use our connection with Strasbourg to purchase him through there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, chelsea_4_eva said: , there's been nothing about Arsen for a while now... Yeah, I wonder why there is no news regarding European team not buying Russian player from Russian club… 🤔 YorkshireBlue and Vesper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) So I am guessing Mount will be staying/leaving on a free then? Why the fuck are we haggling for £3m and £7m in add ons? Just take the £55m and run jesus christ. If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. Edited June 24, 2023 by OneMoSalah bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. Or he will be dumped to Newcastle for 45. Window is long. Maybe it's not the worst idea to not reinforce direct rivals cheaply after all. I'm pretty sure had we tried to buy Mount, instead of selling, he wouldn't be offered to us for less than 90 by any club. Edited June 24, 2023 by Vegetable OhForAGreavsie and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. Dunno, you seem to find it extremely difficult to realise Todd isn't doing the transfer side anymore. Edited June 24, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Norfolkblue1961 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: So I am guessing Mount will be staying/leaving on a free then? Why the fuck are we haggling for £3m and £7m in add ons? Just take the £55m and run jesus christ. If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. I doubt the new ownership group let him walk on a free, will probably go to someone else on deadline day. Vegetable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Interested in this Mount business, I wonder what they want to discuss f2f. Feeling is maybe other clubs are willing to pay 65 and they know that concretely, but are trying to honour Masons wishes by getting him the move to Utd? Guess it depends how hard ball they and Mason are willing to get about what happens next, would Mason refuse a move to another big club and leave on a free or would he want to leave on good terms to maintain some kind of relationship with the club and fans? What happens to Mason if he does try that? Train alone for a season in his prime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Superblue 6,372 Posted June 24, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: So I am guessing Mount will be staying/leaving on a free then? Why the fuck are we haggling for £3m and £7m in add ons? Just take the £55m and run jesus christ. If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. The Mount and Havertz deals for me are critical of the long term way in which this club operates. Last summer we let players leave fairly cheap and easily seemingly without much negotiation (Lukaku loan, Werner, Gilmour, Alonso) whilst also getting our pants pulled down on a number of transfer negotiations such as Cucurella and Fofana (I'm personally a big fan of Fofana and I think he'll prove to be a very good player over the long term here but it doesn't change that we got drastically bid up by Leicester to bring him in). This summer it's imperative that we don't show ourselves as a soft touch in the transfer market. We've driven hard bargains with Mount and Havertz so far to sell on terms acceptable for us, not Arsenal and United. We've so far pushed a harder line with Inter on Lukaku. In the example of this Mount deal, if we just rolled over because United have briefed to the media it's their "last" offer, then we're going to struggle in the future. We'll show to buying clubs that we can be easily manipulated and bullied and we'll show to players that want to leave that we'll cave into the pressures. At present this offer is much closer to United's initial bid than it is Chelsea's initial valuation. I get there is risk attached due to his situation a year away from his contract being up, but the Mount deal could have much longer term ramifications for us if we get it wrong and are seen as being pushed around. The other acid test on the horizon will be if we are indeed interested in Caicedo, our negotiations with Brighton to buy him. Magic Lamps, Fernando, Vesper and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,284 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Superblue said: The Mount and Havertz deals for me are critical of the long term way in which this club operates. Last summer we let players leave fairly cheap and easily seemingly without much negotiation (Lukaku loan, Werner, Gilmour, Alonso) whilst also getting our pants pulled down on a number of transfer negotiations such as Cucurella and Fofana (I'm personally a big fan of Fofana and I think he'll prove to be a very good player over the long term here but it doesn't change that we got drastically bid up by Leicester to bring him in). This summer it's imperative that we don't show ourselves as a soft touch in the transfer market. We've driven hard bargains with Mount and Havertz so far to sell on terms acceptable for us, not Arsenal and United. We've so far pushed a harder line with Inter on Lukaku. In the example of this Mount deal, if we just rolled over because United have briefed to the media it's their "last" offer, then we're going to struggle in the future. We'll show to buying clubs that we can be easily manipulated and bullied and we'll show to players that want to leave that we'll cave into the pressures. At present this offer is much closer to United's initial bid than it is Chelsea's initial valuation. I get there is risk attached due to his situation a year away from his contract being up, but the Mount deal could have much longer term ramifications for us if we get it wrong and are seen as being pushed around. The other acid test on the horizon will be if we are indeed interested in Caicedo, our negotiations with Brighton to buy him. we have other people taking care of the negotiations. that's why there are different ones compared to last year this is what we missed last year Alabama and Norfolkblue1961 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: So I am guessing Mount will be staying/leaving on a free then? Why the fuck are we haggling for £3m and £7m in add ons? Just take the £55m and run jesus christ. If United pull out then we lose £55m next summer…. Not rocket science Todd. Todd does not negotiate transfers, regardless how the press like to use his name to simplify stories. Just like the following storing…. Although I hope our transfer team is doing this. Fernando, Vesper and Norfolkblue1961 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Koulibaly to Al Hilal ✅🔵 #CFC #Saudi Deal set to be announced with fee close to €23/24m. 🎥 @taggatsn https://t.co/xzV3xetGH3 — Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) Jun 24, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 No changes on Caicedo deal. Chelsea expected to bid after outgoing ane still feel in control of the situation. There’s no official negotiation ongoing yet. 🔵 #CFC Personal terms almost agreed. ⤵🇪🇨 https://t.co/Ro0qSpBUuE — Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) Jun 24, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Rumours of “agent change” for André Onana are wide of mark. His agent was and remains Albert Botines who’s taking care of negotiations 🇨🇲 Botines met with Manchester United earlier this week — Chelsea have asked about Onana two weeks ago. Inter want at least €50m plus add-ons. https://t.co/aC8gWP1FOX — Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) Jun 24, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,284 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Rumours of “agent change” for André Onana are wide of mark. His agent was and remains Albert Botines who’s taking care of negotiations 🇨🇲 Botines met with Manchester United earlier this week — Chelsea have asked about Onana two weeks ago. Inter want at least €50m plus add-ons. https://t.co/aC8gWP1FOX — Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) Jun 24, 2023 why we dont swap lukaku for onana? would be a good deal for both sides Im slighty worried because I wan't see kepa as number 1 for next season lets see what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Ben Jacobs and Fabrizio just keep repeated the same exact thing over and over and have done so for like a month. ‘Chelsea really want Caicedo, Caicedo himself wants Chelsea, but Chelsea haven’t bid yet.” Surely it’ll finally happen this coming week after we receive the Havertz, Kova, and Koulibaly/Ziyech/Mendy money? All of those deals seem to be in the medical & final paperwork phase so should be done this weekend. We wait any longer and other clubs could swoop in and turn his head with monster wages that our new regime is hesitant now to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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